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trypdwyre
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Also, Hemingway's drink of choice is absinthe, and he has written said drink into many of his books.

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absinthe rules, dead teddy bear dude with the unpronounceable last name, and you can still find it in france and other parts of weatern europe. definitely an acquired taste. it's gotta be the halucinagenic effects of the juice that got people going so far as to cut their own ears off.

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meaning that not only was hemingway a fan of absinthe, but also Van Gogh?

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you got it, hombre

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E. A. Poe was a absinthe fiend
it shows in his writing.

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i knew he was a drunkard. gotta be the only reason that idiot leaves a bottle of chivas on his tombstone in baltmore every stinkin' all hallows eve. still, the guy got thrown out of west point for showing up for drill wearing only his equipment, no clothes. absinthe high perhaps?

not a bad name for a teen spirited movie, huh? Absinthe High

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any other famous absinthe drinkers?

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not off the top of my head, but i would imagine the writers of the lost generation drank absinthe with regular abandon. i would reckon that dorothy parker drank the stuff, or wish she could.

you? know any other famous drunkards that trebec might showcase under: People who have done STUPID things while intoxicated with absinthe.

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Oscar Wilde partook
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good one. ever see the flick with al finney, a man of no importance? great references to wilde.

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heh yea. here are a few more for you, names that is...
Degas, Toulouse-Lautrec, Picasso and Gauguin all sopposedly were users of absinthe.
[img]http://absinthe.msjekyll.com/images/hand-Absinthe.jpg[/img]

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do you have time for anything other than befouling us with your wisdom. i bow to you, my liege.

TL - can believe it. those avril chicks are out of control. Picasso - yeah, he had bucks and a devoted following. Gaughin, that's a surprise. I thought he choked on some south sea island whacky tabacky.

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who says Gauguin can't do several things at once?
heh.
well see, i'm at work, in a library, so no, right now i don't have much else to do.

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true, i hadn't thought of that cuz i am an incompetent multi-tasker.

do you enjoy papa, or was it the phrase that grabbed your attention?

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love papa. put the quote up because i re-read "For Whom the Bell Tolls" for the Nth time.
Have you read Ford Maddox Ford? Just picked up "The Good Soldier" he has a way of getting you to relate to the main character.
Also am reading "Bringing Down the House" by Ben Mezrich
pretty interesting story about 6 MIT Students who played vegas and took 'em for millions.

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BDTH sounds like a good read. Will have to check it out. I re-read the sun also rises every year. been doing that since i could read. ever submit an entry to the anuual hemmingway contest.

FMF - i think i have the good soldat somewhere, but some of my books are in storage.

If you like ponderous and ingenious storylines, read Georges Perec's Life: A user's manual.

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Catch you later, dead teddy bear dude. Gotta take the 5:20 home to la la land. Feed the dogs, you know.

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marilyn manson is also a partaker of absinthe.

e.a. poe was insane for reasons other than absinthe consumption--he had a disorder in which his brain was pushed against his skull, causing quite possibly the worst headaches in history and dementia.

hemingway drank anything with a reasonable alcohol content.

i've read every one of hemingway's published works, and i dn't remember absinthe figuring very heavily in his work. can you give me some quotes, trypdwyre?

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[B]"For Whom the Bell Tolls"[/B] while robert jordan is in the cave being all pissed off he pulls out a flask, pours himself some absinthe, and comments on how little of it he has left, how when he's done blowing up the bridge he'll need to buy more, it's scattered throughout that book.
references to in in:
the girl in [B]"Hills Like White Elephants"[/B] mentions it
the character Jake Barnes talks about it in [B]"The Sun Also Rises"[/B]
[B]"Death in the Afternoon"[/B] features a passage or 2 on absinthe and pernod, which is an imitation of absinthe.
in [B]"The Garden of Eden"[/B] catherine and david try to get marita into a menage a trois by giving her absinthe
i don't have [B]"A Moveable Feast"[/B] on hand, but i am [I]nearly[/I] positive that there are pleanty of references to it in there.

Not only that, but there is an absinthe drink called "Death in the Afternoon" named after the hemingway novel of the same title.

and kitty if you want i can post some of the quotes. they're not topics of conversation in the books, but they are scattered throughout his novels.

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ok, but what i'm saying is, hemingway was a raging alcoholic--absinthe was just one of the spirits he guzzled on a nearly constant basis.

by the time he died, you could SEE his liver protruding through his abdomen. if it hadn't been for the double barrelled shotgun, hepatitis and alcoholism would have killed him.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trypdwyre [/i]
[B]why do you persist on arguing rich? you know you're wrong, so shut up. [/B][/QUOTE]

Use the quote button and show me where I'm wrong.

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trypd, if you do that, you're stupider than he is. you know he's not going to listen anyway.

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- eat 7300 eggs
Haha. I haven't even eaten one. Mother fuckers!!

- kissing for 2 weeks
Negatory on that one. =\

- have sex 2580 times with 5 different people
Need I repeat myself?

Actually, for all 3 of those, you could just replace everything with 0s. Hee. Fucking yey.......

Anyhow, ill Rich, you're fucking stupid.

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The Ignorant.

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The Trys-To-Sum-People-Up-In-A-((The+(insert word of choice here))-But-Comes-Across-As-A-Total-Fomo.

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Oo! I got labeled! Oh happy day!

You know, this isn't fucking Star Trek. WTF is with you... Seriously, you're a fag. I mean, I'm a dork and all, and that's cool, but jesus, you're fucking lame. The Objective? The Ignorant? Etc, etc... What is with you? Do you work for some secret agency we aren't supposed to know exists? (cue spooky music) Please, enlighten us, sir.

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the world loves labels, don't you know that already. feel proud of your label. brandish it wherever you go.

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all my label says is "expired"
should i brandish that one?

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Shitchyeah! I want a label! Somebody label me! But nothing retarded!

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yeah, Ill Rich. label ME, in your humble opinion.

( im guessing... the Wanker ) dont dissapoint me now.

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No, I don't want Ill Rich to label me. I want someone who likes me to label me so I don't end up with something stupid. I don't want to brandish around a stupid label.

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well, jane. on the other hand these factors come into play:

1. i really dont give a rats arse what Ill Rich thinks, re: my label. besides, itll be fun.
2. i wanna be a product, i wanna be labelled, so bad! isnt the thing that everyone in the world- what we have in common is-- the secret desire to know how we a perceived by others? well, its mine, i think. but sssh, dont tell. --but i guess i have shit on Ill Rich enough on here- that my diagnosis is not going to be favourable.

oh well, looks like im crying myself to sleep AGAIN tonite.....

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You're right. Everyone wants to be labeled and genre-ized. Everyone. I must go sleep. Dang.

PS Don't cry. *Sings 'You're The Best Thing That Ever Happened To Me' to stop wes from crying.*

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oh, you jest! Tongue

guten nacht

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I seriously would sing it...if this weren't the internet...and I knew the words. Remember how I said I was going to bed? Sometimes I lie like that for no reason.

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who does [b]'Sings 'You're The Best Thing That Ever Happened To Me' [/b] ?

how trashy are we talkin' ?

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by disx [/i]
[B]What is with you?[/B][/QUOTE]

What is with you?

Wesley, you want me to label you? I don't label people. They label themselves.

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we went over this rich. your observation of others does not constitute their actual label, if they have any. it's just your opinion. so yes, you do label people. incorrectly if i may say so. and i may say so, this is my post.

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just don't remove it, the label, i mean, under penalty of legal action, don't touch the label!

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was it kierkegaard or dick van patton that said "to label me is to negate me?"

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hey, moe.ron, if you're inallentown, do you know the sterling and the the chicken something or other, bars i mean?

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the fucking chicken lounge???

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yeah, that's it, the goddamned chicken lounge. i haven't been there in years. it must still exist if you know it. do they still have a pool table there and really, really cheap beer?

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yee-ikes. why, pray tell, have you ever gone to the chicken lounge? they still have all of those things, but i never go there because it's so lame. are you from the lehigh valley???

the sterling is under new managment, and is looking better than ever Smile

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no, no no. i went to college with someone whose family lived in allentown, this would have been more then 12 years ago. he took me to the chicken lounge and the sterling and a few other forgettable places. i'm please as punch that these places still exist. it means that what i experienced was real. permanent. unsullied by time. ok, i'll stop.

have many friend in pee yay. philly mostly, but i do know coal country. ever been to shamokin? the coal hole rocks, literally. great bands from time to time. and, don't forget the coney when you need a slider or two at two am. love the alleghenies, too.

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shamokin. you are killin' me!! i've been through shamokin, but i try to stay away from central pa as much as possible.

i still can't believe your friend took you to the chicken lounge. Smile

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shamokin rules. at some point in the 19th century the place was a hopping metroplis, even had an opera house. coal, silk and other goods passed through daily. fortunes were made and some really incredible houses were built - some still standing. and, don't forget, the yuengling brewery, the oldest in america, is nearby.

well, it probably was very different 12 years ago.

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not only are the incredible houses falling into the sink holes, but so is the whole goddamned town. it's a very depressed area, as is most of central pa...who am i kidding...the entire state is economically depressed.

don't get me started on yuengling. a small amount can be found in my bloodstream at any given moment Wink

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yeah, there's been a fire underground for decades. the goddamned coal is on fire. jesus.

yuengling is my every day i don't care so long as it's cold beer.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Wesley Sonck [/i]
[B]who does [b]'Sings 'You're The Best Thing That Ever Happened To Me' [/b] ?

how trashy are we talkin' ? [/B][/QUOTE]

I want to say Gloria Estefan but I'm pretty sure that is dead wrong. But it would be funny!

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