glued to the tv. anti war broadcasters

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I may be alone on this one, but I find myself thinking, during all the televised efforts of every channel trying to get the "just in" stories, the breaking news of the war, there has to be something better to do with my time.
i also feel inspired along with fear, and that seems to spark creativity. it goes to a restless level that I don't think is normal for me.
also, i am obsessed with the news and don't want to be. i sit with a remote control, switching from cnn to whatever else is on. it's almost like not blinking. there aren't any commercials on these channels... they're affraid you'll miss something!!!
Anyway, i was curious to see if anyone else has accomplished or been inspired in some way or other during this "bombs over baghdad" ordeal?

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well, if you like this season's highest rated show, errrrr... i mean war, then have no fear!
this is only one step for a broader plan involving north korea and eventually more of the world. not that i'm that worried. or maybe i'm just a little desensitized and apathetic to what i'm seeing.
or maybe i've just been watching the news for too long.

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I was watching the news when a reporter was in that hotel they're always in on CNN and they were getting bombed, not the huge one, it was just a few. It was the strangest feeling, I felt so bad for that reporter, not being able to imagine how scared I'd be if I was there.

I wanted to see the big bombing live, but I had to go to work like five minutes before it happened.

The reasoning? it's real, and horrible...It's interesting to hear the *real* reactions of the reporters, not what they think sounds best, or what people want to hear. I don't like watching fake people, i like watching people when they're too damn scared to care what they say, or they don't know they're being watched.

I got such a horrible feeling when I first heard of the bombing when they thought they got Saddam, everyone waiting for all the rest of the missiles and bombs to come in. I wanted that feeling again for some reason, while it was happening knowing all those people are down there, even though you can't see them.

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[QUOTE]I was watching the news when a reporter was in that hotel they're always in on CNN and they were getting bombed, not the huge one, it was just a few. It was the strangest feeling, I felt so bad for that reporter, not being able to imagine how scared I'd be if I was there.

The reasoning? it's real, and horrible...It's interesting to hear the *real* reactions of the reporters, not what they think sounds best, or what people want to hear. I don't like watching fake people, i like watching people when they're too damn scared to care what they say, or they don't know they're being watched.
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i'm a reporter myself. don't feel bad for them--it's their job and they're professionals at it, just like the soldiers who are there.

they are not fake. and if you want to see an international war correspondent completely lose their shit on live TV, you're going to wait a long time. they're simply brave people who do their jobs well. also, it's pretty sick, in my opinion, to sit there waiting to see someone have a nervous breakdown in a stressful situation.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by insomnomaniac [/i]
[B]i'm a reporter myself. [/B][/QUOTE]

who do you report for?

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i'm a city correspondent for the boston globe.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by insomnomaniac [/i]
[B]they are not fake. and if you want to see an international war correspondent completely lose their shit on live TV, you're going to wait a long time. they're simply brave people who do their jobs well. [/B][/QUOTE]

Fake on the news is the reporters who are restricted, or the news channels whose stories are filtered. And fake isn't the right word, I was talking about a lot more than just the news in that post, but didn't want to go on and on. Fake meaning acting - sitcoms.

I like watching people, like walking down the street, when they don't know someone is watching them. (I know someone here knows what I'm talking about because you've mentioned this before). They're real.

[QUOTE][B]also, it's pretty sick, in my opinion, to sit there waiting to see someone have a nervous breakdown in a stressful situation. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's not what I said. The human body and mind is completely amazing to me. Emotions are beautiful, whether it's happiness or sadness (notice the similarities in their expression) or whatever. (Why do you think I majored in psychology...? Smile)

It's not like I want something bad to happen to someone so I can see it...I'm not going to shoot someone in the foot to watch them cry. By watching this, when you hear the fear in the reporters voice and the gigantic explosions that white out the entire screen...it reminds you that this is really happening. It isn't a movie, and there are real people there getting hurt. This seems glazed over by the constant commentary on the news, that's why I wanted to watch it then.

When they played the recording of a some call during the Sept.11 attacks, my eyes filled w/ tears and I was frozen, listening. And I felt afraid...granted it wasn't even close to what they were feeling, but still, it affected me. It's amazing how things that are happening so far away can still have that intensity (even so far away in time..the recording was months/years after 9-11).

I don't want to take things for granted, which is easy to do. And getting caught up in my own life, forgetting other people exist is a horrible feeling.

And I want to experience life. All of it.

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ok, i misunderstood. it's good to be able to find beauty in the hideous.

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Since you're a reporter, you shouldn't take anything I say personally. I completely respect anyone in the media who is doing their job - getting information to people.

Our local televison news, and some of the cable news channels are obviously biased. Since when is American Idol a story for the 10:00 news? Right...it was on Fox local channel, and it was a COMMERCIAL not a story. It's annoying

If I say something about the media and just use a generalized term...you should know I don't mean you (I seriously doubt you're like this) or anyone who's doing their job right.

It's similar to the generalization of hating all things American because of this war...instead of realizing only the government is like this, not most of the citizens.

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i'll take whatever i want personally. just because i'm a reporter doesn't mean i'm not a human being. we're still allowed to have feelings. we just can't write about them in our news coverage. and this particular issue really burns me because all of us at least in my newsroom work incredibly hard to make things impartial, which is very difficult, especially at a time like this. so when ppl accuse us of being biased, it's the worst accusation you can make.

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I know we agreed to disagree, but let me try to clarify the criticism. I don't (and I hope others aren't) referring to reporters when they are criticizing the media. There are many reporters who do excellent jobs. I very much respect reporters because if it weren't for you guys, we would all be uninformed morons. Plus, it is inevitable that some emotion may sneak into a report. If it didn't, thats when I would be concerned (we are all human after all). What I am criticizing is the owners of corporate owned media. I am going to pick on Fox News again because they are the easiest, but everytime I turn on that channel, they are glorifying the war. Another example: MSNBC had the countdown clock. All this serves to do is turn the media into entertainment instead of a source of information.

Let me stop before I continue rambling incoherently. In short, I am not criticizing individual reporters, I am however criticizing how the news services are run and executed.

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I know these are some of the things they teach in journalism classes, but I'm too ignorant to put a theory to it... Anyway, ideas are stronger than information, or to put it scientifically (in a completely half-assed way) the carrier wave always has an effect on the information used to modulate it. Some executives prefer more squelch than others.

Like that makes any fucking sense.

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i gotta say that sometimes it's just funny.
i'm not so sure if the reporters that are in iraq requested it or if they were volunteered. if so, that's kinda shitty.
but if they asked to be there, they should be shaved heads and out of the way. i don't think we need the pictures that we get.. where they are and all seems to be somewhat of a give away to the other side.
i think the funniest thing i've heard so far was one guy sitting in the cnn office in america told a reporter in iraq, via whatever, when the reporter said he felt safe from the chemicals with his gas mask equiped, the sitting desk guy said, oh if there were chemical attacks, one touch to your skin and you'd be dead on the ground... something like that.. and the fucker smirked and asked more questions.
i have no points, except, journalism or reporting or whatever, can be damn right fucked up.
it's almost like smiling and reporting a war should be against the law. something like that.
this is twopenny kenny, signing off.
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point taken, DNT.

[QUOTE]i don't think we need the pictures that we get.. where they are and all seems to be somewhat of a give away to the other side.
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sad thing is we could get those pictures with remote satellite cameras mounted on buildings in baghdad. we don't need a correspondent on the TV at all, really.

as for the giveaway stuff, i think jon stewart said it best when he said, (i paraphrase) "we can tell everyone in the world on international TV exactly when, where and how we're going to attack. now THAT'S a strong military."

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it's almost like smiling and reporting a war should be against the law. something like that.
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yeah but when you're risking your life to do your job, a little gallows humor helps.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by insomnomaniac [/i]
[B]i'll take whatever i want personally. just because i'm a reporter doesn't mean i'm not a human being. we're still allowed to have feelings. we just can't write about them in our news coverage. and this particular issue really burns me because all of us at least in my newsroom work incredibly hard to make things impartial, which is very difficult, especially at a time like this. so when ppl accuse us of being biased, it's the worst accusation you can make. [/B][/QUOTE]

ok...i was saying that because anytime I'm talking about the news, I'm talking about CABLE NEWS CHANNELS especially Fox. And what makes me mad is that they're so influenced by money and sponsors. (Again...American Idol is NOT a news story)

I was saying this because I'm NOT talking about you...or anyone who DOES THEIR JOB vs. those just getting paid. I may just say the news, or media as a generalization of what I don't like...not meaning everyone in that profession.

and then it isn't the reporters or the anchors that i can't stand, it's those who are running everything, deciding what the anchors say and what goes on the air.

by biased, I mean whoever their sponsors are determines what stories they run. not by not putting their feelings into the stories. I'm talking about money. And if that's not what you do...then I'm not talking about you...therefore, you shouldn't take it personally.

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oh, it's so darned easy to get what's typed on a computer missunderstood.
i found out recently that they dragged most of the reporters away from the war area. gee... why did they do that? Smile Big

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they started playing that terrible "and i'm proud to be an american" country song on a lot of radio stations lately, you know the one that made it's big dedut in the first gulf war. i nearly lost a radio due to that song last night.

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that song would be so much better if it had the singer from southpark's music... that guys voice kicks ass. hehe Smile Big more people would have pride then, too. maybe?
get a baseball bat. don't hurt your foot. bats break stuff cooler!!

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using a bat is like using a gun, yea it does an effective job, but there's no satisfaction in doing it yourself.

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yeah. hitting something until your knuckles bleed is a pretty awesome personal experience. I'm a bleeder. punching stuff is fun, but when i see others get hurt, my heart goes out. now if you hurt an object, you should atleast have to common courtesy to video tape it.
show and tell, nigga, show and tell!!!!!

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why are they allowed to play that song on the radio, yet when another group *cough*DixieChix*cough* expresses their own [I]opinion[/I] that is not exactly "patriotic" they get banned from brodcast? hmm? yea, don't expound upon that please, no more polotics for me.

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i think craig kilborn said it best:

"The Dixie Chicks insulted President Bush at a concert and now DJs all over the country refuse to play their music. Here's my question: Can we get all country singers to insult President Bush?"

hee. i kid, i kid.

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its a mad world

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well it's a world that makes me mad, certainly.

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if the word "junk" meant nut sack, and to "kick" means swing your foot and make contact with your aimed location... how about you just kick the world in the junk? Smile Big
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ive tried to ignore the 'horseshit on 10 channels show' by watching nothing but Invader Zim. and its working.

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i've been leaving the house..... alot. but when the door shuts behind me, boy howdy, i'm turning on cnnnnnnnnn and hating myself in the morning. Smile Big

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Hmmm, watching Bush & Blair give their little press conference...

Blair is talking like he's got a gun to his head.
And Bush seemed to get pissed off when they were asking why former allies weren't with us if we had such noble goals. He's like "We've got PLENTY of allies! I mean, you want me to name them? We've got.. we've got.. want me to go get the list? I mean we've got more than we had last time, in terms of nation's involved."

Haha... Man.. He couldn't name any. =D

But he's getting kind of flustered and Blair.. Oh my gosh.. Is he always like this? He's getting pretty emotional and stutter-ish... He looks like he's about to shit his pants. For serious...

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bush talks at those press conferences like he's talking to a bunch of little kids. he talks like he's your dad, and you're about to get grounded. it's pretty annoying given his IQ is a fraction of most other people's.

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