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monkeywright
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This is carrying over from Nightrious's post in the Tank Girl thread, because really, this should be talked about, and easy to find.

New users won't think to look in something called "Tank Girl".

You can see the excellent post in question HERE

I'm totally with Dan on this. I have done the same thing in terms of counseling newbs who've wondered why so-and-so is so cruel to them (and it's happened many times, and they weren't only crying about Six, it's been this way since at least '06 for me). My advice was always the same: ignore them alone, let it roll off your back, settle in and make friends, everything will equal out.

Five seconds later, they're back in the same threads, getting in the face of the person who "insulted their honor" or whatever.

I keep seeing these replies scattered around welcome threads like "ooh, I hope you have a thick skin" or "ooh be brave, this place will destroy you", but ...really? There's a higher percentage of people who have stuck around vs those who have left. And really, without naming names...one guy tries to come in bragging about banging "fat ugly chicks", or a mastodon or whatever, to paraphrase his poetic language, and people gave him shit for it.

Another newb who disappeared kept getting angry when people WOULD ASK HIM TO STOP POSTING IN ALL CAPS. And he wouldn't let it go. He got shit for it.

99% of the time when someone gets crapped on, it's because they deserve it, or we, in a none-too-subtle way, are saying "we are a community, here are the adjustments we'd like you to make if you wish to continue hanging around here".

People get shit here when they come in acting like they own the place. Pretty much everyone gets hazed, and most people get through it. Hell, BloodSugar took an inordinate amount of crap when he first got here, but now he's like our very own "guy on the couch". Why? He abides. He would jab back on occasion, but he never cried about shit.

Yeah, there have been a few people who've gotten crap on a level I can't understand for doing next to nothing. 1%, maybe. But those same people, for the most part, kept going back for more. Via PM, I would tell them, the best way to handle this situation is to ignore it, move on. And the cycle would repeat.

I guess, my point is, I don't see it. I just don't see this big clique-y bully circle that people seem to complain about, and I think it's blown way out of proportion. Everyone, for the most part, is very welcoming from what I've seen.

...how about that ignore button? Still not coming?

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maybe they think when we ask them about lobster it's some big in-joke that if they answer yes or no we'll laugh at them?
Or the cujo thing?

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the only ones I can think of that get regularly shit on for being new are folks that join and decide to post their poetry in the fan submission forums. But, come on, they're posting their poetry in the fan submissions forum!

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Another thing that bothers me is this whole "older members think they're too cool to like Chuck" thing.

People get shit when they come on saying "We are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world WHO'S WITH ME?!" Well, not even shit. They get a "Jack says calm down" kinda post.

I've been vocal (to my own detriment) about how much I've disliked Chuck's last 2 books, but so what? This is a fan site. You go to a fan site to argue the pros and cons of the thing you are a fan of.

For the most part, anytime someone comes in with a sane discussion of any of Chuck's work, the threads turn out pretty good. Those are the threads you forget, the pleasant ones, the ones where nothing happens. You get the random blowout somewhere when a new guy comes in asking who else has done the lye burn, or the OMG Chuck's gay?! etc.

SFW? Discuss it, yell about it, close the thread, move on.

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I apologize for the lobster thing. But I will keep on doing it!

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monkeywright wrote:
Pretty much everyone gets hazed, and most people get through it. Hell, BloodSugar took an inordinate amount of crap when he first got here, but now he's like our very own "guy on the couch". Why? He abides. He would jab back on occasion, but he never cried about shit.

Nightrious was the most-hazed person I've ever seen on this website. Hands down.

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1. I think the only real hazing I've seen is to those who deserve it.
2. I really just minded my own business, and things went smoothly. I had a problem with one person only and it was resolved via PM soon after it started, and it was really because I wasn't used to the way it was around here. Easily fixed.
I wasn't here for Nightrious or Blood or anyone else that got it for real, and I think, but maybe it's calmed down a great deal. I don't know.

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Well this was fun, huh, guys? Can't wait for the next one in a couple of months. Because it comes every couple of months now.

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Well this was fun, huh, guys? Can't wait for the next one in a couple of months. Because it comes every couple of months now.
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I believe you're thinking of the "this place has become boring and stagnant and it's not the same as it used to be and I'm taking a hiatus and etc" series of threads due in November.

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I'm new, probably the youngest, most out of place cultie here, and im sure no one would remember me but honestly, I came here as a chuck fan, and started browsing the forums. I got a few laughs out of them, especially nate, but just enjoyed it i guess. Even though you could probably give me the award for most threads without any responses, its no big deal right? Its like being a freshman all over again. Which I may or may not be now. My point being that I enjoy it here regardless of my status, or lack thereof.

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I never got hazed.

Also, I kind of miss HUNTER CARSON.

Like I've said before, this place needs more trolls.

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Every board ends up having noobs crying about longtime members being mean to them for being new and most of the time they're just being pussies. When I started posting I posted something about Survivor which I guess had been hashed over a lot and trypdwyre and a couple other assholes gave me a rash of shit about it. While I didn't deserve it I didn't pop a monocle and vow 'why, I'll never post on THIS board again!' or menstrate about it to the mods and life went on and this isn't really a good example at all now that I think about it but I'm going to post it anyway because I usually don't post something once I realize that I've gone astray.

What I'm trying to say is that trypdwyre was a complete and total douchebag of the highest order. I really hope he was in Mumbai last year.

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mikerocuts wrote:
I'm new, probably the youngest, most out of place cultie here, and im sure no one would remember me but honestly, I came here as a chuck fan, and started browsing the forums. I got a few laughs out of them, especially nate, but just enjoyed it i guess. Even though you could probably give me the award for most threads without any responses, its no big deal right? Its like being a freshman all over again. Which I may or may not be now. My point being that I enjoy it here regardless of my status, or lack thereof.

I've always liked you, dude. You seem like a solid guy. Who cares if nobody answers threads? The point is, you're alright.
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I never got hazed.

I seem to remember a series of back-and-forths between you and someone who doesn't post here anymore, which escalated via chat into an amateur detective farce of epic proportions. Bruised feelings and all, and here we still are. Or soemthing.

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monkeywright wrote:
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I never got hazed.

I seem to remember a series of back-and-forths between you and someone who doesn't post here anymore, which escalated via chat into an amateur detective farce of epic proportions. Bruised feelings and all, and here we still are. Or soemthing.

You mean that shit between me and Alex?

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That wasn't hazing, that's how the British teenagers flirt.

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That wasn't hazing, that's how the British teenagers flirt.

That wasn't hazing or flirting, that was just Alex getting butthurt over me bugging his high school sweetheart.

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'ppreciate it xec8. And don't feel like i'm a follower with the new smiley trend, but dammit i love "Moon"

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While I didn't deserve it I didn't pop a monocle and vow 'why, I'll never post on THIS board again!'

If we can't add an ignore button, can we somehow create a Monocle feature?

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I don't remember if I was hazed. Probably not. But I do remember a few old rude comments from Tobii or Frank or some crap.

Iron Man was like my only friend here at the beginning.

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What I'm trying to say is that trypdwyre was a complete and total douchebag of the highest order. I really hope he was in Mumbai last year.

He had another kid and still lives in Ohio.

I was never hazed either. And I was also a painfully retarded candyland little 18 year old. I really, really deserved to be hazed, but some Australians took a shine to me and it was all downhill from there.

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I don't like that Fano guy. He totally tried to upstage me in the Dress Down thread.

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monkeywright wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
While I didn't deserve it I didn't pop a monocle and vow 'why, I'll never post on THIS board again!'

If we can't add an ignore button, can we somehow create a Monocle feature?


I miss my ignore list like amputees miss their limbs. Every time I see that karbunkle has made another 50 retarded posts in a thread that I'd been gone from for 5 minutes I feel a phantom pain. In my very soul. Sad
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Ozymandias wrote:

What I'm trying to say is that trypdwyre was a complete and total douchebag of the highest order. I really hope he was in Mumbai last year.

He had another kid and still lives in Ohio.


Sounds like it's even worse than I'd hoped. I approve.
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i had a fine time here in the beginning. So, I don't know. Why are we having this discussion again and again? The ones that are good will stay. 'nough said.

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I don't like that Fano guy. He totally tried to upstage me in the Dress Down thread.

Wait.

Wait.

Just wait.

I tried to upstage you?

No, sir. I totally DID upstage you!

Tongue

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I apologize for the lobster thing. But I will keep on doing it!

dude. you totally lobstered me! i thought it was just a Survivor thing? were you being a jerk? haha

i really don't take things to heart over the COMPUTER. this is computer land. plus i always wind up being friends with people that tease me. or i wind up dating them haha.

i tease too. so it's not really a big deal.

plus, most sarcasm is just smart quick wit. and i appreciate smart quick witty people. like Chuck himself.

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Fano wrote:
chubby chops wrote:
I don't like that Fano guy. He totally tried to upstage me in the Dress Down thread.

Wait.

Wait.

Just wait.

I tried to upstage you?

No, sir. I totally DID upstage you!

:p

Have you seen justin's body? It truly was........an experience.

Yours was pretty shocking as well, though. I think his was a bit more

*gasp* though.

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Jenny Jam wrote:
xec8 wrote:
I apologize for the lobster thing. But I will keep on doing it!

dude. you totally lobstered me! i thought it was just a Survivor thing? were you being a jerk? haha

i really don't take things to heart over the COMPUTER. this is computer land. plus i always wind up being friends with people that tease me. or i wind up dating them haha.

i tease too. so it's not really a big deal.

plus, most sarcasm is just smart quick wit. and i appreciate smart quick witty people. like Chuck himself.


No, I wasn't being a jerk. I've been asking new members if they wanted lobster since 2006. It's a tradition, man! It doesn't actually mean anything.
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good. because then i'll just have to whiiine about it.

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LeHaHi wrote:
Fano wrote:
chubby chops wrote:
I don't like that Fano guy. He totally tried to upstage me in the Dress Down thread.

Wait.

Wait.

Just wait.

I tried to upstage you?

No, sir. I totally DID upstage you!

:p

Have you seen justin's body? It truly was........an experience.

Yours was pretty shocking as well, though. I think his was a bit more

*gasp* though.

Oooh yes. I've seen it. With his glass of Merlot.

And what was so shocking about mine? Just the unexpected showing of it? Hm? Hm? HMMM?

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Ozymandias wrote:
monkeywright wrote:
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While I didn't deserve it I didn't pop a monocle and vow 'why, I'll never post on THIS board again!'

If we can't add an ignore button, can we somehow create a Monocle feature?


I miss my ignore list like amputees miss their limbs. Every time I see that karbunkle has made another 50 retarded posts in a thread that I'd been gone from for 5 minutes I feel a phantom pain. In my very soul. Sad
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Ozymandias wrote:

What I'm trying to say is that trypdwyre was a complete and total douchebag of the highest order. I really hope he was in Mumbai last year.

He had another kid and still lives in Ohio.


Sounds like it's even worse than I'd hoped. I approve.

Someone complimented this guy on his negative casserole one time and ever since then that is the only dish he brings to the picnic.
When we had ignore lists, that was 50% of this guys posts; letting everyone know how he just put so and so on it. The other 50% were asking what so and so said about him because he couldn't read their replies while on his ignore list.
Ozy, you are the worst thing to happen to this site since Chuck Palahniuk's Snuff.
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monkeywright wrote:
I believe you're thinking of the "this place has become boring and stagnant and it's not the same as it used to be and I'm taking a hiatus and etc" series of threads due in November.

No, I believe I'm thinking of..

Why are we having this discussion again and again? The ones that are good will stay. 'nough said.

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fano, it was just sort of unexpected. And I was like, omg. Also, it was a bit more revealing that people usually do in DDT

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LeHaHi wrote:

Have you seen justin's body? It truly was........an experience.

Yours was pretty shocking as well, though. I think his was a bit more

*gasp* though.

Did Christopher Walken hack your account?

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and what if he did? would you even try to do anything about it?

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monkeywright wrote:
I believe you're thinking of the "this place has become boring and stagnant and it's not the same as it used to be and I'm taking a hiatus and etc" series of threads due in November.

No, I believe I'm thinking of..

Why are we having this discussion again and again? The ones that are good will stay. 'nough said.

Yeah, but the whole thing was spilling from thread to thread like the final fist fight in Every Which Way But Loose. I'm hoping this thread will be the dirt parking lot where it all ends, and then Clyde will show up in his truck and we can drive off to further adventures.

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Not at all. He's great company.

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Seriously, a negative casserole! Imagine all the bland mashed peas and too orange carrots in that thing!

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fano, it was just sort of unexpected. And I was like, omg. Also, it was a bit more revealing that people usually do in DDT

hahaha, I know, I'm just messing with ya.

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don't fuck around with me, fawn.

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don't fuck around with me, fawn.

O__O.... okay... *backs away slowly*

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I was going to add this:

⊗___⊗

but I didn't.

I'm just kidding as well. Maybe.

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The lack of Morey is killing us...

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...if I can even say 'us'...I don't feel very 'us' anymore...

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And I'll add, the reappearance of Ozy is the best thing to happen in years! We need Alex back too...

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If someone posts a whole thread about being picked on, well that's just like a big "Kick Me" sign because now you know that if you say something they think is "mean" they'll devote an entire post just to you! What a great ego trip.

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And I'll add, the reappearance of Ozy is the best thing to happen in years! We need Alex back too...

two outta three ain't bad.
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This place is at it's best when it has absolutely nothing to say...

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wait a minute, seriously: i genuinely hypothecated for obvious reasons that bigshrimpn started the lobster thing. you know, cause of his profession and all. trivia comes to you from all angles. anyrate, since this thread has been mostly about monologue.. socially, i genuinely keep to myself. yeah Tongue

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