Hmmm....Who are these people?

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leonardshelby
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I was ultra bored and decided to search for Chuck and see what I come up with.

I found [URL=http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/preview.jsp?fc=NCLONG&TID=0&srcAdID=1050014035&sourceid=&searchZip=&searchState=OR&searchCity=&searchStreet=&searchLName=Palahniuk&searchFName=]this[/URL] which now gives us Chuck's middle name and age; Michael and 41, respectively. It also gives the names of some of Chuck's relatives.

And if someone is willing to pay money (willtupper, you know you want to!), we'll be able to find out his criminal record and whatnot.

And just so you know, I'm not a stalker, just highly bored and curious.

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That's pretty neat, leonardshelby. And I'm flattered LOL that you'd single me out as the one who'd be most tempted to pony up the cash for private info. But I'll have to pass (I always have to pass). I'm not into gathering the data of other folks for no real reason.

Blah, blah, blah. Invasion of privacy and whatnot.

Kinda cool to know it's doable, though. I wonder why "Michael" hasn't been a name of a character yet?

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Why are there two Charles Micheal Palahniuks?

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xchuck, it's obviously his clone.

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Either that or he's got more than one phone line.

THINK BEFORE YOU POST, LITTLE MAN.

Unless you're me and kl0pper. Wink

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Give me ultimate wise-ass humour as a coping mechanism for retardness.

Flash.
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WAHT ARE YOU SAYING MAN LIEK THAT I DONT TIHNK BEFOUR I POST IN TEH SIGHT!!111

OH WAITE I SEE YOU MEANED TO SAY TAHT IF OU ARE TOO PEOPLE LIKE IF YOU ARE YOU AND ME LIKE SIAMEESE TWINS OR SOMETINH THEN YOU DONT TINKH BBECAUSE YOUR BRAINS IS BROKEN FORM BEING TWO THINGS AT ONE TIME YEHA OK ITS COOL MAN

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I entered his name in Google and learned this:

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Geboren und aufgewachsen in Portland (Oregon /Washington). Er wuchs in einem Wohnwagen auf.
Er studierte an der Universität von Oregon Journalismus, fand aber keine Arbeit Anschließend begann er eine Lehre als Mechaniker für Lastzüge.
Hält aber trotz seiner Erfolge an seinem Tagesjob fest, den er seit 13 Jahren ausübt. Bei den Lastzügen ist der im wahren Sinne des Wortes in Berührung mit den Früchten seiner Arbeit. Seine Großeltern väterlicher Seits kamen aus der Ukraine, die Paula und Nick hießen. Daraus wurde der Name Palahniuk. Als er das erste Mal an ihren Grabsteinen stand, und verstand, welches ihre Namen waren, musste er sich stark zusammen nehmen, um nicht zu lachen.
Seine Romane beinhalten schwarzen Humor - sind Satiren.
Er ließt am liebsten Essays.
Er stammt aus der nihilistischen (ablehnenden) Generation.
Er sieht sich als Verlierer.
Workaholic.
Ihm ist es wichtig, ohne Rechtfertigung schreiben zu können. Ihm wurde erzählt, dass 85% aller Prosadichtung an ältere Frauen mittleren Alters verkauft werden. Er wollte für Männer schreiben, um sie zum Lesen zurück zu bringen, nicht für die, die schon lesen. Ein Grund warum Männer nicht lesen: Bücher dienen ihnen nicht. Es sei an der Zeit Bücher zu schreiben, die Männern nütze.
Er schrieb bisher 2 Bücher: "Fight Club" , "Surviver" --> gewaltätige Bücher
Sein 3. Buch : "Invisible Monsters" --> sexuelles Buch
Dieses Buch handelt über eine Frau, deren Gesicht durch einen Schuss verunstaltet wurde und einem Mann, der sein Geschlecht wechseln möchte. Bevor er sein Buch schrieb, hat er sehr viel recherchiert. Für Palahniuk sind Drag Queens out. Für Frauen ist Schönheit der erste Weg zur Macht Schaute sich Mode Magazine an und stellte fest, dass 99% aller Frauen die Sachen nicht stehen. Und mit einem bestimmten Alter oder Gewicht sind Frauen für die Gesellschaft unsichtbar und machtlos. Aber sie entwickeln eine neue Art von Macht. Der Roman handelt über eine Art der Macht, die jenseits der Schönheit als Quell der Macht liegt. Struktur des Romans --> Annäherung an ein Modemagazin, Parodie an die Modesprache.
Er leidet manchmal an arger Schlaflosigkeit. Während einer solchen Schlaflosigkeit hat er sich die Geschichte des Fight Club erzählt.
Das Lustige an einer Schlaflosigkeit sei: Man liege für 1-2 Stunden in einem leichten Schlaf, eine Art Delierium, und wenn man aufwache, frage man sich, ob man überhaupt geschlafen habe. So etwas zerstöre die Realität für eine Weile, weil man dann nicht weiß, ob es ein Traum gewesen sei. Das aber habe keinen Einfluss auf seine kognitiven Fähigkeiten. Er fühle sich dann frei und werde von seinem Komfort getrennt. Er sei dann in einem mit viel Platz gefülltem Trance-Staat in dem er seine Ideen habe. Dann komme er auch mit seinen Verbindungen zusammen.
Wenn er nicht schreibe, dann schlafe er recht gut.
Alles, bis auf den Fight Club selbst basiert auf realen Dingen. Früher arbeitet er als Freiwilliger in einer Hospiz als Schutzbegleiter. Er brachte die Leute jede Nacht immer in die Selbsthilfegruppen und setzte sich aussortiert der Begrenzung und brachte die Leute nach dem Treffen wieder zurück in die Hospiz. Er fand sich schuldig, gesund in einer Gruppe nach der anderen zu sitzen - "Der Tourist". So begann er darüber nachzudenken, was wäre, wenn sich einer verstellte.
Die Idee für den Fight Club: Er war auf einem Camping Trip. Andere Leute, die in seiner nähe zelteten, wollten die ganzen Nächte lang Trinken und Party machen. Er versuchte sie, für eine Nacht ruhig zu stellen und sie verprügelten ihn. So verschlagen und schlecht aussehend, kehrte er zur Arbeit zurück. Und er sah noch drei Monate lang schrecklich aus. Aber die Leute würden das das nicht zugeben. Sie würden aus seien Brustkorb schauen und sagen "Was hast du dieses Wochenende gemacht? Irgenwas lustiges?" -"Ich war wie..., mann, schau mir ins Gesicht. Ich habe dieses Wochenende nichts lustiges gemacht." Er erkannte, dass wenn du nur schlecht genug aussiehst, die Leute nicht wissen möchten, was du in deiner Freizeit gemacht hast. Und sie wollen nicht die schlechten Dinge über dich hören. Und der Schlüssel war es, so auszuschauen, dass niemand jemals fragen würde. Das war die Geschichte hinter dem Fight Club.
Palahniuks Weltanschauung:
Das männliche Ideal verliere seine Identität. Es sei nur noch darauf aus Geld und Macht zu verdienen. Die Idee des Fight Club liefere einen zugänglichen Beweisgrund für Männer um ihre eigene Leistungsfähigkeit zu schätzen und zu entwickeln. Nicht um Schaden zuzufügen, sondern um das Leid zu ertragen. Seiner Meinung nach liege die Schuld daran, dass Menschen das Älterwerden, das Sterben, den Krieg leugnen. So viele Leute kaufen sich Dinge um die Tatsache zu verbergen, dass sie Dinge kaufen, die die Tatsache verbergen... Wir seien Tiere, die essen, Geschlechtsverkehr haben, Unterhaltung benötigen, Dampf ablassen müssen. Wenn wir uns das nicht erlauben, dann tauche es in Form von Kindesmissbrauch, Wut auf der Staße, Schießereien in Schulen..., auf. Wir seien hergerichtet, um Gefahr, Risiko, Chaos davon zu laufen - all den Dingen, die den Charakter prägen. Stattdessen hätten wir Filme und Videospiele, durch die wir das alles sicher und risikofrei erleben können. Somit können wir unsere Emotionen ausleben die uns erlaubten, hart zu Arbeiten, Kinder zu haben und immer mehr Blödsinn zu kaufen. Es scheint, dass das Geld die am besten ausgezeichneten Bücher, Kinofilme, Magazine, TV Shows jage, die das größte Publikum durch das Anbieten bequemer, höflicher, gleichgültiger und mitleidischen Ablenkung und Belustigung ersuche. So verlieren wir nicht nur das recht anstößig zu sein sondern auch das Recht beleidigt zu werden. So verlieren wir die Stärke, das kommt, wenn uns etwas verletzt oder beleidigt. Wir müssen komfortabler und akzeptabler für das Chaos werden, und Dinge, die wir als verhängnisvoll betrachten. Nur durch diese Dinge können wir ausgeglichen und verändert werden. Wir sollten die Katastrophe und Dingen, vor denen wir normalerweise davon laufen, willkommen heißen. Dort ist eine Erfüllung erreichbar, die nirgendwo sonst erreichtbar ist.
leonardshelby
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Yeah but sorry I can't read gibberish monkey talk--I mean... German.

Oops.

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lol

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by willtupper [/i]
[B]Either that or he's got more than one phone line.

THINK BEFORE YOU POST, LITTLE MAN.

Unless you're me and kl0pper. Wink [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey, I didn't know that it was based on phone lines. I thought it was... I dunno.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by decalogue [/i]
[B]I entered his name in Google and learned this: [/B][/QUOTE]

Translation!:!:!:!:!:!:

Born and grown up in port country (Oregon / Washington). It buildup in a camper. It studied journalism at the university of Oregon, found however no work following began it teachings as a mechanic for full trailer combinations. Holds however despite his successes to his daily job, which it exercises for 13 years. With the full trailer combinations is in the true sense of the word in contact with the fruits of his work. Its grandparents of paternal Seits came from the Ukraine, which Paula and nod were called. From this the name became Palahniuk. When it the first time at their gravestones was, and understood, which their names were, it had to take itself strongly together, in order not to laugh. Its novels contain black humor - are satires. It left essays dearest. It originates from the nihilistic (rejecting) generation. He sees himself as a loser. Workaholic. It is important to it, without being able to write justification. It was told to it that 85% all Prosadichtung are sold to older Mrs. middle age. It did not want to write for men, in order to bring it to reading back, for those, which already read. A reason why do not read men: Books do not serve them. It is to be written at the time books, to men is useful. It wrote so far 2 books: " Fight club ", " Surviver " --> gewaltaetige books its 3. Book: " invisible one of monster " --> sexual book this book concerns their face over a woman, by a shot was verunstaltet and a man, who would like to change its sex. Before it wrote its book, it investigated very much. For Palahniuk dragees Queens are out. For women beauty is the first way to power looked at themselves mode of magazines and stated that 99% of all Mrs. the things are not. And with a certain age or weight women for the society are invisible and powerless. But they develop a new type of power. The novel concerns over a type of the power, which beyond the beauty as if pour to power is situated. Structure of the novel --> approximation to a fashion journal, Parodie to the mode language. He suffers sometimes from bad sleeplessness. While it told itself such a sleeplessness the history of the Fight club. The merry at a sleeplessness is: One is situated for 1-2 hours in an easy sleep, a type Delierium, and if one wakes up, one asks oneself whether one slept at all. Destroys the reality such a thing for one while, because one does not know then whether it was a dream. However has no influence on his cognitive abilities. It feels then free and from its comfort is separated. He is then in a Trance state filled with much workstation in which he its ideas has. Then meet it also with its connections. If it do not write, then sleep it quite well. Everything, up to the Fight club is based on real things. In former times he operates as a freiwilliger in a Hospiz as a protection companion. It brought the people each night always into the groups of self-helps and sat down segregates to the delimitation and brought the people after the meeting again back into the Hospiz. He was guiltily, healthy in a group after the other one to sit - " the tourist ". Thus he began to think about which would be, if itself adjusted. The idea for the Fight club: It was on a camping Trip. Other people, which sews in its camped, wanted to make the whole nights long for drinking and party. It tried it to place for one night calmly and it flogged it. Thus strike and badly looking, returned he to the work. And it looked still three months long terriblly. But the people would not admit that that. It made out is thorax to look and say for " you this weekend what? Irgenwas merry?" "Ich was as..., man, schau me in the face. I did not make this weekend anything merry." It detected that if you look only bad enough, which would not like to know people, what you in your spare time made. And they do not want to hear the bad things over you. And the code was it to thus out-watch that nobody would ever ask. That was history behind the Fight club. Palahniuks world view: The male ideal loses its identity. It is to be only earned on it from cash and power. The idea of the Fight club supplies an accessible argument for men around its own efficiency to estimate and develop. Not in order to cause damage to bear but around the wrong. According to its opinion the debt is because of the fact that humans, dying, the war denial. So many people buy things around the fact to hide that they buy things, which hide the fact... We are animals, which eat, sexual intercourse have, maintenance to need, steam to discharge have. If we do not take the liberty that, then emerge it in the form of child abuse, rage on the Stasse, shootings in schools.... We are prepared, in order to run danger, risk, chaos of it - all the things, which coin/shape the character.

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did ya' use your magic decoder ring on that one xchuck?

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I've still got mine from the Little Orphan Annie Secret Society. "Don't...forget...to drink...your...Ovaltine. A crummy commerical? Son of a bitch."

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And to post on subject, that is really creepy that for the right price somebody could get a hold of all sorts of court stuff and private addresses and even roommates. Endless possibilities with that kind of information. I suppose if it's public knowledge though, all you'd need to do is go down to the county courthouse or where ever.

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wholly shit that was an awesome movie eh rents, man i wish it was christmas just so i can watch that movie again. i havnt been on the forums in a while, whats new thats going on, rents are you in that place you were gonna go to for the student exchange thinger yet?

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Very near the top of my list of good movies. I love the 24 hours of A Christmas Story on TBS or TNT or something.
No, I'm not in Scotland yet. I'll be moving there this September.
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still, creepy. and suckass that some internet guy is making money from it.

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XChuck propably used one of those instant translating thingys cos that bio very badly done.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rents [/i]
[B]I've still got mine from the Little Orphan Annie Secret Society. "Don't...forget...to drink...your...Ovaltine. A crummy commerical? Son of a bitch." [/B][/QUOTE]

rents, you rock my world.

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anyone here listen to elliot smith?

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by moe.ron [/i]
[B]rents, you rock my world. [/B][/QUOTE]

And you, mine.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by knoxville [/i]
[B]anyone here listen to elliot smith? [/B][/QUOTE]

way to stay on subject, knox. Yeah, a little bit. My favorite song of his is "Needle in the Hay" off of the Royal Tenenbaums soundtrack.

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is Chuck's name really Charles Michael??

please, i need to know. i'm working on a very important research paper.

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