Painful Sounds

mindless self indulgence used to work. i'm usually the one getting shat on by other peoples radios blaring country and poppy crap though.
my cringes come from justin timberlake's cry me a river. anything obnoxious and if it sounds like jack off lyrics, meaning nothing creative, not even their shitty drum machine trac beat over and over and over. say for instance, fred durst and other bands that sing and write music with writers block and other excuses for why it sucks. kid rock can turn a stomach faster than bad... um.... food.

Merzbow seems to work. Any of Japanese stuff: Ruins, ex-Girl, Melt Banana...

Melvins works on those blink-182 punk crowds.

Blink 182, Sum 41, Greenday and so on ARE NOT PUNK! Punk is a form of social revolution, whereas these bands and their cohorts wouldn't know social revolution if it came along and set fire to their mass-produced t-shirts. These bands are skate rock, or better yet "brat rock"

Pink - Get the Party Started

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Joe the Coat [/i]
[B]Blink 182, Sum 41, Greenday and so on ARE NOT PUNK! Punk is a form of social revolution, whereas these bands and their cohorts wouldn't know social revolution if it came along and set fire to their mass-produced t-shirts. These bands are skate rock, or better yet "brat rock" [/B][/QUOTE]

Punk is a form of rock. And they are punk, they just aren't poser punks, they actully want people to listen to their music, they don't care if people buy it. Except Sum 41, who is a bunch of punk posers. Course, I can be wrong, hence the fact I don't listen to punk rock, nor watch TV very often (just movies). ZWAN!

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by XChuck [/i]
[B]Punk is a form of rock. And they are punk, they just aren't poser punks, they actully want people to listen to their music, they don't care if people buy it. Except Sum 41, who is a bunch of punk posers. Course, I can be wrong, hence the fact I don't listen to punk rock, nor watch TV very often (just movies). ZWAN! [/B][/QUOTE]

In my own opinion,

Punk in creation was a movement as he said. Today, to feel "cool" or special or whatever such mentioned bands call themselves punk and in defense of all the people that rebuke them for that. They claim it a type of a music, not that they are involved in a movement that died decades ago not to long post its conception. There are still bands practicing the movement but they are underground. Any kind of mainstream bands playing so-called "punk" are indeed brat rockers beating out their 3-chord redundancies and bleating their scratchy voices.

tsb

If an album has bonus DVD footage on it, chances are it's not punk. If there's an "edited version" available, chances are it's not punk.

Blink, SUM 41, et al. are punk in the sense of, "Hey, let's exploit a bunch of teenage fuckin' idiots and take their parents' money."

Not to spoil all the elitist fun, but how about all of these labels are a load of old bollocks? I know people who claim to like all forms of music, but don't think twice about dismissing bands they don't like as noise. These people are what we in the business call "arrogant twats". Not that I'm implying anything, of course.

Ok, for those wondering what exactly [I]true[/I] punk is, watch "The Filth and The Fury; A Sex Pistols Documentary". An incredible film, made better by the fact its all real. Remember that when watching footage of rioters dragging armoured cops around the place and piles of garbage 8 or 9 foot high on the side of east London streets. This film explains what caused the original punks to start rebeling. Now I think about it, it was oddly Fight Club, the Sex Pistols would even start fighting each other on stage for no reason other than they felt like it. And it tells you who invented the mosh! And has that great Bill Grundy - Sex Pistols + Souixe of Souixe and The Banshees (if my spellings wrong, sorry) interview.

And I quite like Skate/Brat rock, when I'm in the mood for grin-inducing music, but I object to them using the name punk. But its better than pop bands using the punk name *coughBustedcoughAvrilLevengecough*

Oh and Zwan do rock oh so much. Billy Corgan is indeed a god. Why's he called Billy Burke on the band list in Mary Star?

Hey, I'm not saying that Blink or Sum or whatever are without musical talent or value, just that they're a far cry from punk rock. I personally kinda like "Dammit", but I don't pretend that it holds a candle to something like TSOL's "Code Blue" or anything like that.

Pennywise (before About Time) was skate punk. JFA is skate punk. JFA is good enough to be tatttooed on my arm. And it is.

There's so many variations of punk out there: pop-punk, street-punk, crust, oi!, surf-punk, skate-punk, cow punk....

Go check out Agent Orange, JFA, TSOL, early Pennywise, Bad Religion's earlier stuff. They've got intelligent lyrics.

Oh, and here's the weirdo, non-conformist music I listen to that pisses people off: Nomeansno. Venetian Snares. The Crucifucks. Hot Damn!. Cylob. Really aggressive jungle is good, just not that Jumpup shit. Happy Hardcore - if you want to piss people off, REALLY piss them off, there's nothing better than HHC.

But never forget the originals; The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Souixe and The Banshees, The Damned... Theres more I don't remember. I was raised on these bands by my sisters. As wells as classical, Paul Simon, and Arabian music... good mix huh?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Joe the Coat [/i]
[B]
Oh and Zwan do rock oh so much. Billy Corgan is indeed a god. Why's he called Billy Burke on the band list in Mary Star? [/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Joe the Coat [/i]
[B]no reason other than [he] felt like it.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Very good twosmokingbarrels, I like that... and it makes sense as far as Billy Corgan goes...

GO JOE GO

you are right blink and greenday and sum41 are definatly not punk they obviously dont realize that the "people" they dont like are the people who love their music
what about avirl lavi-how ever the fuck you spell her name

and TSOL are great and so is sex-pistols and so is the clash

I don't even like calling blink 182, etc.. pop punk or poser punk because I think it ruins the good name of punk. I like to refer to it as shit. It is an insult to the true punk bands to refer to those shit bands as a form of punk.

punk is dead. the social revolution thing is simply overdone. the flaw with punk is that it was rebelling from the status quo, except most of the punk leaders were too ignorant and uncreative and so they rebelled in [b]EXACTLY THE SAME WAY[/b]. the end result was a submainstream that turned out to be just as irritating as the norm.

blink, nfg, hell even the ramones, nofx, etc...they suck and the genre is dead. everything of value is in the underground.

Word.

i agree with you plastic, all of those bands you mentioned suck

metal is where its at

anything by avril laverne (or whatever her name is)

*She is just as fabricated as brittney. in NO way is she the "anti-brittney." Graaaaaa!!!!

The Decline by NOFX is a great song, though... Other than that, they're alright, but I don't really listen to them, just that one song.

And whoever was talking about genres all being bullshit, you are correct. Everyone needs these silly little labels to make everything fit in right, it's kind of annoying.

If you need labels, here are two you can use. Good and bad. When someone asks what kind of music you listen to, just say "good music". And then you can mock them when they starting listing all the different genres they like that make them like, you know, such a diverse person! Hehe!

I didn't even know who Avril was until a few weeks ago, I still haven't heard any of her music. Call me sheltered, but I think it's nice. I used to bitch about all the pop icons and such, then I just stopped paying attention to radio and MTV so I don't even know who they are anymore...

It's kind of fun when people start ranting about how much they hate so-and-so and you're thinking "who...?" Then they freak out because you don't know about theeeeeeee most popular person ever and then they go on explaining why they know so much about said person even though they hate them so much. All the while you're just smirking.

disx make sure you never hear that dumb bitches music it will affect for life you will go brain dead for 3 mins or you could have an anuerysm and every time i hear anyone say they like her it makes me want to put an unholy rain of bullets upon the populus

K.

Would you call this band here close to what the whole punk movement was about?

"The bands' main goal is to play music that creates an all for one, one for all environment where everyone is encouraged to participate, sing along, and hopefully have a good time. In the true spirit of punk rock we view the band and the audience as one in the same; in other words our stage and our microphone are yours.

In addition to hopefully bringing people together for a good time, we hope to share some of our experiences and beliefs in working class solidarity, friendship, loyalty and self- improvement as a means to bettering society (i.e. You can preach till you're blue in the face but if you're lying in the gutter no one's gonna listen. If you pick yourself up by the bootstraps and live your life to the best of your ability you may set an example that others will follow)."

yes, that is punk. are you thinking of a specific band, twosmokingbarre?

Punk sucks. Listen to more techno.

no offense murderkitchen, but techno is just plain awful. i almost killed someone who was listening to techno because it was driving me insane. techno is one of the only kinds of music that i physically cannot listen to

Yer just listening to the wrong kind of techno.

what kind of techno am i listening to?

Some techno is good.

But even good techno is just 'fun' music to listen to, can't usually find much meaning in techno. (It happens, but rarely.)

"It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds."

< thanks for staying on topic guys... >

no seriously, i need some more suggestions for utterly grating and painful pieces of shit songs-- please-- debate the point or not the point of punk elsewhere.

oh well, while im here, re: punk. the DAMNED fucking own it. case closed.

any techno or emo song. you name it, it is painful and shitty

Hrm. Sunny Day Real Estate is often called emo, and they are not shitty, at all. Listen to the song Pillars, it is one of my favorite songs.

tombstone

Raid the local Waffle House for their pancake inspired country songs. The only thing that could possibly be worse is taking a tape recorder to your local karaoke bar (not only can people not sing, but they pick the shittiest songs).

Wham - Wake me up. I hate this song with a passion.

WITH A FUCKING PASSION.

Anything mind-numbingly repetitive. Alternate between really bad techno and hardcore music. Endless beats followed closely by what seems to be the same jibba-jabba yelling over and over. That's what you could do to piss me off anyway.

Joe, Joe, Joe... Those bands aren't originals. You got to go back to the 60's and bands like the MC5 and THE STOOGES. (Tho I'm NOT implying that the bands you listed don't ROCK)

funny to watch how threads morph almost as far away as possible from their original subject

they mean well Kitty, im sure. or hope. is that safe? oh boy, it aint. it aint.

ah, thankyou Rents- some WHAM / George Michael will do nicely. as this guy is annoyed by such music and about a gay paranoid as you can get.

wake me up...before you go-go, don't leave me hangin' on like a yo-yo...

great. now that's going to be stuck in my head all day.

there's 2 songs in this world that make me want to pull my hair out when i hear them. the first is "yellow" by coldplay. i hate how he says "yellow." the second goes: "this is the story of the girl...who cried a river and drowned the whole world..." ugh, it's pissing me off just typing the lyrics.

OOOHHHHHHHH, you want to piss someone off with music. Why didn't you say so? I was able to get a roommate to change rooms in college by listening to DEATH METAL. Death Metal really gets on people's nerves unless you are a fan (I am not a fan, it's just plain bad).
Some good ones: Napalm Death, Gorgoroth, theres a bunch more that I can't think of.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by disx [/i]
[B]I didn't even know who Avril was until a few weeks ago, I still haven't heard any of her music. Call me sheltered, but I think it's nice. I used to bitch about all the pop icons and such, then I just stopped paying attention to radio and MTV so I don't even know who they are anymore...

It's kind of fun when people start ranting about how much they hate so-and-so and you're thinking "who...?" Then they freak out because you don't know about theeeeeeee most popular person ever and then they go on explaining why they know so much about said person even though they hate them so much. All the while you're just smirking. [/B][/QUOTE]

I totally agree. I wish I could do that. I try not to listen to the radio. But being a high school student with no driver's license it's pretty hard. (God damn it, I hate driving)

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DoNotTrip [/i]
[B]yes, that is punk. are you thinking of a specific band, twosmokingbarre? [/B][/QUOTE]

Dropkick Murhphys. I copy and pasted that directly form their site. I didnt want any outside influences so i left out the name.

A song that could offend some people especially if their animal lovers would be:

[b][COLOR=crimson]Geroge Carlin - Dead Puppies[/COLOR][/b]

On Bush's(not the president ) remix cd theres a song that sounds like a broken record through most of it. That would annoy some people.

I second Death Metal.

Meow Mix theme "Meow, Meow, Meow..."

Tool -Hush, Jerk Off

He tells people to fucking kill themselves, that he'll shoot them himself, and that he'll shoot them in their fucking head. But he's just kidding . No band better than Tool(that still plays).

If I think of more i'll contribute

aah thanks guys, these are great. and yes moe.ron- that 'crying a river strumpet song' is so crap. and this guy fucking loathes Coldplay- and anyone from Manchester really. which reminds me, gotta get stuck hardcore into the fuckin' Oasis.

one problem, DoNotTrip , Death Metal will send this pom around the twist too, i dont know if i can stomach it for more than a second !

Glad I could help, Wesley.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by moe.ron [/i]
[B]the second goes: "this is the story of the girl...who cried a river and drowned the whole world..." ugh, it's pissing me off just typing the lyrics. [/B][/QUOTE]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......... *continues screaming as he leaps off the nearest cliff.*

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Joe the Coat [/i]
[B]Blink 182, Sum 41, Greenday and so on ARE NOT PUNK! Punk is a form of social revolution, whereas these bands and their cohorts wouldn't know social revolution if it came along and set fire to their mass-produced t-shirts. These bands are skate rock, or better yet "brat rock" [/B][/QUOTE]Aren't we enlightened. Go put on your RHCP album, you twat.

Lecturing me on what's punk and what's not...[/intentional assholery]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Joe the Coat [/i]
[B]Ok, for those wondering what exactly [I]true[/I] punk is, watch "The Filth and The Fury; A Sex Pistols Documentary". An incredible film, made better by the fact its all real. Remember that when watching footage of rioters dragging armoured cops around the place and piles of garbage 8 or 9 foot high on the side of east London streets. This film explains what caused the original punks to start rebeling. Now I think about it, it was oddly Fight Club, the Sex Pistols would even start fighting each other on stage for no reason other than they felt like it. And it tells you who invented the mosh! And has that great Bill Grundy - Sex Pistols + Souixe of Souixe and The Banshees (if my spellings wrong, sorry) interview.

And I quite like Skate/Brat rock, when I'm in the mood for grin-inducing music, but I object to them using the name punk. But its better than pop bands using the punk name *coughBustedcoughAvrilLevengecough*

Oh and Zwan do rock oh so much. Billy Corgan is indeed a god. Why's he called Billy Burke on the band list in Mary Star? [/B][/QUOTE]You think Zwan is any better than "*coughBustedcoughAvrilLevengecough*?"

Damn, child. Wise up. Foo.

this is my confession: michael jackson. but only "thriller" and "bad"

and yes, i know he's a child molester

i've stopped listening to the radio. completely. and i dont miss it.
avril la-whatsherface is not punk. she should be thrown off a tall building into a pile of shit and be raped by a mad goat, just for implying that she is.

the sex pistols , siouxsie and the banshees
they definitely rock

pretty much anything from carmen is good too. yes, carmen, the opera.

if you want scary death metal, try celtic frost, cirith ungol, or english dogs.