Help with an Essay

what's your working definition of existentialism

(everybody has a different interpretation..i know i did)

none really, just the borad common themes. Give me whatever you got, whoever's work your basing

when is it due?

4 days from now. just anything man. no offense, but get to the goods.

Don't know if this helps as you are doing work on existentialism and fight club, but I had an ingenious idea to put the words "existentialism fight club" in my search engine and amazingly enough there are hundreds of results.. some from this very site... like this for instance, titled "existentialism in fight club":

[url]http://srd.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=existentialism+fight+club/v=2/SID=w/l=WS1/R=6/H=0/*-http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/fan/thecult/papers/existentialism_in_fight_club.htm[/url]

Not sure things could be much easier than that...

i dont get how he couldnt have done that

see i need YOUR working definition of it
try narrowing down your scope or else it'll seem jumbled and scattered..and NO OFFENSE>.but i'm doing your work

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B]i dont get how he couldnt have done that [/B][/QUOTE]

Point is, he could have. There's a huge difference in just being being lazy and just wanting others to do it for you...

exactly

that's why i went straight to bed instead of waiting around to help out when i heard he hasnt started yet..it's one thing to be stuck on something once you've tried..and it's anthter not to do anythign and have it done for you

i mean i always write hours before it's due, but i always research and think about the topic when it's handed out. just that i get so absorbed with the topic that i have it written in my head and cnat create the same sort of enthusiasm until forced (aka the deadline)

and another thing..

one of my sister;s friend used to do homework for his girlfriend all the time. he lives in taiwan, his girlfriend's in seattle..yet she asks him to do her shit all the time. even her brother asks him to do research papers. and one time, he was doing a physics assignment for the brother, while he goes out to play basketball, he was scolded at by the brother because he didnt do it exactly the way the brother had wanted it.. i mean wtf?

this sort of reminds me of it...with the whole "no offense get to work" bit

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B]and another thing..

one of my sister;s friend used to do homework for his girlfriend all the time. he lives in taiwan, his girlfriend's in seattle..yet she asks him to do her shit all the time. even her brother asks him to do research papers. and one time, he was doing a physics assignment for the brother, while he goes out to play basketball, he was scolded at by the brother because he didnt do it exactly the way the brother had wanted it.. i mean wtf?

this sort of reminds me of it...with the whole "no offense get to work" bit [/B][/QUOTE]

I admit it. In college I had smart girlfriends do homework for me on occasion, but I was basically taking advantage of them and we both knew it and we still had a great time together anyway. I even remember whole fraternities that had their "sister" sorority chapters doing paperwork and typing for them. Like some kind of hazing ritual or connecting thing, of course fraternal communities often work that way, incorporating sororities with fraternities of course, in hazing rituals, etc...

And really your example is classic. I knew people like this. People who had others do their work then got mad when it wasn't done right. To a certain extent it makes sense, and to another extent it's your own damn fault for not doing it yourself. Either way, I much prefer doing any work that's gonna involve my name on the end result... basic survival skill i guess...

On a side note, I don't get how anyone can be in any kind of "relationship" if one person lives on another continent, but hey, that's just me and I don't get long-distance relationships, probably because everyone I've ever had involved us both seeing other people who were much closer. Maybe it's some kind of "true love" thing, which would explain why I don't believe in it either...

well the relationship fell apart. she was a bitch and he's not. she was too demanding..and he was a pushover. her family always talks to pressure him (into marrying the chick) so he talked to his parents and they were like "to hell with it..FINE"...but when he sat the girl's parents down. they got scared off. so he wrote her a letter telling her to bascially leave him alone ...cause she pulled him through hell long enough. the problem with the girl's family is that they want her to marry rich. she was breed to marry rich (i hate thosse breeds...it makes me look bad..me as in woman..or me as a human). they started out in taiwan and then she went off to "study". apparently her family brags about her going to u of seattle when she really goes to some bullshit college.

i hate it when that happens when people complain when all you wanted to do is help them? very unappreciative.

i used to do stuff for people for a fee...lol..they offerred to pay so heck..sure. back in grade 9 art, this guy paid me to do this assignment and all he wanted was a 70..it only took me 5 mins and i got 50 bucks for it (all funds in cdn).

i usually help people out with their work..cause it's just another chance for me to learn...i mean education is for yourself..so if they dont want to learn..fine..but i dont want to miss out.

i used to write all these papers and people woudl copy them. if they want to not learn go ahead, because it's their loss

and i dont get the frat thing. i think of it as desperate people who want to belong and to reinforce that belonging.

we have a frat and a soroity on campus and boy are they secretive. i think we canucks are very anti the whole thing. u of toronto have 3 frats and they are no where as roudy as the stereotypical american chapters

my housemates next year want to turn our house into a stats frat house. gamma gamma gamma
(gamma distribution)...they also wanted to have this gigantic painting of our prof in the basement...i gagged on my lunch...almost choked to death

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B]well the relationship fell apart. she was a bitch and he's not. she was too demanding..and he was a pushover. her family always talks to pressure him (into marrying the chick) so he talked to his parents and they were like "to hell with it..FINE"...but when he sat the girl's parents down. they got scared off. so he wrote her a letter telling her to bascially leave him alone ...cause she pulled him through hell long enough. the problem with the girl's family is that they want her to marry rich. she was breed to marry rich (i hate thosse breeds...it makes me look bad..me as in woman..or me as a human). they started out in taiwan and then she went off to "study". apparently her family brags about her going to u of seattle when she really goes to some bullshit college.

i hate it when that happens when people complain when all you wanted to do is help them? very unappreciative.

i used to do stuff for people for a fee...lol..they offerred to pay so heck..sure. back in grade 9 art, this guy paid me to do this assignment and all he wanted was a 70..it only took me 5 mins and i got 50 bucks for it (all funds in cdn).

i usually help people out with their work..cause it's just another chance for me to learn...i mean education is for yourself..so if they dont want to learn..fine..but i dont want to miss out.

i used to write all these papers and people woudl copy them. if they want to not learn go ahead, because it's their loss

and i dont get the frat thing. i think of it as desperate people who want to belong and to reinforce that belonging.

we have a frat and a soroity on campus and boy are they secretive. i think we canucks are very anti the whole thing. u of toronto have 3 frats and they are no where as roudy as the stereotypical american chapters

my housemates next year want to turn our house into a stats frat house. gamma gamma gamma
(gamma distribution)...they also wanted to have this gigantic painting of our prof in the basement...i gagged on my lunch...almost choked to death [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't know about other people, but when I first went to college, I knew very few people and was much different than I am today, so I took after my older brother and joined his frat. Funnily enough I was the only white person in the frat as it was comprised of pacific islanders and Samoans mainly, but they knew my brother and things went well. One of the main reasons at the time I joined also was that I was very young and was not of legal age, and well being in a fraternity means booze, legal or not, so that was a perk. This did not last long as i went into the military after a few semesters, then finished college after the military, but otherwise, it had its moments...

I too have done others work for them, but I don't work cheap, and money or not, I get paid somehow... this is true of ex-girlfriends as well. Hell, we live in a society that barters. This includes relationships. Sex is to money is to favors is to whatever. We buy and sell people and services everyday...

I thought tri-gamma was in revenge of the nerds... I forget... or maybe animal house... tri lambda maybe? Anyhow, it sounds like you are already in a sort of sorority living in a house with other females... probably by some rules... probably with things done together... a horse by another name...

It was an experience, plain and simple. I find much at fault with the entire system today, but it does serve a purpose. Hazing rituals were interesting and all that went along with living in a big house with a bunch of other dudes all trying to get laid and party 24/7, but overall my time in college later on was much better spent actually learning, instead of just getting my ass to class and making sure I passed. It was as if my first stint in college was just to be there, and the second involved an actual desire to learn... which I'm sure was as a result of maturing over the course of some years...

Marrying money... now that's an interesting thing. I'm sure most of us would, male or female, if it fell into our laps. My ex married me and I had lots of my own cash, while she was just in a rich family. Things fell apart after some time for reasons other than money, but believe me, it is better to have money than not to have money... especially in a relationship, as it alleviates much of the stress that families face...

People are always gonna complain, no matter whether it's your fault or their own. Fact of life. I've learned that it is better to realize that other people get just as frustrated as you do, no matter how seemingly impossible that may seem... meaning only that it's easier to not realize your own anger than it is to notice someone else's...

it is true that we tend to overly emotionalize feelings and that it IS easier to recognize others at fault rather than you being at fault. i think i have been fortunate to be able to see things from all angles..meaning i have no problems in recognizing and admitting my own faults..that IS if i am at fault. in fact, i hardly loose my temper at all. i have high tolerance level and on my trip back to taiwan..,i was horrified at my sister's temper..but maybe it's the wedding or soemthing, but sigh...she's one of those who explodes on anyone and then forgets about it. i am more of a "keep it on in" and keep the innocent bystanders innocent. maybe it's more hazardous to my health...

marrying for money? i hate it when my friends talk about what they're looking for in men. mostly MONEY. i mean money is one thing, but pseudo happiness is another. i hate to be label as another anna nicole smith. but that is just an extreme example. sure, with enough money, you can be happy..or at least think you are happy. but to marry just for the money is, at least to me...being naive and all, is wrong. it sort of reminds me of arrange marriages.... marry now, love later. what if you never find that quality to make you love them? would you be stuck in a loveless marriage? or would that nightly rolling around in piles of money bar you from that eternal insatiable passion..for love..or money? (bad movie by the way)

no gamma gamma gamma (or tri gamma..but it sounds better and stupider as gamma gamma gamma) is just talks...and i sincerely hope it's all talks. and no it's not a sorotiy. and it's not an all girls thing. basically friends gotten together and rented a house (cheap too..student ghetto). 3 gurls and 2 guys.

rules? i dont know...as long as they let me hold cast parties..i'm happy. it's a nice house to hold parties...huge living room. before i was so looking forward to it..cause all my theatre and film friends live across the street (they asked me to live with them next year..but i've already said yes to the peope who i;'m living with...) and since they couldnt get enough people together...i cannot have movie nights... this really sucks cause they are moving so far far away (well 10 mins walk in a different direction)

i am different than everyone (at least i hope i am), but it is until til this feb that i really found my groove (theatre and film friends)...but it really is too bad that they are all graduating. and there are not a lot of 2nd/3rd year theatre and film people..so the cycle continues again. but oddly, well maybe not so oddly, after the whole theatre friend thing, i find it harder and harder to relate to my high school friends (all asian). they think i'm white. oh well...who gives

oh and that whole military thing? what's with cauasians and that (well you're like the 10th person i know who's done or doing the military thing...yes i know it's a small sample size that represents nothing..but it's just weird). a lot of taiwanese people while all asians i guess...avoid the whole military thing cause a lot of them immigrated here to avoid conscription

oh the horror stories of doing your mandatory 2 years in taiwanese military...

I guess I tend to see fraternities as merely another clicque... ya know, like jocks and stoners and dweebs and all of those other Ferris Bueller-ism's. That is to say that a group of punks is the same as a group of rednecks or mods or whatever... just different aesthetic taste and choice of mentality. But then again, college is like real life and real life is like high school. People tend to stick with one particular crowd, this crowd may be somewhat diverse but generally like-minded individuals stick with other like-minded individuals... same goes for any group of people whether it's based on race, creed, activity, etc...

.. by rules, i only meant that if you trashed the place or treated everyone shitty, no matter how much rent or whatever you paid, you'd probably be voted out the house, to use a television term...

I don't think marrying for money is any better than marrying for love... or any worse for that matter. Money just alleviates financial woes, which can cause emotional turmoil in a relationship. Often marrying for money is about truth. Some people don't believe in love, and to them marrying for money or stability or any other reason than love is the truth. Also one must consider that people who have money and marry someone who doesn't must realize to some extent that maybe love isn't why this person is with them. Sure, love may be why, but the money never hurts, and I would bet that many people who have lots and lots of money are very lonely, and maybe this loneliness could lead them to compromise trading off money to not be alone anymore... and if this means ignoring the facts and assuming they love you, why not lie to yourself? Why not remain oblivious and imagine that love is the answer and the be all and end all, even if it is not. This of course also boils down to romanticism and realism, but in the end, any relationship is what you make of it. I believe that true love, as I perceive it, doesn't have to be mutual and most times is not. You can truly love someone and they may never love you back. That's life. Rare is the case that things turn out otherwise...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B]oh and that whole military thing? what's with cauasians and that (well you're like the 10th person i know who's done or doing the military thing...yes i know it's a small sample size that represents nothing..but it's just weird). a lot of taiwanese people while all asians i guess...avoid the whole military thing cause a lot of them immigrated here to avoid conscription

oh the horror stories of doing your mandatory 2 years in taiwanese military... [/B][/QUOTE]

Well I remember my entire first platoon in The Corp was comprised of mostly hispanic and black people. There were only three white guys, myself included. Our drill instructor, Staff Sergeant Love [I always liked his name] was also black and a mean sumbitch. Then again I went to boot camp in San Diego, California and many of the recruits all over the base were from the West Coast and many different backgrounds. In fact, the military is actually made up of many minorites as it offers a way to get out of low-income backgrounds, and much of the recruiting comes from lower-class or middle-class families. In other words, not as many rich people join the military, instead choosing college or whatever. Personally I joined the military because I truly believed in dying for my country and my father and grandfather had been in before me. It was sort of like I didn't think much about the why's or the what for's... I just did it because it seemed like the right thing to do. I also never questioned things much and learned to do so while I served. Much like a fraternity or any job, it was just another experience in my life. I see nothing wrong with trying various things in life and think one should try as many things as possible while you can, because even if it turns out bad, there is always something to be learned and gained...

the romanticism vs realism theme reminds of of that piviotal scene in washington square (i'm sorry i cant read that book...i avoid that era all together). the female character is ugly, while her suitor is beautiful. foolishly in love, the female gave up all her money just so she can be with the boy. she has no clue that the beatiful boy was only after her for the money. upon learnign what she did, he blurted "you've got the money, i've got the looks..it's a fair trade"

yes love is all lovely dovey bull. and that it can blind us from the truth. this is somethign that i have struggled with all the time. logic over emotions. usually logic wins. i rather be clear minded than to be in love and to be muddled with feelings that i have no control over (although sometimes i foolishly believe that i am higher than human nature and that i am able to control it...but reallyu deep down i know it's all an illusion).

i think one of the real ways of knowing if a person is after your money is not to disclose it at all. but then again the person might be pissed when finding it out...as if you lied to them. but really..it's more of a protective instinct.

stability is indeed a far better factor than say..the instable nature of love (feelings are often fickle). but ...to marry without love is ...for a lack of a better word..wrong. but then again, i dont believe in marriages. why contract (using it as a verb..lol) your love for another. isnt knowing enough? yes it is the naive me talking beacsue it seems like once you reached a certain age...it comes knocking and you know that singlehood is up. but really...well at least under cdn laws..if you live together with someone for 3 years or more, you have the same rights as a married couple. isnt this enough? i think so? perhaps i am a committmentophobe. i broke out in a fever when this guy told me he likes me. i puked when my sister and my mom tried to hook me up with someone. i guess i am freespirited and do not ever want to be tied down.

yes cliques are cliques..we hang in them because we share common interests..i used to be a floater in highschool..well the early parts..i was able to go from groups to groups and they all accepted me..but later on i realized its more important to me to have close firends rahter than acquintances.

in terms of joining the miltary beucase it's the right thing to do...yes my friends in the miltary feel the same way. they think to not die for your country is leechlike. i disagree. i think there are other ways to give back to your country other than physicaly. well, only one of my military friend is liek that. he is american canadian..,maybe it's the american blood talking. most of my canadian military friends are in the miltary for the experience and that it pays for their education

in taiwan you have to put in your 2 years. people either joined right after highschool if they are not university bound..or go after they graduated. my brother in law, being a scholar (he's an assistant prof right now), he went in after university. so he was stucked and ordered around by kids, and with men with big scary tattoos (triad, mafia, yakuza..whatever you called it)...it was the most awful experience ever..being accused of things you've never doen and all the gruelling experiences. oh that he was in the marines too..and unlike the US marines, it was something you dont want to be in. US marines are the best of the best..while in taiwan..they are maltreated and so damn tough that no one wants to be in it. (oh and there are politics involveed..but i never got that). it was only until he got tb (he was fully cured) that military thing was enjoyable cause he was on a sick leave..basically sitting in a hospital and do nothing but study for his gmat. so he only did half a year out of the 2 years

Shit Brock, no wonder we are having bandwidth problems.

Yes... you guessed it Dark Tony. It is all my fault that we have bandwidth problems. In fact, bandwidth was never an issue until I showed up on this site. I am the king of bandwidth failure. In fact my middle name is "bandwidth failure". That is my job, you know... to go on various randomly selected sites and create bandwidth problems in as quick a manner as is possible. Don't blame the other 2,000+ members on the site or the other people with more than 4 times as many posts than me and much higher daily post averages... no... that would be uncalled for, as I am the culprit, I have been found out, a traitor is in my midst and has spread the word of my chagrinery. It is me, not you Tony, who should be hanging on that cross... a sacrifice shed for my people. It is not the Canadians at fault here although the Canadians love to ruffle feathers so... but nay I say... it is the American infidel that creates this behemoth monstrosity of ill-conceived fission. Santa Jesus would become vengeance had he known that i existed. When I was cast out of the heavens and sent down to rain terror upon all bandwidthian souls, it was the dawning of another era, an era of server errors and bandwidth clusterfucks... nay, it was more sentient and more evil than any mere mortal could imagine. It was downright naughty... shame on me, shame shame shame... I've been a bad boy... I think to myself, whilst waiting for the well-deserved spanking to take place across my mother's swollen thighs. Her heaving bosom hanging like lead across my back as the sting of her palm makes me bum all hurty and stuff. I am the demonseed, no demon spawn... split-pea soup flows from my nostrils and I walk like a spider on ceilings so musty and mildued. Call the exorcist please. Perhaps he can answer this eternal rhetorical statement... "shit brock... no wonder we have bandwidth problems..." perhaps a man of the cloth could figure out why it is Brock's fault when he responded with no more words than the person he was responding to. How odd this occurence. Like a sheep's butt on a hazy day high atop the Scottish highlands... part of my bandwidth fucking training included reading all of Chuck Palahniuk's books so I could fit in with my knowledge of the site's namesake. It is not just a huge conspiracy. I trained months to bring down the bandwidth.

wholly shit your analytical man. rather than wite a friggin essay just tell him to piss off.

im still down with you tho tony

i don't believe i can contribute anything positive to this thread. i am too busy experiencing my life to care.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by framstedt [/i]
[B]i don't believe i can contribute anything positive to this thread. i am too busy experiencing my life to care. [/B][/QUOTE]

... and I *really* believe this statement because you took the time out from experiencing life to care enough to post said statement... face it, sharing is caring, and all those other colloquillisms... [not even sure what colloquillisms means, but I like it]

this is my life, brock. i thought you knew that.

brock..you make me laugh...in a good way of course

and no ..nto all canucks like to ruffle feathers (points to self..but then again i'm a hypenated cdn so maybe i am an exception to the rule)

frammy..stop faking apathy..we know it's all an act
*whip ready to strike...frammy...brock ...behold the psuedo-wrath of SU

apathetic? no, hardly. cynical, yes, most certainly. decidedly, in fact.

yes...i can be cynical too..
but everythign in moderation right?

or i might be schizo...