Flu Shot Triggers Neurological Disorder

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What. The. Hell.

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dude, thats so sad. I really feel for her. but whats weird is how it shows the black couple and it says its home video of her...then shows the picture of her and shes white. Then at a bit past one minute, the reporter calls her rachel

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Jesus that made me feel horrible.

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That is the most interesting and fucked up neurological disorder ever.

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Yeah, I saw that video too Tony. the remix one.

This is the reason I refuse to get the swine flu shot. Months ago, i happened across an article that talked about how the government had release a letter to doctors, warning for the possibility of increased cases of Guillan barre syndrome, which is where your immune system attacks your nervous system.

From that moment on, I knew I wouldn't be getting the vaccine.

Fuck
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OMG H1N1 IS A CONSPIRACY GOVERNMENT SCIENTISTS MADE IT IN A LAB AND SPREAD IT TO GET ENOUGH PEOPLE SICK THAT EVERYONE WOULD GET SCARED AND GET THE VACCINE BUT THE VACCINE IS REALLY A SLOW ACTING POISON THAT WILL WIPE US ALL OUT SO THEY CAN START THE "CLEANSING" AND INTRODUCE A NEW BREED OF SUPERHUMANS.

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hahaha! Not at all what I was implying, but I would rather take the chance of getting the swine flu, considering I've never gotten any kind of flu before, and hardly ever get sick, than risk ending up like that girl, or with a disease that causes my Nervous system to fail.

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You can have something like this happen from any medical procedure. It has nothing to do with the vaccine itself, which the story conveniently leaves out because at some point in the last few years vaccine-deniers have suddenly become a vocal group of nutbags.

It sucks to be her, but something like this could end up happening to you from going to the dentist.

Also, how many times do they have to tell you that she's beautiful. Big fucking deal. In fact, I think the story is more tragic if the person this happens to didn't have the whole popular, beautiful cheerleader thing going for her.

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mikerocuts wrote:
the reporter calls her rachel

He doesn't call her Rachel.

Man, I feel really bad after watching that damn video.

I wasn't getting any shots to begin with though. Keep ze needles away from me.

Kirk> Thanks a lot, I already did not enjoy going to the dentist! Sad

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no more flu shots for me, holy shit.

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Pfft, good thing I'm lazy and don't get flu shots and already have unmedicated bipolar disorder.

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Kirk wrote:
You can have something like this happen from any medical procedure. It has nothing to do with the vaccine itself, which the story conveniently leaves out because at some point in the last few years vaccine-deniers have suddenly become a vocal group of nutbags.

It sucks to be her, but something like this could end up happening to you from going to the dentist.

Also, how many times do they have to tell you that she's beautiful. Big fucking deal. In fact, I think the story is more tragic if the person this happens to didn't have the whole popular, beautiful cheerleader thing going for her.

One person! I agree with you completely, it drives me crazy. These scare stories come about and then people turn down potentially life saving vaccines for themselves and their babies. The chance of having a serious reaction to one of these shots is practically non-existent.

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spike made me lol

mass hysteria–noun Psychology.

a condition affecting a group of persons, characterized by excitement or anxiety, irrational behavior or beliefs, or inexplicable symptoms of illness.

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how patronising to have some guy repeating every sentence back to you as well.

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I'm such a cynic....because this looks like a bunch of bullshit to me.

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I've never gotten a flu shot, and hey! I'm still here and have never had the flu. If there's a chance of something like that happening...why the hell would you get one?

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188416 wrote:
Kirk wrote:
You can have something like this happen from any medical procedure. It has nothing to do with the vaccine itself, which the story conveniently leaves out because at some point in the last few years vaccine-deniers have suddenly become a vocal group of nutbags.

It sucks to be her, but something like this could end up happening to you from going to the dentist.

Also, how many times do they have to tell you that she's beautiful. Big fucking deal. In fact, I think the story is more tragic if the person this happens to didn't have the whole popular, beautiful cheerleader thing going for her.

One person! I agree with you completely, it drives me crazy. These scare stories come about and then people turn down potentially life saving vaccines for themselves and their babies. The chance of having a serious reaction to one of these shots is practically non-existent.

I never get vaccines if I can help it. It's a personal choice. Within a few hours of getting a booster shot, ANY shot, I'm puking out my innards and am running a raging fever. Been like that my whole life. Am I anti-vaccine? Not necessarily. Knowing that I have adverse reactions to them, will I be overly wary about randomly dosing my kids? Absolutely.

I got the flu shot for the first and only time three years ago, when I was working at a daycare. I got the flu TWICE that winter.

Also they've really been pushing that Gardasil shot here in the states, the one that's supposed to prevent HPV in women. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that says it's unsafe, and my roommate (who's in nursing school) says that there's a growing idea that the FDA allowed it to come on the market way too fast.

So, no, I think Jenny McCarthy and her "shots gave my kid autism!" stuff is retarded, but I definitely have a healthy dose of skepticism when it comes to vaccinations, as I think everybody should.

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Because there is also the chance you could die from the flu.

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Because there is also the chance you could die from the flu.
* shoulda quoted. shit.
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Kirk wrote:
You can have something like this happen from any medical procedure. It has nothing to do with the vaccine itself, which the story conveniently leaves out because at some point in the last few years vaccine-deniers have suddenly become a vocal group of nutbags.

It sucks to be her, but something like this could end up happening to you from going to the dentist.

Also, how many times do they have to tell you that she's beautiful. Big fucking deal. In fact, I think the story is more tragic if the person this happens to didn't have the whole popular, beautiful cheerleader thing going for her.

I agree man. It's a real tragedy for this to happen to anybody, but it's also pretty sick how this kind of news story gets used by anti-vac maniacs to promote their paranoid nonsense. Especially now, when the northern hemisphere could be on the edge or a particularly nasty flu season.

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red wrote:
Because there is also the chance you could die from the flu.

I don't forget that even for people with a low risk of suffering serious complications, if they don't get the flu shot they're more likely to pass it on to others around them, who could die.

These stories suck because people are naturally crap at thinking realistically about odds and possibilities. They say this is a million-to-one condition. To put that in perspective, get out a stopwatch and time one minute...then wait one year and eleven months. That's 'one in a million'.

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Especially if it DOES end up saving a chunk of the percentage of women who would have otherwise gotten cervical cancer.

According to wikipedia, in the US, the rate of cervical cancer (which is what HPV can cause) is about 3/100,000, and the rate of deaths by Gardasil is about 3.4/100,000. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of evidence that it's helping much at all in a first-world nation that emphasizes safe sex practices.

Individual choice, third-world nations, etc, sure, maybe. I'm just incensed that they're trying to make it mandatory to put this shit into the bodies of girls as young as 9. Plus, isn't it like $400?

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I only got one of the shots because my medicaid ran out before I had a chance to get them all. It made my arm numb for 2 days.

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The most interesting turn of events I've heard of recently due to the ani-vaccine crowd is the resurgence of mumps in certain parts of the UK and America. It was pretty much non-existent as a disease in civilized society, but people got scared of needles and it's making a comeback.

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If people would eat better and exercise more then just being around sick people would be a sort of vaccine. The only reason people are so susceptible to the flu is b/c they do stupid shit like drink orange colored sugar water as a substitute for orange juice. I believe in vaccines for stuff like the measles, but flu vaccines are stupid. Sure, x amount of Americans die from the flu each year, but y amount of Americans don't live healthy lifestyles and y is greater than x. I don't think it's a government conspiracy, I think it's government fear. They want to look like they're doing everything they can so they insist that everyone get vaccinated. They don't want to be held accountable for flu deaths even though they shouldn't be in the first place. So I side with Jane here - if the disease poses a sufficient threat, like mumps, then get the vaccine - if it's the flu, which will just mutate and you'll get in another form, skip it.

Here's an idea that could save more lives than flu vaccines: free health care.

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I'm one of those people that, despite my refusal to get this vaccine, doesn't think that vaccines cause Autism.

Why?

Because I don't think the rate for Autism is nearly as high as they claim it to be. Some girl at work was telling me how autism takes so many different forms, and a person can seem like they don't have it, and I wanted to yell, "BITCH, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T!"
I'm sick and tired of people blaming their poor parenting on a legitimate disease that some children actually have. The good thing about this craze, is the funding for autism research, which will benefit the real sufferers. The down side is that a generation will grow up believing that they have a disorder that they don't have, and using it as a crutch.

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monkeywright wrote:
The most interesting turn of events I've heard of recently due to the ani-vaccine crowd is the resurgence of mumps in certain parts of the UK and America. It was pretty much non-existent as a disease in civilized society, but people got scared of needles and it's making a comeback.

That is the big problem here. Diseases that we had eventually eradicated are making a comeback and killing people, all because some dumbshit doesn't know what they are talking about.

Herd immunization is very important for vaccines to be effective. This way, the few people who aren't immunized don't have anyone to catch it from. When more and more people stop, the diseases can get a foot hold again.

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I'm one of those people that, despite my refusal to get this vaccine, doesn't think that vaccines cause Autism.

Why?

Because I don't think the rate for Autism is nearly as high as they claim it to be. Some girl at work was telling me how autism takes so many different forms, and a person can seem like they don't have it, and I wanted to yell, "BITCH, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T!"
I'm sick and tired of people blaming their poor parenting on a legitimate disease that some children actually have. The good thing about this craze, is the funding for autism research, which will benefit the real sufferers. The down side is that a generation will grow up believing that they have a disorder that they don't have, and using it as a crutch.

One of the big claims from anti-vaxers is that the vaccines contain chemicals that are 'toxic'. Though that is true, what they don't seem to understand is that these chemicals are generally in amounts that are equal or lower to what they are in nature. So if you eat, drink or breathe you're getting the same chemicals in your system.

As for autism, the biggest problem is that over the last few years, the definition of autistic has been broadened, qualifying more kids as 'autistic'. So if you look at the raw numbers, it appears that there is an increase in autism rates when in fact, there isn't.

Then you have the issue where people just don't want to admit that their kid is slow or dumb. I saw an article about a lady who fought hard for her kid's school to qualify her kid as autistic, because she thought it would be easier for him to excel in an autistic program.