Mental Issues

major depression, recurrent, with psychotic features.
drug: zoloft, 150 mg/day

we've already discussed my mental history in detail on the "To Hell and Back" thread...look it up using your handy search forums feature.

my drug for to control my uncontrolable rage is beating the shit outta anything i can find

[b]OMG UR SAEO HARDCORE[/b]
[img]http://suburbanhomeboy.com/timages/page/bunny%20hardcore%20.jpg[/img]

Oh my gosh, the guy holding the Miffy doll is so cool. Seriously.

I have mild biploar disorder...not taking anything directly to treat it, although I do have to take the pill for an entirely unrelated syndrome, one of the symptoms of which is depression...so I suppose you could say that I'm taking birth control for my depression.

acctually i have what we call schizotypal which includes mild schizophrenia, difficulty concentrating for long periods of time,and speech is often over elaborate and difficult to follow

oh and violent mood swings

Fuck this.

Bipolar, schizotypal, blah blah blah...

Cyrus & Jane have mood swings.
Kitty's nuts.
And Bane's just a jackass.

ok im a jackass for having a disorder you dickhead

You're fairly right about me, dixs, but they're mood swings from hell. You anorexic bitch.

This thread reminds me of Brave New World. In the book (I hope most if not all of you have read it) they are constantly taking drugs that make them happy. Seems to me everyone these days is on some prescription for some mental ailment. Maybe my good friend Aldous was on to something with the whole "using drugs to keep people in control" thing. As if TV wasn't enough.

As for me. I like to give my stomach a little injection of B E E R when I am feeling shitty. Other than that, I am usually pretty stable.

issue: moood swings and severe PMT (as in kicking-and-screaming PMT)
drug: mephenamic acid

A.D.D.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! treatment - ritalin

See, I really believe the ADD thing.

I believe the PC term for ADD is now ADHD

only people without a.d.d. say that

what are you implying?

No, I thought ADD and ADHD were two different monsters. I don't know why I think this though; probably because I read an article about Ritalin in Newsweek about 5 years ago.

I've ranted on this topic before, but yeah Bane, you're a jackass.

Everyone here's got this or that wrong with them, it's just bullshit. I could get on medication for being bipolar, I'm absolutely certain, but screw that..

It's like DNT said about Brave New World...

I mean, okay, Kitty says she had psychosis, so yeah, apparently she really needed some sort of meds. That's different, though, unless you're fucking hallucinating, then fuck off with this medication... Blah. I dunno. WTF did they do with people that had ADD in the middle ages? Proclaim them crazy and lock 'em up? Then half the fuggin world would be locked up, if you did that to everyone that's on meds now... It's just stupid, and fucking really rampantly out of control.

Argh, fucking... I really get sick of our society, sometimes... Blah.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by disx [/i]
[B] WTF did they do with people that had ADD in the middle ages? Proclaim them crazy and lock 'em up? Then half the fuggin world would be locked up, if you did that to everyone that's on meds now [/B][/QUOTE]

Back in the middle ages and up until modern times, they did cool (/sarcastic) things to people with mental diseases. The South American Indians would drill holes in the skulls of the mentally ill to let out the 'evil demons.' Insane asylums, up until the 1950's or so, were cruel, inhumane places where people often starved to death or got some kind of bad-ass disease like TB or dysentery and then died. Other people simply locked up their loved ones in their homes and never told anyone of their existence, a la 'Jane Eyre' or 'Rebecca.'

I much prefer today, where everyone, without a lot of stigma, can be diagnosed and perhaps cured of whatever they think is the matter with themselves. Yeah, there's a huge backlash to this, mainly that everyone thinks there has to be something wrong with themselves to be 'normal.' But I think it's a small price to pay for a happier, less closeted society.

My two cents.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jane s. [/i]
[B]Back in the middle ages and up until modern times, they did cool (/sarcastic) things to people with mental diseases. The South American Indians would drill holes in the skulls of the mentally ill to let out the 'evil demons.' Insane asylums, up until the 1950's or so, were cruel, inhumane places where people often starved to death or got some kind of bad-ass disease like TB or dysentery and then died. Other people simply locked up their loved ones in their homes and never told anyone of their existence, a la 'Jane Eyre' or 'Rebecca.'

I much prefer today, where everyone, without a lot of stigma, can be diagnosed and perhaps cured of whatever they think is the matter with themselves. Yeah, there's a huge backlash to this, mainly that everyone thinks there has to be something wrong with themselves to be 'normal.' But I think it's a small price to pay for a happier, less closeted society.

My two cents. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, but they didn't do that with people who had something as minor as ADD or even depression. People had more self-control back then. You're livelihood depended upon you being able to function normally, so you just picked yourself up by your bootstraps and got over it. Nowadays, people are just lazy. There is always a new drug out there to cure some mental disfunction and instead of fixing it yourself its easier to pop a pill.

Now there are extreme examples of mental ailments such as ADD and depression that need drug corrections. For example, it has been proven that people with extreme depression have fucked up seritonin levels. But there are also people on prozac and the like who need to go outside and get a life.

Yeah, what DNT said.

meh...we already had this discussion, as i mentioned earlier in this thread...

k for those who didnt know:
ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder
ADHD = Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder.

my brother was misdiagnosed with both.

k this is gonna sound so stupid, but what is bipolar?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by disx [/i]
[B]but yeah Bane, you're a jackass.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Oh please good sir disx help me with my awful ways since you seem to know everything about everything so please if you will help me get these demons out of my head you super-ultra-genius who no matter what will always deny some sort of arguement as youre a jackass a har har

see the thing that doesn't make sense here, disx, is that you seem to be against medication in most cases, but then when bane mentioned something other than medication, you ragged on him anyway. you're dumb.

ruby, bipolar refers to manic depression.

thank you kitty and by the way disx tell all those people who have been attacked by someone because they thought they were a demon but oh wait i forgot its all in their head!

schizophrenia is a real mental illness that requires drug treatment (although it can be overcome without drugs- see a Beautiful Mind). It is the other wannabe mental illnesses, like depression, that pisses me off. Everyone seems to have some sort of imbalance these days, so what do we use to judge what is normal or not?

I was just thinking... Wannabe is one helluva great song. Time to give that oldie, but goodie, a solid listen to right now.

[QUOTE]wannabe mental illnesses, like depression[/QUOTE]

all i can say to this is, i hope you or someone you love experiences depression like i had it someday.

well I'm not sure to what degree you had depression, but there are definitely alot of fakers out there. If you read one of my earlier posts I did mention that there are cases of depression that are serious and thus require serious treatment (what with the seritonin imbalance and all). However, I've had enough experience in the health care world to allow me to be cynical and suspicious when someone whines about being depressed.

Nice avatar, Kitty!!

Yes, and I also hope that someone in your family someday suffers from schitzophrenia, and decides the best way to treat it is by ignoring the problem, like in 'A Beautiful Mind.' That seems to work out really well for all the homeless people and the folks who are involuntarily committed to asylums by the law. Please do not base your entire sphere of knowledge of mental illness on a Russel Crowe movie.

well, i was gonna reply but jane already gave a good response. so, hear hear!

Shhyeah. I got your back, yo.

The only two cents I'll throw in, is NEVER classify an entire illness as "Fake".

Are people faking ADD? Hell yes. Are people faking Depression? Double hell yes. But the people who are [I]actually[/I] going through depression, without meds, are living inside a hell that seems like there is no way out of, and the people with ADD (The more extreme cases) fail at everything they try and want to do, because they just can't seem to keep their mind on it. I can't think of an illness off the top of my head that is 'Fake', nor any illness that I would be 'willing' to have. What they go through is more than any person should have to, unless meds or therapy helps them.

*drops two pennies, walks off*

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jane s. [/i]
[B]Nice avatar, Kitty!!

Yes, and I also hope that someone in your family someday suffers from schitzophrenia, and decides the best way to treat it is by ignoring the problem, like in 'A Beautiful Mind.' That seems to work out really well for all the homeless people and the folks who are involuntarily committed to asylums by the law. Please do not base your entire sphere of knowledge of mental illness on a Russel Crowe movie. [/B][/QUOTE]

Me = often misunderstood. Time to go cry to my shrink.

Joking aside. I thought I made it clear that I felt that schizophrenia is serious and requires the attention of a professional. I just made mention of the movie to point out that it CAN be dealt with without the use of drugs. FYI... drugs do not completely cure schizophrenia, they merely lessen the symptoms. IMHO it would be better if someone can learn to deal with schizophrenia without the use of drugs, but in many/most cases that is an impossibility.

P.S. It is sick that you would wish schizophrenia on anyone. I worked in an Emergency Room and when schizos were brought in, it was incredibly fucked up. For example: A woman was running throughout the hall from a man she swore was chasing her. She kept pointing to "him" saying that he was going to kill her. They had to bring her to the psych ward, which was under lock and key and I did not have access to that area, so that was the last I saw of her.

P.S. x2 Since schizophrenia is thought to be genetic, the possibility of someone in my family developing it is quite low since no one that I know of has it. The only possibility would be someone I am close with outside of my family, but I think I could learn to live with it since its not happening to me.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Eponymous [/i]
[B]I can't think of an illness off the top of my head that is 'Fake' [/B][/QUOTE]

oo! What about hypochondria!!!

(Now I'm just being dumb )

Touche Jane, Touche.

I never meant to wish scitzophrenia upon you and your kin, sorry about the misunderstanding. I'm just very sensitive about the issue of mental illness, as I have a long family history of it and always kind of carried around a fear of having it myself, as I occasionally suffer from mild delusions (since then I found out that they can often be a symptom of depression too, and they don't disrupt my daily routine). Scitzophrenia can really rip a family apart, as it has mine to an extent, and to imagine someone with severe schitz. trying to keep it under control/self-medicate...the thought frankly gives me chills. But I am drawing my experience from a very narrow base of self-experience, as I suppose we all are, and I did not mean to offend or anything.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Eponymous [/i]
[B]The only two cents I'll throw in, is NEVER classify an entire illness as "Fake".

Are people faking ADD? Hell yes. Are people faking Depression? Double hell yes. But the people who are [I]actually[/I] going through depression, without meds, are living inside a hell that seems like there is no way out of, and the people with ADD (The more extreme cases) fail at everything they try and want to do, because they just can't seem to keep their mind on it. I can't think of an illness off the top of my head that is 'Fake', nor any illness that I would be 'willing' to have. What they go through is more than any person should have to, unless meds or therapy helps them.

*drops two pennies, walks off* [/B][/QUOTE]

For the record. My cynicism towards mental "illnesses" is based on the fact that anti-psychotics and anti-depressants are prescribed WAY too much today. Anyone who feels the slightest bit abnormal is on some kind of medication and IMHO that is absolutely absurd. Are there people who need medication? Absolutely.
However, there are plenty of people who should NOT be on meds. This is drug abuse, plain and simple. Why is this any different from someone taking cocaine to feel good? Cocaine blocks the uptake of dopamine in the brain making you feel wonderful. Should I engage in a cocaine habit if I am going through a shitty time in my life? Answer = no

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jane s. [/i]
[B] and I did not mean to offend or anything. [/B][/QUOTE]

For the record (again), I wasn't offended. I was just being an ass.

Well that's an entirely seperate issue. Drugs are of course prescribed way too often, just as often at way too powerful of doses for the illnesses they're treating. But... that's not what I was saying.
I realize how stupid alot of people are for getting medication at the drop of a hat, but I'm definetely not cynical towards medication specifically. The entire system governing doctors and what they prescribe is messed up. Not that I know all the facets of it, but I've read a little bit, and I'm sure you would agree that things need to change, quite a bit...

I'm definitely not against medication. I support the legalization of medical marijuana (but who doesn't these days). I actually can't be against medication with me being a pre-med student and all. There definitely needs to be reforms with the whole medication thing.

Heres an example: When I worked in the ER the majority of the incoming patients were people looking to get their narcotics fix (morphine, etc...). They would complain of back pain, stomach pain, head pain, etc. in order for the doctor to prescribe them these drugs. I even had suspicions of a few patients injuring themselves in order to have an excuse to get these medications.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jane s. [/i]
[B]I have mild biploar disorder...not taking anything directly to treat it, although I do have to [/B][/QUOTE]

Ok, seriously, that is THE COOLEST TYPO I've ever seen. How cool would it be to have a disorder called, [b]drum fill, deep booming voice[/b] [i]BIPLOAR[/i] DISORDER! It could be like Dave's Syndrome from Black Books

I'm not making fun of you, Jane, but that sounds awesome!

But back to seriousness...

I've never been diagnosed with anything, and I don't think I have anything diagnosable anyway. I went to see a shrink once, but he prescribed me with university. Or rather, he thought I should go to Uni and 'make something more of my life'...

Go figure.

Dude....that was just freaking weird. But, as usual, any accidental entertainment I can afford you is my pleasure, I suppose.

ive been diagnosed with a bad attitude, but they dont give you meds for that.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Eponymous [/i]
[B]The only two cents I'll throw in, is NEVER classify an entire illness as "Fake".

Are people faking ADD? Hell yes. Are people faking Depression? Double hell yes. But the people who are [I]actually[/I] going through depression, without meds, are living inside a hell that seems like there is no way out of, and the people with ADD (The more extreme cases) fail at everything they try and want to do, because they just can't seem to keep their mind on it. I can't think of an illness off the top of my head that is 'Fake', nor any illness that I would be 'willing' to have. What they go through is more than any person should have to, unless meds or therapy helps them.

*drops two pennies, walks off* [/B][/QUOTE]

regarding A.D.D.:
hell yeha people fake it, one of my good friend keeps telling me he has it just so he can relate to me and my best bud a bit more. its the classic case of "hey im dumb, im crazy, i cant pay attention juts like you guys, so let me be cool with you" etc etc

now not all people who have a.d.d. fail miserbly at everything they do, take me for example. as i like to put it, im the smartest dumb kid you'll ever meet. i have amid range a.d.d., medium level. yeah i find hard as shit to pay attention, but also the subject helps too. if its interesting enough than i will pay attention, if not than i wont really care. i knew one guy who was totally fucked up with a.d.d. to the point where he was annoying as hell and kept on looking for dangerous things to do (not dangerous funny. dangerous dangerous i.e. trying to make home explosives and setting things on fire and trashing his house etc)

"So.... Mental illness is all in our heads, then? Thank you, Dr. Disx! Thank you!"

Hyuk. I'm saying don't be a bitch and DEAL WITH IT YOURSELF. This take-a-pill-for-everything society we live in is bullshit. Some cases, yeah, I'm sure there are some people that really need meds. But most people on meds for all these add, odc, cd, etc. don't need them, at all. They're just sooooooooo busy with their all-important little lives that they can't stop to deal with it on their own. Same thing goes for physical illnesses... Antibiotics get prescribed way too frequently, and I feel like I'm a victim of it. My mom always got me meds for any and everything and I'm trying to get away from that, cos I feel like it's made me dependant. I get sick so fucking often and now it's like if I don't get meds for even a simple little cold, it'll turn into something really awful. It's pathetic.

"see the thing that doesn't make sense here, disx, is that you seem to be against medication in most cases, but then when bane mentioned something other than medication, you ragged on him anyway. you're dumb."

Yeah, cos his 'solution' was some retarded "ARGH I BEAT STUFF UP"... Wow, you're soooooooooooooo fucking hard. I'm afraid. Right now. Shitting myself. In terror.

It's just people trying to be something they're not. Hell, didn't Bane say he kinda looks like the kid in his avatar? HOLY SHIT I"M FUCKING TERRIFIED DONTE BAET ME UP PZL

It's just fucking stupid.

"thank you kitty and by the way disx tell all those people who have been attacked by someone because they thought they were a demon but oh wait i forgot its all in their head!"

See, this is the problem. Why the fuck can't people differentiate between SEVERE and MILD? WTF happened here, for real... This is so fucking dumb. OMG u dont bleieve add, dc, ocd, etc are real SO OWTF DO U SAEY 2 PEOPLE SEEING DMEONS!11

I say - that's a SEVERE case and obviously something needs to be done. LEARN TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. Why is that so hard for people? It happens all the fucking time to me. I say something about one thing and then they go on this fucking rant about something TOTALLY DIFFERENT that I wasn't even talking about... Jesus christ... Bane, you're a fucking retard. Kitty, stop defending him, you're better than that.

why do we keep having this drugs vs illness argument, and who needs what. lets all go out and get laid instead of whining.

If only that was a realistic option.... blah.

Apart from occasionahmel epimaleptic seizures my brain seems to be functionahming quite well.

why isnt it an option?

what are we here?
a pack of useless virgins?
NO.
were are all Palahniuk fans.
dont youd think he would think we are truly, the gay, if we sat around here and moped all the time. he wants people to maybe get something out of his writing- to see their own faults, and try to improve their lives.

so, lets all make a commitment, so spike someone.
now.

whos with me?

NO MORE MOPING BY GOD! NO MORE!