How to change things

Approach #9: Shut the fuck up.

You seemed to have left out "The Imperialist" in which we go and chase down flames that aren't even a threat to us in the name of "Global Democracy."

I'm assuming us getting burned was the terrorist attack of two years ago. Terrorist. Do you think for a second that eliminating Iraq is going to stop terrorism or even put a dent in it for that matter?

Bush is still riding the tide of 9/11 so he can finish what his father started 3 terms ago. The problem is, we know better than that.

OH NO TEH ILL DICK HAS MADE TEH PLASTICS ANGRY AND NOW FIGHTING I S HEERE!!111

7.)
and also choice 9.) Should not have set the fire in the first place

I would stop, drop and roll.

4 or 7
Not both.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by plastic [/i]
[B]You seemed to have left out "The Imperialist" in which we go and chase down flames that aren't even a threat to us in the name of "Global Democracy." [/B][/QUOTE]

Destroying flames is #1... there is no "Imperialist" choice. The losers of military actions call the victors "Imperialists".

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by plastic [/i]
[B]I'm assuming us getting burned was the terrorist attack of two years ago. [/B][/QUOTE]

Wrong. Don't assume. This is not a response to Iraq, just a question to see how YOU choose to change things in your life. What do you select?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DoNotTrip [/i]
[B]9.) Should not have set the fire in the first place [/B][/QUOTE]

Not a choice. Weather the fire was set by you or someone else, it has been set - and you've been burned. Time to make a choice.

Choice 10) Throw electric cords into the fire! And then water!

Yeah, self destruction is masturbation. Is that the right line?

Actually your #7 is wrong. A scientist will try to find out why the fire is burning and how it started. At that point the scientist will try to find a logical and reasonable solution to put out the fire if that is desired.

I think this is all wrong. All these people would put out the fire by hitting it, or, if water was at hand, either put water(i.e. a glass of water) on it, or get into the water(i.e. a pool). The only person who wouldn't do something along those lines is either parlyzed from the (if this is possible) jaw down, or is dead.

12) start: OPERATION FLAME FREEDOM

Oh man, Plastic & Zenmaster > Richie.

Thanks for the laugh, guys.

Assuming that the flame is a conflict of some sort within my life I dont believe that I would choose any of the options given. If I were forced to, I would choose number 4. Given the choice to use an option of my choosing I would: 1) Extinguish the flame to prevent further damage. 2) Compare the burnt and healthy portions of my body. 3) Realize upon analyzation that conflict is unnavoidable and even necessary. Necessary in that there will always be contrasting elements within any life. Life is nothing with out death. In the end I will appreciate the flame for the black and charred skin it has left behind makes the rest look all the whiter. (Now good luck placing me in a group)

i would whip out my muthafuckin blow torch vin diesel style!
mmwwahahaha!!!! take that.
then i would kill every kitten in the world.

#13 get your friends to video tape it and try to extinguish it as they throw thigns at you.......im a dub person i know......i do dumb things too

8 + slight variation ( i.e. get loaded and go dancing and chasing women )

HOW tO CHANGE THINGS

By your friendly Optimist of Love and Power, Will Tupper

1. Take things.
2. Move them around.
3. Done!

Heck yeah!

Willtuppers own brand of Feng Shui eh?

Heck yeah Wesley Snack!

I need room for you to dance when you come over with your dance moves of absolute power!

Indeed. Moving stuff around is def. a good thing to do.

How far apart are you planning to put things?

Perhaps drive pieces of your furniture to diff. towns?
As to allow, ALOT of dancing room?

Ah yes, but Wesley Snack. You, like so many popular other people, seem to choose to forget so easily!

A LOT IS TWO FREAKING WORDS!

But we can dance if we want to!
We can leave our cares behind!
And if you don't dance, well then, you don't dance
Then you're, no friend of mine!

What the fuck was the "Safety Dance" anywho?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by willtupper [/i]
[B]Ah yes, but Wesley Snack. You, like so many popular other people, seem to choose to forget so easily!

A LOT IS TWO FREAKING WORDS!
[/B][/QUOTE]

Damnit. Is it?
Ive always been of the school of the 1 WORD ( alot ).
Dont mind me.

Anyway, Lets Dance.

i've just been burned by fire? i shouldn't have stuck my hand in the flame. fuck me.

I can't believe I read down this far...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by XChuck [/i]
[B]I think this is all wrong. All these people would put out the fire by hitting it, or, if water was at hand, either put water(i.e. a glass of water) on it, or get into the water(i.e. a pool). The only person who wouldn't do something along those lines is either parlyzed from the (if this is possible) jaw down, or is dead. [/B][/QUOTE]

So you're saying when faced with pain, most people will react militarily? Intresting.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Anthony_Black [/i]
[B](Now good luck placing me in a group)[/B][/QUOTE]

The naturalist. You will respect the flame and see the value that even though it gives you pain.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Gucci Ghost [/i]
[B]is the flame iraq? or is it ill rich? terrible analogy[/B][/QUOTE]

You liberals are SO DEFENCIVE! It is neither! The flame is an opressor or ailment of any kind!

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trypdwyre [/i]
[B]i've just been burned by fire? i shouldn't have stuck my hand in the flame. fuck me.[/B][/QUOTE]

Who said you stuck your hand in it? I said you've been burned. If your choice is to blame yourself, you are The Ignorant.

Go check the cbn if you want people to side with you. You are: The Irritation.

Plastic, perfect example of the Ignorant.

Blame the person who started the flame.

dear lord rich, you really are full of yourself. let's put your stupid ass theory into real life. we got fucked by osama (or however the hell he cares to translate his name). it was our fault for not protecting ourselves when we full well knew about it. you don't go around attacking nations that you have a grudge again cause you can't kill the guy who "burned" you.

Mistah Eliot, He Wanker.
-- that kind of logic applies in this thread.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trypdwyre [/i]
[B]we got fucked by osama (or however the hell he cares to translate his name). it was our fault for not protecting ourselves when we full well knew about it. [/B][/QUOTE]

Of course! But the American public didn't see it, and the US government didn't it take it seriously, or notice it.

This is why the war with Iraq is going on. To save money, get money and oil, and defend itself.

YOU GOT IT!

lol, listen up little mr. illogical. you just don't get it do you? what we're doing over there [I]is not right[/I]. that's it. there's no "defending ourselves", there's no "getting oil", and there is no "saving money". the people in power got pissed off, and decided to wage war on a country that wasn't deserving of it at the time. all of your rationalizations do not make it ok, right, necessary or however you put it. that has been pointed out to you time and time again. you need to pull your head out of your xenophobic ass and be intelligent about it.
it is wrong.

So this Ill Rich wanker starts a thread and then tells everyone to fuck off if they don't agree with him?

That's so rich coming from a nationalist racist, that claims he's not a nazi.

"The grabbing hands grab all they can
all for themselves - after all
It's a competitive world
Everything counts in large amounts"

Whats next? It's okay for the US to come to take our water, because they need it, or just to be sure?

Ill Rich, get enlisted. Maybe you grow up.

And to answer your orginal question: 1 and 8.

[QUOTE]"The grabbing hands grab all they can
all for themselves - after all
It's a competitive world
Everything counts in large amounts"[/QUOTE]

that is an AWESOME song, esp. the live version.

omigod- you guys know that song?!!?!?!

i thought i was the only person that bought that record.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trypdwyre [/i]
[B]it is wrong. [/B][/QUOTE]

How is it wrong?

It is being done to protect civilization; survival. An Objective for the human. Humans are [i]always[/i] right. Always.

Explain, how is it wrong?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MrHangman [/i]
[B]So this Ill Rich wanker starts a thread and then tells everyone to fuck off if they don't agree with him?

That's so rich coming from a nationalist racist, that claims he's not a nazi. [/B][/QUOTE]

I've told no one to "fuck off", that does not do anything - as you liberals can see from telling me to do so numerous times.

Nationalism?
Racism?

NEVER would I subscribe to those liberal traits! Both Nationalism and Racism are two parts of choosing to be The Ignorant. "He's white, he's only attacking us because we're Arab!" (Ignorant), "Zee Americans are gettzing too powerfull. We must stop zees tyrades right now!" (Ignorant). I would never choose to be ignorant.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MrHangman [/i]
[B]Whats next? It's okay for the US to come to take our water, because they need it, or just to be sure?

Ill Rich, get enlisted. Maybe you grow up. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, if the US had to defend its civilization by taking your water - by all means they should.

Get enlisted? My role in The Objective is not part of the force. I am the new Observer.

yep yep yep...i have "101" so i'm a greatest-hits lamer...but oh well.

anyways. i couldn't resist this, even though i know it's going to bring on an avalanche of bullshit.

HOW TO CHANGE THINGS

by ill Rich:

#1. seek out a forum (it may be virtual or in-person) in which you know your opinion will cause disagreement. for example, if you are conservative, go to a liberal activist meeting and try to stir things up. or, if you are a conservative, you also have the option with today's technology to visit the fan site for an author whose works are known to promote individualism and/or anarchy.

#2. enter this forum, and begin spewing extreme ideas. fight tirelessly (physically if necessary) with anyone who disagrees. if you are proven wrong, pretend not to notice. Compare anyone who disagrees with/argues with you to Hitler, no matter how far away their idealogy. when all else fails, accuse them of being of the opposite poltical viewpoint (if you are a conservative, call them a liberal) with all the venom you can muster. insist that attaching what has traditionally been a neutral political label to someone is an insult, and attach any unbecoming ideas to the label, regardless of reality.

#3. many forum members will become exhausted after a while, or simply dazzled by your stunning display of determination. assure them that you are here for their own good, to "help them help themselves." remind yourself that this is a (idealogically, at least) "war of liberation."

#4. at this point you must take the lead. start your own discussion. this is when you really need to preach to the people. here's one way: set a little idealogical trap for them. offer them a series of solutions to existential problems. however, label them either arbitrarily or in accordance with your own views. make the terms as vague as possible, and call the option you predict most of the people in the discussion will choose "the ignorant." this will show them the error of their ways, once and for all. if anyone objects to this, report steps #2 and #3 as necessary.

The Ignorant speaks.

ILL RICH DOESNT KNOW THE MEANING OF INGNORANT!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

it means "lack of knowledge"

AHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

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An approved resuscitation face mask should be used when attempting
resuscitation. Persons using this mask should have received recent training in
its use.

A burn refers to the damage caused to body tissues by heat, chemicals,
electricity or radiation.

Step 1: Immediate Action

- Ensure safety for the first aid person and bystanders.
- Remove the injured person to a safe environment if possible
- Give priority care to airway, breathing and circulation.
- Cool the burnt area with cold water for 10 minutes to limit tissue damage
and relieve pain.

NB: Hypothermia may result from excessive cooling of a large burn with cold
water.

- Remove any constricting items from the area surrounding the
burn, where practicable.
- Cover the burnt area with a loose and light dressing,
preferably sterile.
- Elevate burnt limbs.
- Do not break blisters.
- Do not peel off clothing or other substances stuck to the
skin.
- Do not apply any lotion, ointment, cream or powder.

Step 2: Subsequent Action

Most types of burns require prompt medical assessment. Refer to doctor or
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the burn. When in doubt, always call an ambulance. Some minor burns may be
given first aid treatment using items from an approved first aid kit.
Caution: Always seek medical advice where any doubt exists.

Types of Burns - Specific Actions

Inhalation (airway burn)

- The injured person may develop breathing difficulty due to
inhalation of hot gases or fumes.
- Oxygen should be given if available.
NB: First aid personnel may administer oxygen only if they hold
a current Occupational First Aid Certificate.
- Medical assessment is essential because breathing
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Scald

- Remove all hot wet clothing as soon as possible because it
retains the heat.
NB: Avoid pulling hot wet clothing across the person's face.

- Check the natural body creases, e.g., neck and groin to
ensure that hot liquid is not retained.
- Arrange for prompt medical assessment.

Flames

- STOP, DROP & ROLL THE PERSON TO PUT OUT THE FLAMES

- Smother the flames with blanket, coat or other appropriate
items.
- Keep the person lying on the ground or floor.
- Remove smouldering clothing which is not stuck to the skin.
NB: Avoid pulling smouldering clothing across the person's
face.
- Arrange for prompt medical assessment.

Electrical

- Disconnect the power source from the injured person where it
is possible and safe to do so.
- Check airway, breathing and circulation.
- Commence resuscitation if required.
- Look for 'entry' and 'exit' burns.
- Seek urgent medical assessment.
NB: These burns are always more severe than they first appear.

Lightning

- Check airway, breathing and circulation.
- Commence resuscitation if required.
- Treat any other injuries.
- Seek urgent medical assessment.

Chemical (Corrosives - solids and liquids)

- Flood the burnt area with water for at least 15 minutes.
- Flush eye burns thoroughly with water for at least 15
minutes, including under eyelids. Hold eyelids apart if
necessary.
- Remove contaminated clothing as soon as possible.
NB: First aid personnel should avoid contact with any contaminated material.
- Identify the chemical whenever possible.
NB: Specific first aid information and requirements should be provided,
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- Keep phosphorus burns (flares, etc) wet at all times
- preferably immersed in water.
- Remove phosphorus particles only with forceps. Do Not Use
Fingers.
- Treat bitumen and molten plastic burns as follows:
- cooling must continue until the substance is cold; - Do not
attempt to remove from the skin or eyes;
- When medical assistance is delayed and the limb is completely
encircled, split the substance lengthwise as it cools.
- Seek urgent medical assessment.

Radiation

- Seek prompt medical assessment for the following burns:
lasers;
industrial microwave equipment;
nuclear radiation;
ultra-violet or infra-red rays.

ha ha, nothing like a literalist to make EVERYONE mad.

So fram, you would use the military approach?

damn, i have been absent from this forum for a few days and i thought ill rich would have died by now

no such luck i guess

ill rich please take this into consideration

I don't know Mandarin, not to mention it's written from left to right.

did you read the bottom you have to turn your head right

here you go again

heh, that's pretty slick bane, i especially like how rich had to look twice.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ill Rich [/i]
[B]So fram, you would use the military approach? [/B][/QUOTE]

hell yeah. ooh- ahhh!

ill Rich=The Gullible

Why not comment on the thread instead of trying to "get" me?

~are you trying to cleverly avoid the fact you got Zinged by fake Mandarin?~

come on... blush... goddamn you...