shut up, that's not real.

It's not so much that it exists that bothers me. It's that it hugely successful.

Description: Whenever the listener wears diapers and is in a safe place they will be unable to control their bladder. (31,421 downloads)

31,421 downloads!!!!!!!!!

pff, there are plenty of dumb things that people love.

I love just about everything that is typical american. I love american idol. I love reality shows. i love stupid songs on the radio that ryan seacrest plays. I love all that GOTTA LOVE IT shit.

oh god. I watched this VH1 reality show the other night, Scream Queens, because it was Halloween and I figured why not.
That was with a doubt the worst television I have ever seen. I sat there dumb-founded, holding a pencil and rubbing my temple with the eraser end to ease the head ache it was giving me and at one point seriously considered just pushing the thing into my ear as far as I could. How can anyone watch those types of shows and find enjoyment??

scream queens was sooo last year.

it was really dumb though. I hated that one.

I hate the audience. I hate that there was somebody there to sit still and laugh and ever make a recording, a laugh track. The sports fans who wave their flabby arms in the air and allow there to be millionaires black swan sprouting all over the world; undeserving. The people that stand there and listen to politicians talk, no matter what the politician is saying, and the people who will feel saved by any God, touched by any faith. Those Who Fill the Seats, at countless concerts and in countless movie theaters across the world, no matter what the music, no matter what the movie. That with our near 7 billion, anything will sell. I hate that celebrities can exist only because of people who can't look away. Everybody that had to see 2girls1cup, to encourage the existence of such; they weren't satisfied to realize that with this many people, anything is possible. Youtube sensations that are just people acting spontaneous, porn sites, faces of death, websites like ogrish, even thirty hacks standing around looking bored at the park watching a man with a beer gut and flames on his pants covering House of the Rising Sun--this somehow pisses me off; I hate the fact that ingrained in humanity is that truth: that if you build it they will come, the sluts, they'll come running whatever it is, and if they talk about it, and they will, others will come. I've hated the audience in its every form since there were thirty of us and one teacher, and I sat on a piano bench and refused to move until the end of the day, while twenty nine others might have killed if that bitch told them to, and I can't ignore it all, the world fortified by the audience, and the more I hate this audience, the more I wanna be the host.

I love the word misanthropy.

I hate humanity because a lot of people can't understand they shouldn't have pets when they can't afford them. They let them starve or slowly die of an injury, 'cause "I don't have money to take them to a vet." Makes me sick.

It's hard to hate something we so rarely see anymore...

I dislike hypocrisy and the emmergence of intrinsic emotions of high standard, low profile human dissatisfactions. With our daily lives and our unordinary mind traps we succeed in diminishing our creativity. Just take a peep into our miserable activities and at the unnecessary deeds we put into being. We just seem to don't care about the essence and the truth, the blunt, bare truth. Disconsidering our purpose, we set the wrong example and act as lab rats in a huge maze. Blinded by our immediate need, we don't see the real target we must achieve, the goal we ought to pursue. The balance will turn someday.

Sounds creepy. So what's this real target we must achieve?

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nobody knows what they're doing anymore. they're all just running on autopilot from one task to the next, not stopping or five seconds to think with their own brain. all the while, everything in their wake is falling to the side forgotten and wasted. including their children.

Well, guys. At least we read some nice posts from Nate, Six and Nightrious.

you're one to talk.

Um, no, you're forgetting all the failures because they tend to go unnoticed. All the performers who never found an audience or products that never found a market. To put it another way; if I built it and nobody came, how would you know about it?

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I used to be quite misanthropic, but my views have softened since I've grown up and gained a bit of perspective. Sure, there's plenty of things to dislike about humanity in general, like the tendency to abuse power and obvious stuff like that, but hating people because of what they wear or for their preferred for of entertainment is just elitist snobbery.

EVERYONE WHINES

EVERYTHING'S BAD

I hate the fact that people will always find a reason to hate something. I hate the fact that what people actually hate is the contradiction that lies between natural human behavior and unrealistic cultural values brought upon by some work of art displaying the epitome of logic coinciding with emotion, when all of that lies in the subjective. Little do these people know that the fact that they judge others from this moral standpoint shows that these people are the only ones affected by these unrealistic values for society.

Present company excluded, of course.

I hate people that pop out children and can't afford them. There. Is. No. Excuse. to have a child you don't want (in the Western world). We are living in the 21st century, and there are three lines of defense against this:

1. Birth control (which also kind of angers me, because I don't feel like, in the US, it's nearly accessible enough for young women. Why do large families get a fucking tax credit, but me, as a responsible young woman who doesn't engage in risky or promiscuous sex, and has never been pregnant outside of wedlock, unable to afford birth control? And don't tell me Planned Parenthood is the end-all be-all answer; there's only one of them in this city of 1 million people, so it's almost impossible to make an appointment, and to get the blood workup and pill, for me and my income bracket, would be $150/month to start out and $40/month for the prescription. The blood workup is annual.)

2. Abortion

3. Adoption. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT YOUR KID. GIVE YOUR KID AWAY, YOU SELFISH ASSHOLE.

I'm sick of this cultus of motherhood, that young women seem to think that just because they have a working uterus and a sperm donor, they deserve to have a baby. I knew a girl once that got pregnant and said, "I can't give it up, I can't get rid of it." You CAN'T? Oh, why not? Why is that? Is some Mephistophelean figure lurking over you and preventing you from shelling about the $200 it would take for you to get the baby sucked out of you? Flash forward seven years and she's one marriage down and on her third babydaddy. THIS is the culture we're encouraging?

Take charge of your vagina, ladies. It doesn't have to be popping out kids every single second. You don't need to prove to me that it's possible.

Holy crap, I didn't realize you also have to pay for birth control!

The prices I named are on the low end, too. That's the rates for like, poor people who can't afford to see a real doctor.

Also I forgot the old standby: Not being a slut and not having sex with every single guy that will have you. This has worked well for me in the past and I continue to employ it daily as my preferred form of not getting knocked up.

On the subject of parenthood:

I hate seemingly, or supposedly, intelligent people who have a baby and then have nothing more to talk about other than their kids bowel movements.

I hate that they want to talk to me about it because they think since I have potty trained four I find it interesting. No, I want to say, I'm done with that phase of parent hood and good riddance, please shut up about it right now, thankyou.

well, you brought it up.

i personally hate potty training little bitches. my little black dog, king "louie" fourteen, was easy. took like two days. anna, though, she was a pain in the ass. it took like a month to get her to stop squatting in the living room. we'd be playing and she would go to retrieve a toy rabbit and on her way back, just squat right in front of you and piss. i would walk her for an hour and make her sniff everything, and as soon as were back in the house, while i closed the door, she squatted behind me. the first time she peed outside, i was over joyed. i think that was why she was abandoned in the first place. the bitch was hard to housebreak. makes me certainly NOT want kids.

I dislike people in general. Not really for a lot of reasons, just the fact that they're everywhere. Every day i'm baffled by how many humans i share space with for so many hours of the day. Hundreds of them! Thousands of them! Where do they all come from and why do they bother to keep on keepin' on? I guess the same could be asked of me and we'd all have the same answer: why not? And i think that's really a good enough reason to keep on living. If i had a good reason to kill myself i probably would. Same goes for killing others. If i had a reason that i felt strong enough, that would make it worth the hassle to kill someone, i'd probably kill that person. But usually it's not worth the trouble. And, really, i'm pretty pacifistic and anti-violence, so i'd probably have to feel something stronger than i'm capable of feeling to kill someone.
But they deserve it. They all deserve to die.

I guess, really, the only thing i hate about people is that they're so fucking numerous.

Now, I realize that in both cases, this is the minority, but still, I hate organized religion.

"Conversation with most people is dire. Sometimes funny, rarely useful. Most the people I talk to I am waiting for them to be silent."

OR Children! Stupid people multiply much faster, and religious nuts have compounds where they breed small towns and armies.

i hate that for our whole lives we are trained to be model consumers and most people dont even realize how deep it goes...betcha cant have just one!

What if you find that your moderately priced, privately insured birth control prescription fails you and you find yourself knocked up at the age of 19, in your second year of college, by someone you're in a committed relationship with. And then, while you "can" have it sucked out of you, you don't "want" to, and while you "can" give it away, you don't "want" to. So you pop it out, even though you can't afford it. And you come up with a plan. You bust your ass and work hard, doing whatever it takes to be able to afford that baby, having two jobs, literally eating peanut butter out of a jar. And then, finally, when your family has gotten over the shame of the little "bastard" you've created, once they've decided turning their backs on you was a bad idea, and now you don't NEED their help and wouldn't take it for all the tea in China, thank you very much, after THE BOY WHO SAID HE LOVED YOU has been long gone, and you decide you SHALL NEVER BE HUNGRY AGAIN.

Do women in those circumstances deserve to have a baby?

No, those women are the worst.

that was far too specific...hehe. the problem is for those women who have two jobs to support a child dont have enough time to be a parent alot of the time because they are slaves to the wage, and cant make sure their kid stays out of trouble. so we blame these horrible mothers for being bad parents when in reality its the low wages that keep a woman at two or three jobs busing in and out of the city to barely pay for rent and food that causes the prob to begin with. not to mention the fact that a lot of men bail cus the baby isnt inside them...theyr free to go make ten more.

i rambled, i know, but i feel for single moms

I lol'd.

But in reality, while I agree with Jane's main idea, there are always different circumstances. I think she was talking more about women who just have sex and don't care. Girls who don't think about the consequences.

That's the thing. Nobody can "keep a woman at two or three jobs busing in and out of the city to barely pay for rent and food". You don't give up. You do whatever it takes to improve your lot in life so it doesn't have to be that way. Where there's a will, there's a way. And you don't have MORE babies (unless that's what you choose to do, years later, under more ideal circumstances, when you CAN afford to have a baby).

Oh, yeah, me too! tee fuckin hee!

speaking of misanthropy, why is corellion being such a dick to imke?

Nooo, because he was being sarcastic. At least, that's how I read it. I didn't lol because it was funny. I respect women who make that kind of effort, and do whatever it takes to take care of their children and provide for them.

I put it out there, got too fired up and took it personally and should've recognized that it was sarcasm.

Don't worry Alecia. You'll always have my deep respect.

no wait.

He's pretty much a dick to everyone.
I like him, though. He makes me giggle.
But that's probably me being too "teenagy."
(:

And you KNOW I think the world of you, lil girl.

Does that say the Fantastic Four are on their way??

HAHAHA! Holy shit, I didn't even see that!

Mostly it's just surprising that of all the people, she's getting all his vitriol at the minute.

He seems to have a lot to share though. He can't leave it sitting on shelves! There's more inventory coming in every day! Everything must GGGOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo!

Perhaps I should've been more specific. You, my dear, are a hard worker, not a meth addict, and didn't simply keep popping out kids one after the other just because you had the ability to do so.

I don't know if ANYONE "deserves" a baby. But if anyone does, it's you. Definitely.

I've been working with children for about five years now and I've seen some disgusting things. Pregnant women with track marks. Pregnant 17 year olds. Hell, my last family that I worked with, the mom and dad had an agreement that she'd keep having kids until they had a boy, and then he would allow her to have all the plastic surgery she wanted, for the rest of her life. And these were educated, upper-middle-class people living in the suburbs. They already had two beautiful children that they barely appreciated!

Far be it for me to condemn unwed mothers, teenage mothers, whatever. I'm simply condemning people that get pregnant, have the option to not do so (or get rid of the baby once it's born) and neglect/resent/harm the child. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE KID. No one forced you to. Now that it's out here, for the love of God, take care of it. You know???

Thank you, Jane.

I know what you mean...there have been lots of cases of terrible abuse and death at the hands of shitty parents here locally since I've live here. I don't know how it is in your state, but it blows my mind that here we have "abstinence only" education policies (STATE mandated, so this isn't decided on a local level at all) that are mandatory. WTF?

I knew girls when I was younger who got into the same boat I did, but they didn't try to make the best of it or grow up (cause that's what you HAVE to do when you have a baby. It's not about you anymore!). I knew one girl...her poor baby spent the first year of his life strapped to a car seat while she ran around looking for drugs/more baby daddies. I always felt so bad for that kid.

Another thing that gets me is how boys aren't generally taught that they're just as responsible as girls, and that their lives will be JUST AS effected. That's so wrong.

I came across rather bitchy, and the last thing I'd want to do is be bitchy to you, so I apologize, and I really appreciate your follow up post.

I'm glad for that fact that through having a brain, not having a girlfriend, and having good parents, I had the time and opportunity to view the girls around me, and watch how things played out, and I know for sure that if I ever got a girl pregnant, that's my responsibility. It's one of the reasons that I believe men should have at least some voice in whether the girl has an abortion or not. We are expected to be their if they baby is kept, allow us to help decide if the baby SHOULD be kept. That's a different debate though. Point being that I agree, and men are responsible for the babies they make, and it's unfortunate that there is still a double standard that guys that sleep around don't get nearly such a bad reputation as girls that do.

i don't think men should be involved in abortions at all!

If a woman gets pregnant, it's growing inside of her. She gets to say what happens to it.

I mean, if there's a relationship, and the chick get's pregnant, and she doesn't want it, but the guy does or something, like he really wants to be a dad, then, I guess it's still up to her what she does.....but she should consider his feelings....maybe have it and give it to him. I don't think the woman should be required to tell the guy. But she should think about telling him.