RENTS!!! I NEED YOUR HELP!

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k rents so im talkign with ym cousin and he gets interested in trainspotting, and we start talkign about how drug related books/movies always have people get fucked over. and we came to a bump with trainspotting cause we couldnt remember all the characters. so rents if you could first give a list of the main characters who our attention is focussed on significantly at one point or another and than a list of how they get fucked over due to drugs. it doesnt have to be directly due to drugs, my biggest arguyment that the guy with the moustache gets fucked over during a drugbust, renton steals his money to start a new life that will kick his drug habbits. you get the point, so if you could do that for us it would be greatly appreciated

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oh, no, dont ask me.

Ewan McGregor .... Mark 'Rent-boy' Renton- kicks the heroin, fucks over Sickboy and Begbie
Ewen Bremner .... Daniel 'Spud' Murphy- nothing much happens to him
Jonny Lee Miller .... Simon David 'Sick Boy' Williamson- quite junk to become a pimp
Kevin McKidd .... Tommy MacKenzie- starts using, has a stroke, gets toxo-plasmosis and dies
Robert Carlyle .... Francis (Franco) Begbie- doesnt use
Kelly Macdonald .... Diane- doesnt use, only smokes a joint
Peter Mullan .... Swanney- heroin 'dealer', mother superior.

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if you want to exp. some real books about getting fucked by drugs- read William Burroughs' 'Junky' =. its an autobiographical account about his habit, from start to finish, with rehab and jail in between.

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Well, I have to mostly agree with Wes, but some people get fucked over a little bit more. And just cause I share the name of the protagonist of the movie, doesn't make me an expert, just to let you know, Knox. Thanks for thinking of me first though. Smile
So, building off of what Wes said:
Rents - He's on heroin, he's off, he's back on when the bairn (Trainspotting for 'baby' Smile Big) dies, at which point he's forced into theft, which ends up nearly sending him to jail. He goes through some withdrawal, needs to get back on drugs, ends up overdosing and nearly dies. He then cleans up and goes to London, where his friends track him down and fuck him out of his job. They drag him into a drug deal where he then fucks them over by taking the money, leaving 2 grand for Spud.
Spud - He's on drugs pretty much the entire time until he goes to prison for stealing. This is the primary place where he gets fucked by drugs. Then later, Rents screws him out of half his chunk of the drug dough. Oh, I'd also say he kinda gets stabbed in the back by Begbie when he goes to jail. Begbie badmouths him to his mother.
Sick Boy - Deserves anything he gets cause he'd fuck anybody over if it got him ahead. That being said, he kinda gets fucked by drugs in that it causes people to neglect the baby, which was his. From there, he gets fucked by Rents with the drug money.
Tommy - Gets fucked over huge by Rents, which doesn't happen in the book. First, Rents steals the sex video of him and his gf. This, and a few other things, causes her to go on a rampage and dump him. This causes Tommy to get depressed and interested in Heroin. He asks Rents to hook him up. Rents does for the right price, Tommy gets hooked and gets AIDS. His health's going down the shitter when he tries to coax his gf into dating again with a kitten. She rejects the kitten, the kitten makes him sick, and he dies. Pretty much all because of Rents. What bullshit.
Begbie - Other than the fact that everybody thinks he's a dangerous wanker, he doesn't really get fucked until the end. Well, he kinda gets fucked when he thinks this guy is a girl, but not really. Rents screws him over with the drug money at the end. It's kind of arguable that Rents his going to kick his drug habits at the end because, as he says, "There are final hits and final hits. Which was this to be?" The world my never know. Until Porno (Welsh's latest novel involving the gang) gets made into a movie.
Diane - *drooling* Kelly MacDonald *drooling* Anyway, she doesn't get fucked, except by Rents soon after they meet. *wink wink, nudge nudge*
Swanney - The only part where we kinda see he gets fucked is where his arms are so punctured that he has to inject in his dick. No fun there, kids. I suppose you could argue that he gets fucked when all his junkies stop using. No more income.

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thanks boys! maybe if its not too much trouble can you give a description of who each character is? we know sick boy, spud, and rents, but we cant match faces to the other names

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Tommy is the curly haired pale guy. The one that dies. Rents watches his porno of him and his girlfriend, etc...

Swanney is the old guy at their little junky-home. You know, the guy that's always at the counter. Supplying them and such.

Begbie is the crazy mufucka who's always fighting people and shit.

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Hey, quick note... please, please, please see the flick 'Dog Soldiers' if you like Mother Superior and Tommy in 'Trainspotting'... they star. It's on the ol' DVD format now, and it's a kick-arse werewolf flickety-flick with plenty of the ol' ultra-violence... way overlooked upon release, it's a real contender...
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Rents, or you can just read Porno and not have to wait for the movie, if it ever even gets made. I just finished it and fuckin loved it. Great book.

knox, Begbie is normal built guy with slicked back black hair and a full on mustach to go with it, but inside he's pure psychotic and he's carved out of wood so to speak. Hates herion, loves beer, cigarretes, and fighting.
Diane is smart and attractive, but young.
Swanney is older and completely bald and funny as hell.
Tommy, blond, blue eyed, attractive straight edge and in shape type. Goes downhill when his girl dumps him and ends up with HIV from doing skag with an infected needle

Also a good drug book, Mr. Nice by Howard Marks

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I just watched this movie. Now I want to barf and have an inexplicable craving for Gummi Worms.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fucko [/i]
[B]Rents, or you can just read Porno and not have to wait for the movie, if it ever even gets made. I just finished it and fuckin loved it. Great book.[/B][/QUOTE]
True enough. I really can't wait to get my hands on it, but, alas, I've got no moneys right now for that kind of thing.Sad Saving up for the copious amounts of alcohol I'll be consuming in Scotland. Smile Big They're at least thinking about making the movie, because I believe they have th same actor and most of the cast back to play their roles. I remember reading somewhere that it was going to be more difficult this time around because the director said the cast was "looking much better" than the last movie. The movie and book of Trainspotting were very different from each other, though, so I'd assume the same from the Porno adaptation, especially if they hire the same screenwriter (which I don't know if they've done/they'll do).

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yeah, Ewan is all pert, fresh and cleancut now, and Jonny Lee is all trendy with a Craig David beard.

*shudder*

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Yeah, Ewan just won't have the same look at all, but I suppose that's kind of a good thing, cause he's supposed to be off the skag now, right? I don't really know the whole premise of the thing other than that they get together to make some pornos. I guess it's time to read the book, eh?

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...a craig david beard...

ha!!

p.s. a pert ewan is still a mighty fine ewan.

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does anyone think rene zelwegger is attractive?

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sometimes. on the may in style cover, she looks terrible....

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i think she's an awfully unattractive woman. another talentless actress who's fallen into the hands of shameless promters. the viewing public are sheep.

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i wouldn't say she's talentless....i mean, everyone says she was good in chicago. although i've never seen it, so i can't say. she wasn't horrible in jerry maguire or bridget jones's diary...

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everyone says? everyone says? that's not reason to believe that she's actually a good actress. i saw it. she was ok. but, then again, any actress would have been ok. with respect to the other films, jm and bjd, she's playing essentially the same character. that's growth. *one hand clapping in a tibetan forest being chopped down by film critics*

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my point was that she sang and danced in chicago. which does take SOME talent...and if you disagree, please tune into american idol, star search, or any of the other talent shows on TV. and i'm not trying to extol the virtues of renee zellweger, by any stretch of the imagination, but i don't think she's talentless.

talentless i reserve for someone like elizabeth berklee (sorry will) who played both a school girl and a show girl. two divergent roles, yet she sucked the life out of them. i just saw her in some lifetime movie about a teacher who sleeps with her student, and she ruined that, too. so, my point is that even in light of "growth" a bad actress is still a bad actress.

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elizabeth berkely is a talentless waif, i agree. on a completely different scale than rz. i guess i've taken my hostility out on rene. yes, singing and dancing take talent, but not much!

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That was one of the most blatant hijacks I've ever seen. I wish we were still doing the high school awards thing so I could nomianate it.

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*still laughing* you can't catch me. ha ha ha

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i wouldn't call it blatant, janey. ewan mcgregor and renee zellweger are going to be in a movie together called "down with love." in this movie, ewan is pert, fresh and clean cut, as opposed to his role as renton in trainspotting.

someone kill me, i'm following and understanding framstedt's thought patterns...

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what time would you like to die, my queen? *laughing harder*

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sometime after memorial day...i've got some big plans for the long weekend.

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me too. i'm headed up to the cape o' cod for a bachelor party. whoa! look at hyannis. here comes da judge!

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oh.dear.god...please tell me you're not really going to hyannis....

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ahh, yes, i am. rented a house in west dennis and will be partying at some place called sundancers. afterwards, party at the kennedy compound. crashing it, of course. you? are you, darling moe, going to be in hyannis?

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i think i will be in hyannis port. we're debating going there, or to rehoboth, DE. DE is much closer, but HP was always a strong possibility.

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not to dissuade you, dearie, but hyannisport is an awfully tacky, touristy cheesy place. there's even a psychic. one summer we went to her because someone had hidden the swank magazine we brought to *ahem* warm the nights.

rehoboth sounds like it ought to be in the monster movie category.

whatever you do, have fun and drink insensibly.

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fram, i spent the majority of my childhood in HP. if you want to see tacky and touristy, check out wildwood, NJ.

the problem with rehoboth is there's nothing going on.

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sounds peaceful, rehoboth does. that is, until the dark ancient egyptian demi-god awakens and destroys everything in his wake.

truly sorry for you. i am. never really liked hyannisport, but we always drove through it on our way to cummaquid. there's a wrap joint on main street that really good though, i think they made something called the jaws with roast beef. yum.

wildwood. never been there. although i understand that tuffy and his ethnically revealing jeans are often seen walking with yentas young and old.

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Ok, I should really be sitting this one out and cramming like made for my Bio exam at 1230, but I gotta get in on the Cape Cod love. Though i won't be there this coming Memorial Day weekend, I've spent a coupla summer just down the road from Hyannis Port in Harwich Port. All I got to say is the Sundae School kicks complete ass.

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you went to Sundae School, were an eagle scout and want to go to scotland so bad you'll eat a ton of haggis! what did you do in sundae school?

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awww...rents, you can come to my beach house any time. fram's not invited, he can go hang out in ptown.

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i've never been in ptown before in my life, you gay bashing queen. at least you have a beach house. i have to rent.

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Never an Eagle Scout, Fram. You obviously didn't read the Flame Warriors thread when I told you to. At Sundae School, you just eat shitloads of tasty ice cream. The one in Hah-wich Po't, as we like to call it, is about a 10 min. walk from my great aunt's beach house. Yes, that's the same great aunt who wrote the book. So Moe, assuming it's alright with my aunt, we can either party at your house, or my aunt's, which is right on the beach. Either one I'm sure would be boss. Smile

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kidding about the eagle scout thing. what book did your great aunt write?

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i am not gay bashing!!!!

and rents, it would be hugo boss. Wink

(fram's still not invited)

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"does anyone think rene zelwegger is attractive?"

No sir, I agree with your little rant, too...

I loved Chicago, but it was thanks to Catherine Zeta Jones and Richard Gere, not Rene.. Blah. I mean, yeah she did okay and like Moe said, takes some talent, but come on, Catherine was sooooooooooooooooooo much better.

Although, I really liked Rene in the scene where Richard used her as a puppet, that was way cool.

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Fram, she wrote The Best Christmas Pageant Ever. It's a fairly well known book, though I've met plenty of people who've never heard of it. Too bad you're not invited the party or else I could show it to you. Smile

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disx, i think our agreement on this issue is owing to the lunar eclipse. my god. could we have more in common than thinking rene zellwegger sucks. hmmm.

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hey moe.

what was the reference to p town for then, huh?

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rents [/i]
[B]Fram, she wrote The Best Christmas Pageant Ever. It's a fairly well known book, though I've met plenty of people who've never heard of it. Too bad you're not invited the party or else I could show it to you. Smile [/B][/QUOTE]

i'll look for it. plenty of used bookstores on the cape.

by the way, i've crashed parties before, you know. i just need a little help, understand? *waves wad of sweaty bills under rents nose*

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"could we have more in common than thinking rene zellwegger sucks. hmmm."

Well, remember our little chat about Lucy?

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Welllllll...*swipes the cash* For a fellow level 2-er, I'll see what I can do.

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*taps nose twice with right forfinger*

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i'm saying YOU'RE gay, so YOU can go hang out in ptown.

i'm not saying anything derogatory about homosexuals, and am not bashing.

unless you're gay...but in that case, i'm just giving a suggestion. Wink

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so, you think i'm gay and you're bashing me? well, listen up sunshine, whether or not some guy pushes my stool in or not, you're bashing. face it. take responsibility for it. even if you say there's nothing wrong with it. jesus.

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how am i bashing?

and i don't think you're gay.

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i didn't think you were bashing and i am not gay. i just like stirring the pot, aclu girl.