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You sit outside the chapel on a BIG motorcycle and REV the engine repeatedly when the man asks about objections.

That's what you do. I know this.

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There's the upside. Whether I'm the guy at the altar, or the one that drunkenly objects to the union, I'll be looking damn good in a tux.

Exactly.

Very sorry about all of that though. Especially the roommate and best friend issues. That seems much sadder than missing out on a girl (however cool she may be).

I'm also sorry because I felt a lot of deja vu typing the soap opera joke which means I've probably said it before and I've probably said it to you. Luckily though, since you've been going through this type of shit for so long and survived, you're obviously the star of the show. And this ain't Lost so you're pretty much guaranteeing a happy ending.

I don't know what I'm talking about. I watched way too much tv today. But I'm probably right.

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Tonight I'm wounded.

Not the first time.

Not a thing.

I'll to sleep and tomorrow it'll be all better or forgotten which is almost as good.

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If you don't at least TRY to go for this girl, then you have no one to blame but yourself. She seems interested. You are interested. You can't let this guy get in the way of that. "Circumstance" be damned. If the guy was already jaded, well, you don't have any responsibility in the matter.

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Tuffy wrote:
You sit outside the chapel on a BIG motorcycle and REV the engine repeatedly when the man asks about objections.

That's what you do. I know this.

Now that's a sensible idea. That's going on a post it on my wall 'til the time comes.

I'm sorry you're wounded. I can't imagine what it takes to do that to you.

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Exactly.

Very sorry about all of that though. Especially the roommate and best friend issues. That seems much sadder than missing out on a girl (however cool she may be).

I'm also sorry because I felt a lot of deja vu typing the soap opera joke which means I've probably said it before and I've probably said it to you. Luckily though, since you've been going through this type of shit for so long and survived, you're obviously the star of the show. And this ain't Lost so you're pretty much guaranteeing a happy ending.

I don't know what I'm talking about. I watched way too much tv today. But I'm probably right.

It's just that I meet a lot of women (and the crowd does a giant jerk off motion). This girl stood out more than pretty much any other.

Yeah, it was probably me. I wonder what this novela of mine would be called. "Chino Perdido" maybe?

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Fano wrote:
If you don't at least TRY to go for this girl, then you have no one to blame but yourself. She seems interested. You are interested. You can't let this guy get in the way of that. "Circumstance" be damned. If the guy was already jaded, well, you don't have any responsibility in the matter.

This is true. I guess I'm just overwhelmed with the whole situation. A cigarette break isn't gonna cut it, and the next move would have to be tomorrow, bright and early. I just met this girl. I'm not emotionally invested in her enough to gear up for this on the fly.

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I'm in an Eminem mood, it's secondary school all over again.

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Lib. If that's how you truly feel, don't tell her about all this. It will just lead to her being disappointed that you let bullshit get in the way of what could be a wonderful thing.

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I don't think he's letting bullshit get in the way now that this has happened. Sometimes, the drama and the stress just aren't worth it. Maybe I'm too jaded now. I try to still tell people to go for the one they feel is special, but I've realized that it's easier to feel all the feels in those first few moments because the best part of a relationship is that first spark. It's hard to turn away from that. Basically, I say let the dust settle and move from there.

I've been having a hard time lately with Xander. I feel like since his diagnosis, even though I have told myself not to do so, I'm still letting him get away with more than I should be. Maybe he's just that stubborn kid who refuses to listen when he knows it's not okay, but it's getting frustrating. He throws food on the floor when he eats and I'd take the food away, but he needs to eat. He takes the soil from the potted plants and throws it on the carpet. It doesn't matter how many times I tell him it's not okay, he continues to do it, either while I'm distracted, or out of the room. He just gets into everything. He looks right at you and smiles while doing it too. I feel like I've exhausted all the methods. Distraction, having him pick up after himself, scolding, time out (which is laughable at his age), but nothing seems to work. Maybe I've been spoiled by how easily Jude moved past these phases.

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My Hisband is in Detroit with the show right now as you guys know. He said the stage manager came over the headsets last night and said EMS was in the balcony performing CPR on a woman. He also said he thought she was probably gone. Heart attack likely. They held the show for 20 minutes. And the show must go on! So sad.
And I have a sick mind and this morning he and I were talking right before the show and I was saying how disrespectful that is. "Um we have a body up here in the Balcony, but cue the lights". It really is true that the show must go on. When 911 happened while we were in Atlanta, we did get that night off amazingly. But the next night we had a bob threat at the theatre before the show and they cleared out the whole theatre out and ran dogs through there and then yes, the show went on.
That poor women went to a Sho with someone and died before she even got to see it. And the poor person who went with her. Very sad.

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Lib. If that's how you truly feel, don't tell her about all this. It will just lead to her being disappointed that you let bullshit get in the way of what could be a wonderful thing.

Oh, I wasn't going to let anyone know anything. This is between me and this friend of mine. What's come to a mutual understanding is that our friend that the girl's currently "with," as dick as it sounds, doesn't stand a chance. My friend said this to me, so now there's a touch of maliciousness to it all that's distasteful. I mean, I want this girl because I feel a true connection. I think he just likes her enough to go for the challenge. I can't tell him how I feel about this as it is, because 1. he's already dismissed the other guy's feelings (his roomate's feelings), justifying it by the fact that he already said she's "fair game" and 2. he's already made a move on a girl who's been in a relationship with a man that he knows well enough that it should matter, but it doesn't. Apparently, they don't like each other very much.

So, it would have to come down to me being as malicious as he is, and that's, like I said, distasteful.

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chenoa wrote:
I don't think he's letting bullshit get in the way now that this has happened. Sometimes, the drama and the stress just aren't worth it. Maybe I'm too jaded now. I try to still tell people to go for the one they feel is special, but I've realized that it's easier to feel all the feels in those first few moments because the best part of a relationship is that first spark. It's hard to turn away from that. Basically, I say let the dust settle and move from there.

Pretty much.

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I've been having a hard time lately with Xander. I feel like since his diagnosis, even though I have told myself not to do so, I'm still letting him get away with more than I should be. Maybe he's just that stubborn kid who refuses to listen when he knows it's not okay, but it's getting frustrating. He throws food on the floor when he eats and I'd take the food away, but he needs to eat. He takes the soil from the potted plants and throws it on the carpet. It doesn't matter how many times I tell him it's not okay, he continues to do it, either while I'm distracted, or out of the room. He just gets into everything. He looks right at you and smiles while doing it too. I feel like I've exhausted all the methods. Distraction, having him pick up after himself, scolding, time out (which is laughable at his age), but nothing seems to work. Maybe I've been spoiled by how easily Jude moved past these phases.

So many young kids act this way. I forgot exactly how the parents would handle it, but I would think it's simply taking away something they truly love. End every meal with a treat he really enjoys. Take it away when he misbehaves.

Something like that.

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Liberum69 wrote:
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Lib. If that's how you truly feel, don't tell her about all this. It will just lead to her being disappointed that you let bullshit get in the way of what could be a wonderful thing.

Oh, I wasn't going to let anyone know anything. This is between me and this friend of mine. What's come to a mutual understanding is that our friend that the girl's currently "with," as dick as it sounds, doesn't stand a chance. My friend said this to me, so now there's a touch of maliciousness to it all that's distasteful. I mean, I want this girl because I feel a true connection. I think he just likes her enough to go for the challenge. I can't tell him how I feel about this as it is, because 1. he's already dismissed the other guy's feelings (his roomate's feelings), justifying it by the fact that he already said she's "fair game" and 2. he's already made a move on a girl who's been in a relationship with a man that he knows well enough that it should matter, but it doesn't. Apparently, they don't like each other very much.

So, it would have to come down to me being as malicious as he is, and that's, like I said, distasteful.

Darn. It appears my reverse psychology of telling you to use reverse psychology has failed. lol

"Don't tell her. She'll want to jump your bones when she realizes that you like her for legitimate reasons but can't be with her for equally legitimate reasons." That's what I meant basically.

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Ah, well, I don't think that'd work. I think it would scare her away from us for good, honestly.

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What's his diagnoses Chenoa? You don't have to say if it's private.

I had a good weekend. Also, I saw the guy I keep having sexy dreams about today and he got knocked down pretty hard by another guy when they were playing derby and now I don't want to have sex with him quite as much. We really are all animals in the end.

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Guys play Derby? I had no idea.

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Yeah! Some people call it "merby".

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Is he gonna have to knock the other guy down to sneak his way back into your sexy dreams?

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I think I only fancy him in my dreams so maybe he'll knock everyone down and then cuddle me! (Never have sex in my dreams so cuddles are my version of sexy dreams.)

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188416 wrote:
What's his diagnoses Chenoa? You don't have to say if it's private.

I had a good weekend. Also, I saw the guy I keep having sexy dreams about today and he got knocked down pretty hard by another guy when they were playing derby and now I don't want to have sex with him quite as much. We really are all animals in the end.


It's okay, most everyone who is friends with me on facebook and on here knows already and it's less fresh at this point. He was diagnosed with Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia last September. Even the social worker at the hospital (required to keep up with parents in these situations) says that it's best to just continue with everyday life. But the first time I did what I would normally do as far as food is concerned, his glucose levels were so low the next day that he couldn't get his scheduled lumbar puncture and chemotherapy. That just seems counterproductive. As far as rewards, mostly for meals, he won't eat what he has if you even mention something sweet he likes. I have to make my oldest wait until both are done with their food to do dessert, if any.
I'm also starting to wonder if what he's going through is delaying his regular development.
Sometimes, my mind flashes back to the night he was just lying there on the bed and crying for me (this was after he had already started walking and would follow me everywhere I went) while I was folding laundry. I had already taken him to an Urgent Care because it was the weekend and the dumb fuck of a "doctor" barely even looked at him and sent us home with a prescription for diaper rash cream. Seriously. His temperature was in the 100s, he was clearly in pain and couldn't move and the fuckwad wouldn't even listen to me. I'm grateful that I didn't just trust the idiot and the next day when the boys were to go with their father, I told him he had to take Xander to the doctor because something just wasn't right. I still want to go back and punch that quack in the face.
I'm sorry, this should've gone in the Buzzkill Thread. It's just been on my mind a lot because I've been really down.
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Tonight I realised I don't really like most of the girls I hang out with. They're supposed to be my high school friends, but I don't like at least 3 of them, never did, but we all hang out because they're friends with the others. And I was really pissed at the one who told me I'm like Becky Sharp, I told her and was kinda cold to her all evening.

I didn't think too much about silly things today, and I'm glad.

Tomorrow morning I'll wake up and see the Oscar winners and then spend half an hour looking at the dresses. My bet is Lincoln will get at least 6 awards.

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chenoa wrote:
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What's his diagnoses Chenoa? You don't have to say if it's private.

I had a good weekend. Also, I saw the guy I keep having sexy dreams about today and he got knocked down pretty hard by another guy when they were playing derby and now I don't want to have sex with him quite as much. We really are all animals in the end.


It's okay, most everyone who is friends with me on facebook and on here knows already and it's less fresh at this point. He was diagnosed with Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia last September. Even the social worker at the hospital (required to keep up with parents in these situations) says that it's best to just continue with everyday life. But the first time I did what I would normally do as far as food is concerned, his glucose levels were so low the next day that he couldn't get his scheduled lumbar puncture and chemotherapy. That just seems counterproductive. As far as rewards, mostly for meals, he won't eat what he has if you even mention something sweet he likes. I have to make my oldest wait until both are done with their food to do dessert, if any.
I'm also starting to wonder if what he's going through is delaying his regular development.
Sometimes, my mind flashes back to the night he was just lying there on the bed and crying for me (this was after he had already started walking and would follow me everywhere I went) while I was folding laundry. I had already taken him to an Urgent Care because it was the weekend and the dumb fuck of a "doctor" barely even looked at him and sent us home with a prescription for diaper rash cream. Seriously. His temperature was in the 100s, he was clearly in pain and couldn't move and the fuckwad wouldn't even listen to me. I'm grateful that I didn't just trust the idiot and the next day when the boys were to go with their father, I told him he had to take Xander to the doctor because something just wasn't right. I still want to go back and punch that quack in the face.
I'm sorry, this should've gone in the Buzzkill Thread. It's just been on my mind a lot because I've been really down.

I'm really sorry you are going through that. All the hugs in the world for you and your kids.

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Yeah, at least he has a great mom to take care of him. That doctor sounds like a fucking joke.

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It's just that I meet a lot of women (and the crowd does a giant jerk off motion). This girl stood out more than pretty much any other.

Yeah, it was probably me. I wonder what this novela of mine would be called. "Chino Perdido" maybe?

That's a good title. Maybe ask your friend to help you write it... no? Okay.

It's sucks that she was so great. But if a great relationship came at the cost of fucking up everything else in my life... it wouldn't be worth it to me. I'd be unhappy and it's not fair to count on someone else being enough of a wonderful boyfriend/girlfriend to fix so much. Especially if you don't even know them.

And it's not like she's getting married right now and you're going to war for a decade. Unless you're living a Nicholas Sparks story, it's perfectly possible that you can just... date her later, right? Once you get the asshole out of the picture (with either many long talks or a hired assassin).

But I've felt the whole shattering of illusions when someone I've looked up to all my life turns out to be... human. And not even a particularly great human at that. That hurt worse than any romantic relationship.

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Ah, well, I don't think that'd work. I think it would scare her away from us for good, honestly.

Maybe, maybe not. But yeah, if someone told me all this stuff was going on... I'd fake my death and change my number. Mostly because your friend sounds like a complete psycho. And she already at least sort of likes and trusts him.

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I had a good weekend. Also, I saw the guy I keep having sexy dreams about today and he got knocked down pretty hard by another guy when they were playing derby and now I don't want to have sex with him quite as much. We really are all animals in the end.

Hahahahaha....

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Yeah! Some people call it "merby".

Hahahahahahahaha...

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I get a little too excited about actors. I was standing up while best supporting actor was being announced and Christoph won and I blew my knee out from jumping and I'm so happy now. I love Christoph and his cute ass self.

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I slept 4 hours. I'm gonna look like seven hells today at college.

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It's just that I meet a lot of women (and the crowd does a giant jerk off motion). This girl stood out more than pretty much any other.

Yeah, it was probably me. I wonder what this novela of mine would be called. "Chino Perdido" maybe?

That's a good title. Maybe ask your friend to help you write it... no? Okay.

It's sucks that she was so great. But if a great relationship came at the cost of fucking up everything else in my life... it wouldn't be worth it to me. I'd be unhappy and it's not fair to count on someone else being enough of a wonderful boyfriend/girlfriend to fix so much. Especially if you don't even know them.

And it's not like she's getting married right now and you're going to war for a decade. Unless you're living a Nicholas Sparks story, it's perfectly possible that you can just... date her later, right? Once you get the asshole out of the picture (with either many long talks or a hired assassin).

But I've felt the whole shattering of illusions when someone I've looked up to all my life turns out to be... human. And not even a particularly great human at that. That hurt worse than any romantic relationship.

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Ah, well, I don't think that'd work. I think it would scare her away from us for good, honestly.

Maybe, maybe not. But yeah, if someone told me all this stuff was going on... I'd fake my death and change my number. Mostly because your friend sounds like a complete psycho. And she already at least sort of likes and trusts him.

Well, I've got some updates.

This fucking guy, this fucking malicious guy, he comes up to me and tells me, "Okay, I was drunk last night, didn't mean what I said, let's give our friend a chance, and we'll sneak in after." I say, "Okay," he understands what I'm feeling at this point, things are up in the air and we're not bad people. We want what's best. That's just drunk talk last night. It was nothing.

Lo and fucking behold, I show up to the Oscar viewing, and underplay my hand so extensively, for this other friend, while this guy, the malicious guy, sits next to her and plays his hand right away. I can't, cuz I decided, like the fucking nice guy I am, to sit a seat away, with the guy that's "with her" sitting between us to give him a shot. No, the guy she's with goes to bed, and BOOM, the malicious asshole, hand around her and all, playing the game. Now I'm playing it many steps behind and I can't possibly, from what I've taught this other guy, expect to interject. All I'm thinking is 'Hey, what the fuck were we just talking about?' But no, he played me, and now I can't trust him.

We've talked about this, too. There's a girl we want to cut from the movie, and he talks to her like he's still on board with her "just in case." I express my thoughts, saying, "How do I know you don't have the same attitude with me." He says, "No, no, no. You're in the inner circle," and all that. Now I'm not so sure at all.

So the night goes on and he keeps it up, with me trying as I can to draw attention to me, trying to act "alpha," as much as I fucking hate the stupid idea. And it works for awhile. I draw her away from him and all, but he knows the game, and tries to sink her in, which, at the end of the night, he succeeds. When she's leaving, I decide to leave too, and as I'm getting in my car, I see that she's waiting, door open, in her car with him next to her, for me to leave, meaning they kissed, duh. So I speed off and think, 'Well I fell for it all, and now I'm going to have to play a sneakier game that I know he won't see coming.'

So I text her after, saying, "We have some things to talk about." She's all up for it and excited. Now I'm going to meet with her tomorrow over breakfast I'm going to live up to my name as the honest guy, which I fucking am, and lay what's going on with her, in a way that's perfectly subtle and honest, obviously, but enough so she knows who I am and that what we have between each other, which was going on before and during this bullshit, is something that's real.

I told myself I wasn't going to play this game anymore a long time ago, but holy shit, tonight? We connected in even more ways than before, so fuck it. Fuck my best friend. He wants to go to war with me on this? Dude, he's outplayed and outmatched.

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So now you have to put your big move up against HIS big move and because you taught him how to execute moves, it's like your moves are almost equal to each other.

So it's this.

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I recommend the honest part.

If you are really into her, if you really like her at all as person, as a human being worth your respect, be honest about this all.

She is a human. Not a game piece.

I mean. just read everything you wrote/have written as though you wee her and found it.

I think you need to be honest even if it means you won't get her.

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@labelleza

Let's hope I'm Harry in this one. But damn, if we're talkin' innuendos here, I'm pretty sure I've got the more potent elder wand.

@pepper

That's how I've been approaching romantic connections for so long. Honesty goes a long way, if not just with girls that appreciate it, it's also with women that respond to a mind that has nothing to hide. Um, I don't know on this one. She might be a sucker.

But fine, I don't want a sucker (figuratively speaking).

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You don't want a sucker. So be honest. If she hates it or hates you then she isn't right afterall.

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Will you continue your Matt Damon / Ben Affleck thing with that guy?

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Let's hope I'm Harry in this one. But damn, if we're talkin' innuendos here, I'm pretty sure I've got the more potent elder wand.

Yeah yeah. I don't know which one of you is which but the roommate that went to bed early is definitely Cedric.

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Voldemort didn't have the elder wand for three more books/movies.

Right then Dumbledore had it. So figure out who Dumbledore is, the remember that Dumbledore was gay. Homosexual gay. Not Gay gay.

oopps... sorry for the nerding...

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@pepper

Pretty much. But I don't think she's a sucker enough to fall for shit after the intentions have been laid out for her. Goddammit, though, I have to be careful about what I say. Still mulling it over.

@labelleza

Yeah, women aside, the guy's fun and useful enough that if I get an inkling of him not sincerely caring about my thoughts, I can drop him like a hat. Faster than a hat. Hats have too much resistance. It's a talent. I can be genuinely attached at one moment, and not even think twice about cutting you loose the next if I feel you don't deserve the second thought.

But Cedric was dead! This other guy, I'm still gonna have to deal with his face after I possibly end up making out with her in the end before I wind up with my best friend's sister, which ain't possible, cuz he's an only child, so fuck. It's do or die now.

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Can I just marry you two? Like, now? This is pretty much all I need. A mix of penetrating thought and a satirically humorous thought to remind me that none of it is anything beyond what I put into it.

No? Fine. I wasn't looking forward to you two fighting over the bigger rock anyway.

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Also, we're not in Utah, where this girl is from, and is inviting me to snowboard on some - what she claims to be - killer ramps.

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Sorry, you've got that thing going with Cho Chang and it's still possible she's the one playing all of you and if so, I don't want any of the shit she's got to give.

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Aw Chenoa I'm sorry you all have to go through that, I hope he gets better soon. Doctors can be lazy and stubborn sometimes I think, good for you not letting him fob you off.

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labelleza wrote:
Sorry, you've got that thing going with Cho Chang and it's still possible she's the one playing all of you and if so, I don't want any of the shit she's got to give.

Goddammit. Maybe she is. Truth serum or not, if she's fucking with us, chalk that up to another reason why it takes so long for me to meet a girl that I feel is worth a drunken rant to you people.

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Oh man. I should've added a spoiler warning to that.

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Anyone who can possibly be spoiled when it comes to Harry Potter doesn't matter because they obviously don't care.

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If someone says to you, "You're in the inner circle," they're playing you hard.

Word to the wise.

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I don't mean to sound like a twat but if the girl kissed your mate already, isn't it already a bit of a lost cause? Or does she just kiss anyone?

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How the hell do I get the most compliments on how I look today of all days, after sleeping 4 hours and bawling my eyes out for 2 before that?

I did have a pretty hairdo though.

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ScribblingDes wrote:
Anyone who can possibly be spoiled when it comes to Harry Potter doesn't matter because they obviously don't care.

Oh no, fuck those people. I meant spoiler for Lib's life. Now he won't be surprised when it happens.

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One of my classmates who I hang out with has just texted me to ask if I was okay, because I seemed a bit sad at school. I thought it was really sweet of her.

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