Do you feel like you don't belong here?
I know everyone feels this way from time to time at least. I can get along with anybody but I just can't seem to relate to any one. Whenever I try to make a genuine friend, things are good until my real personality. Over the last couple of years All of my personal connections have been all but cut. My family doesn't want to have anything to do with me unless they are obligated. Any time I try to make new friends or meet new people it feels as though I am speaking my own language or that I am a stranger in a strange land. I've even tried making some personality changes but I found them to be the worst kind of dishonesty and found that I couldn't live with myself. Hell even the girls I date seem to like me a lot until they start to get to see my core. After that, I've seen all of their faces change in the same exact way; like they have found themselves in a situation that was pleasant at first but now are horrified/disgusted by. I can't even go to the internet for any of that. My first post here was a story (thread: My stupid little zombie story) that I wanted some critique/feedback for. This was just a means to an end of finding someone/anyone to talk to about anything; discussion and debate are something I love with all my heart. All I found was an asshole moderator(who obviously has insecurity problems of his own to abuse his meager power in any way he can) that felt absolutely COMPELLED to bore into me about not joining the workshop and the obligatory thread flamers. None of this surprised me necessarily. Most of the world is populated by people that are so insecure about not being good at anything that the only response they have to offer is shit-talking and the internet is a reflection of that society. but I thought that this would be the place to let someone into my weird little world because I thought the same weird little worlds would be here if anywhere else. Most of us would describe ourselves as writers, no one here seems content to have an ordinary life or be an ordinary person. We all seem to want to run from the notion of normal as though it were a plague ridden village in the 15th century. All I found was just another place and group of people that I couldn't connect with. For me this is the last stop. I haven't posted here in a long time because I have been scouring the any place I could get to looking for something that connects me to the rest of the world or just another person. But nothing has really changed. I'm just a few more acquaintances than a retard on facebook but now the landscape outside my door seems alien and filled with land mines, traps, reeducation and youthful demise. My mind and heart are telling to skip all of that and just get straight to the suicide. This is completely terrifying to me. I don't want to die but I feel more and more everyday that it would be correct course of action. The question I have to ask myself everyday is if I think things will ever be different or if it is even worth it to work towards a goal that I have no idea how to achieve and probably not turn out the way I need it to. To be clear I need advice here not coddling or pity, fuck that shit. If you have any experiences that are similar or advice or anything please let me in on it. Hell even if you think I should kill myself, tell me that. Either way it goes my life has to change, I've done everything I know to do and still i'm not any closer to being neutral or even apathetic. This idea has taken taken hold in my mind. This suicide is something I, at first, tried to put out of my mind. Now, I'm starting to grow more and more comfortable with by the day. I feel as though I owe it to the world to snuff myself out for the life I have lead and its natural in-consequence. Has anybody else ever like this and if so what are my options.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
Those are pretty-much every one's options anyway.
Me, I live for paragraph breaks.
This is why we can't have nice things.
tl;dr
who the fuck are you?
merry christmas.
"I'm glad I live in the GPS era. In a different century, I would've set off to visit the other side of the village and wandered off into the mountains and been eaten by a carnivorous plant. Or discovered the Americas."
-LaJessica
Synopsis: WAAAAAHHH!!!
My observation: None of us are special; this guy even less-so.
This is why we can't have nice things.


Merry Christmas Bitch!
Okay so: post a little more before you drop something like that.
2: TLTR sorry.
3: Drugs and alcohol
4: Who doesn't want to kick the bucket?!
5: It gets better...bitch.
You're depressed. Talk to your doctor.
You remind me a whole lot of this dude I met recently. He's got a lot of potential, but he has what I'd classify, in my non-medical background, as antisocial tendencies. Not in a harmful to others way, but in a socially abnormal way to the point of bothering people. He makes it obvious with people that he doesn't have very close friends or family, and in such a way that is socially unattractive. It's as though he's aware that he's doing it, and that it makes people uncomfortable. Perhaps he doesn't pick up on social queues. I've tried to spell it out for him, and he was way ahead of everything I was saying and diverted the issue, so I didn't push it.
I appreciate that you feel you are being true to yourself. Principle is lacking in so many people, and you recognize that. If you feel powerless to do anything about it, then where might you have an impact on the world that you can be proud of?
I guess you also should ask yourself what it is about your personality that you could change that you would still feel true to yourself in doing? This is a huge grey area. I have a friend who has very noticeably changed his overall personality over the past two or so years. Some would call this 'maturing'. I can't really feel negatively about the fact that someone has changed themselves, as much as I could pick out aspects of his new personality and critique them as not true to the concept I have of his personality of yesterday. How I have noticed myself changing in thought and manner have been gradual changes that I say haven't fundamentally altered since shortly after I was bailed from government school.
I suppose my advice would boil down to; conceptualize who you are now and who you want to be. Factor into the variables, who is everyone else, your community being of primary importance, than the rest of the world, that you'll be interacting with. How are these people identifying themselves, and how could you teach them to better identify themselves?
This gets very circular as knowing others often requires knowing one's self.
"They sold you hippies grunge, hip hop, now liberty activism."
My observation: None of us are special; this guy even less-so.
Speak for yourself! I'm special because I was the fastest sperm and strongest ova(?) let's just say egg, I'm not the brightest human being but I came* to exist and that's pretty fucking special.
*hehe came
I didn't read your post dude but from the title I think you just need to accept yourself and realize your not always going to feel like you belong somewhere until you accept that you're different. Something philosophical shit blah blah blah enjoy life blah blah blah cool beans.
Ovum.
Yeah that's what i thought but I think WWF has me all confused.
One ovum, two ova. Latinate words, Latinate inflection.
word nerd
@original post:
Quit complaining about where you are relatively to others and the concept of normalcy. Find what you want. Get it. That usually adds up to: "Make money. Fuck bitches." It's science.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Lib's totally right here.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Merry Christmas?
Please do not kill yourself.
Call Tender Branson's suicide hotline.
Holy shit It's a Christmas Miracle!
I know, right?
This is why we can't have nice things.
I thought this was going to be about not belonging here, at the cult, and I was going to say, "Give it some time, we'll get used to you".
Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
I like how tl;dr looks like a sad guy with a hat. Sort of a double meaning, if you wear a hat while not reading.
| adj | facebook | an american atheist| warmed and bound |
@original post:
Quit complaining about where you are relatively to others and the concept of normalcy. Find what you want. Get it. That usually adds up to: "Make money. Fuck bitches." It's science.
Which form of "fucking" "bitches" is more important... fornicating with women or screwing what anyone thinks?
Choose wisely. And you can't say both. That's cheating.
I'm declaring a return of the classic.

This is why we can't have nice things.
@original post:
Quit complaining about where you are relatively to others and the concept of normalcy. Find what you want. Get it. That usually adds up to: "Make money. Fuck bitches." It's science.
Which form of "fucking" "bitches" is more important... fornicating with women or screwing what anyone thinks?
Choose wisely. And you can't say both. That's cheating.
The former.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
hahahah, wheres the pos rep button
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
@Giggan
Thanks for giving me a for-real answer, that helped a lot man. I didn't post this shit here just to be posting it. I try not to get into anything too serious on internet because most of the internet is populated by people like Tuffy; seems smart, can be funny, but because of his mother not paying enough attention or his father paying too much attention, if you get my drift, that he has to make heartlessness a sport to prove his worth to people he will never really know. I've got problems but I'd be willing to wager Tuffy has more problems and he's doomed to not ever being able to admit to them.
Any way I'm getting off topic. I really appreciate the words and they have given me some ideas. One of my problems, I'm starting to realize, is that change isn't always forsaking who you really are. I've been reading a lot about Jungian psychoanalysis and it is giving me some very interesting insight into the bad choices I have made throughout my life. There are parts of my personality that I have flat out ran from just to even have the ability to get into a social circle. It is a long story but the short way is to say, where I am from the only sense of community feels more like a special brand of fascism. If you weren't from this town, born and raised not even the teachers would treat you like a human being. Everybody is out for themselves. An example is my suburban neighborhood. I lived next door to the same people for 10 years. When I first moved in I went around to introduce myself but everyone acted as though I was knocking on their door to sale them something. But thanks for taking it some what serious. sorry for the long read bro
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
I try to keep that in mind everyday but things like that are always easier said than done. Thanks for the post man.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.

Why not just tell me to go fuck myself like I'm going to tell you to do. I'm sure it would've took less time and energy than photoshopping a smart ass remark. Since you're not getting paid for it (if they paid for that, I'm sure we'd all be millionaires by now) it really just makes you a bigger fucking idiot than you think I am.
Okay so: post a little more before you drop something like that.
2: TLTR sorry.
3: Drugs and alcohol
4: Who doesn't want to kick the bucket?!
5: It gets better...bitch.
Noted thanks man
@original post:
Quit complaining about where you are relatively to others and the concept of normalcy. Find what you want. Get it. That usually adds up to: "Make money. Fuck bitches." It's science.
My post was TL huh? Where I am compared to others wouldn't matter if I didn't feel like the distance between us was a goddamn planet. Also, "quit complaining" is the dumbest fucking response to this post I can conceive of. To quit complaining would change absolutely nothing, on top of the fact that you know nothing about me. I may be justified in complaining about everything under the sun but you'd know fuck-all about that just like I know fuck-all about you. I swear I don't know why you motherfuckers even bother when it be easier on everyone if you'd just skip the post altogether if it provides no interest what-so-ever for you. I guess that's when you realize you are dealing with infantile children that find it a physical impossibility to keeping their fucking mouth shut. Go back to mall to steal some more fridge magnets
To any one else that made an appropriate response, that were genuinely trying to help drawing from their own experience, let me say Thank you all. Congradulations you got your human being merit badge.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
I didn't. The bastard almost had me then I realized I had a noose around my neck and I don't even know how to tie one. he's a sly bastard
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
I got my Human Being merit badge for being nice on the internet?
Fuck. If I had known it was that easy... I mean damn. I can quit giving a fuck now.
Who are these replys too?
Can I just pick one at random and claim it?
I think you can!

Why not just tell me to go fuck myself like I'm going to tell you to do. I'm sure it would've took less time and energy than photoshopping a smart ass remark. Since you're not getting paid for it (if they paid for that, I'm sure we'd all be millionaires by now) it really just makes you a bigger fucking idiot than you think I am.
I didn't make that. I just Googled "tl;dr" and that was on the first page. I'd never put that much time and effort into replying to one of these threads.

@original post:
Quit complaining about where you are relatively to others and the concept of normalcy. Find what you want. Get it. That usually adds up to: "Make money. Fuck bitches." It's science.
My post was TL huh? Where I am compared to others wouldn't matter if I didn't feel like the distance between us was a goddamn planet. Also, "quit complaining" is the dumbest fucking response to this post I can conceive of. To quit complaining would change absolutely nothing, on top of the fact that you know nothing about me. I may be justified in complaining about everything under the sun but you'd know fuck-all about that just like I know fuck-all about you. I swear I don't know why you motherfuckers even bother when it be easier on everyone if you'd just skip the post altogether if it provides no interest what-so-ever for you. I guess that's when you realize you are dealing with infantile children that find it a physical impossibility to keeping their fucking mouth shut. Go back to mall to steal some more fridge magnets
Uh-huh. We don't know you and you expect us to care about you. You're not going to get a caring response from me on the internet unless you're willing to show you're worth the time and energy to give real answers to. Every word I said was the simplified truth. Quit complaining. Everyone has something to complain about. That doesn't mean it's worth the energy, if you can TRY to read into my words. You're wasting your energy with these petty complaints. I know fuck-all about you? Then stop posting things that require me to magically know more. You want deeper answers? As said before, go to a doctor. However, the fact that you feel so fucking entitled makes me think there's nothing wrong with you. You just need the attention and you don't know how else to get it. I recommend NOT feeling so entitled. You feel shitty acting differently than "yourself" to be in good company? Welcome to the real world. We all do that all the time, and on occasion the people close to use get to see us for who we really are. It's rare to find those that care enough to stick around after. You seem to be articulate enough and you seem to have a decent enough understanding about social ethics, so yeah. Nothing's stopping you from finding these type of people, unless of course THIS is how you like to open up a conversation.
Now go out and get what you're worth, tiger. Make money. Fuck bitches.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Uselessname47 are you by chance related to Trueposer?
Whatever Whore!
ˆlol
Win.
"I'm glad I live in the GPS era. In a different century, I would've set off to visit the other side of the village and wandered off into the mountains and been eaten by a carnivorous plant. Or discovered the Americas."
-LaJessica


Hey look. This guy totally edited shis posts. Noe we do not know what s/he said at all. MYSTERY. Impossible to know. No one can remember. EDITING POSTS MAKE THEM NOT HAPPEN!
I've decided to be an asshole to you. Consider it your own Merit Badge. You earned a Pepper Does Not Like You Badge. Takes effort. You should be proud.
I still do not want you to kill yourself though. Let's be clear on that point.
Uh-huh. We don't know you and you expect us to care about you. You're not going to get a caring response from me on the internet unless you're willing to show you're worth the time and energy to give real answers to. Every word I said was the simplified truth. Quit complaining. Everyone has something to complain about. That doesn't mean it's worth the energy, if you can TRY to read into my words. You're wasting your energy with these petty complaints. I know fuck-all about you? Then stop posting things that require me to magically know more. You want deeper answers? As said before, go to a doctor. However, the fact that you feel so fucking entitled makes me think there's nothing wrong with you. You just need the attention and you don't know how else to get it. I recommend NOT feeling so entitled. You feel shitty acting differently than "yourself" to be in good company? Welcome to the real world. We all do that all the time, and on occasion the people close to use get to see us for who we really are. It's rare to find those that care enough to stick around after. You seem to be articulate enough and you seem to have a decent enough understanding about social ethics, so yeah. Nothing's stopping you from finding these type of people, unless of course THIS is how you like to open up a conversation.
Now go out and get what you're worth, tiger. Make money. Fuck bitches.
See that was the type of response I was looking for. I certainly don't expect any one to really care. Just not to ridicule me for trying to get different perspectives about how to sort my shit out. You're right, I do suck as a person and that was the reason I made this thread. So, really no bullshit, thank you for that reply
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
I've decided to be an asshole to you. Consider it your own Merit Badge. You earned a Pepper Does Not Like You Badge. Takes effort. You should be proud.
I still do not want you to kill yourself though. Let's be clear on that point.
Not trying to be a smartass but I am not at all sure what you are talking about here. Are you saying that my responses (none of which are directed at you pepper) offended/pissed you off so much so that a real distaste for me has developed? If I offended you, I apologize. The fact that you don't want me to kill myself makes you cool in my book even if you don't like me.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
I see you've edited your first post a bit, and a really think you need to talk to a doctor. You sound depressed and like you need some counselling.
The only real editing I remember doing to the first post was immediately after I posted it to change some wording or spelling errors. The post has retained, for better or worse, is same whiny request for life coaching from people that I don't know.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
The only real editing I remember doing to the first post was immediately after I posted it to change some wording or spelling errors. The post has retained, for better or worse, is same whiny request for life coaching from people that I don't know.
I thought I'd read it through the first time, but this time there seems to be a bit more about suicide. You'd be much better off talking to some professionals. I know you were probably trying to find like-minded people with this first post, but I guess we're not. So like I've said, get in touch with some Real Life people that can Real Life help you. And I really don't mean to sounds like and arsehole, but I don't want you to kill yourself.
I've decided to be an asshole to you. Consider it your own Merit Badge. You earned a Pepper Does Not Like You Badge. Takes effort. You should be proud.
I still do not want you to kill yourself though. Let's be clear on that point.
Not trying to be a smartass but I am not at all sure what you are talking about here. Are you saying that my responses (none of which are directed at you pepper) offended/pissed you off so much so that a real distaste for me has developed? If I offended you, I apologize. The fact that you don't want me to kill myself makes you cool in my book even if you don't like me.
Keep the badge, anyhow.
Takes work to get one. I don't just pass them out. You happened to catch me in the perfect mood.
Uh-huh. We don't know you and you expect us to care about you. You're not going to get a caring response from me on the internet unless you're willing to show you're worth the time and energy to give real answers to. Every word I said was the simplified truth. Quit complaining. Everyone has something to complain about. That doesn't mean it's worth the energy, if you can TRY to read into my words. You're wasting your energy with these petty complaints. I know fuck-all about you? Then stop posting things that require me to magically know more. You want deeper answers? As said before, go to a doctor. However, the fact that you feel so fucking entitled makes me think there's nothing wrong with you. You just need the attention and you don't know how else to get it. I recommend NOT feeling so entitled. You feel shitty acting differently than "yourself" to be in good company? Welcome to the real world. We all do that all the time, and on occasion the people close to use get to see us for who we really are. It's rare to find those that care enough to stick around after. You seem to be articulate enough and you seem to have a decent enough understanding about social ethics, so yeah. Nothing's stopping you from finding these type of people, unless of course THIS is how you like to open up a conversation.
Now go out and get what you're worth, tiger. Make money. Fuck bitches.
See that was the type of response I was looking for. I certainly don't expect any one to really care. Just not to ridicule me for trying to get different perspectives about how to sort my shit out. You're right, I do suck as a person and that was the reason I made this thread. So, really no bullshit, thank you for that reply
So what was the problem with my first reply? Tuffy liked it, and that NEVER happens. So obviously there was something universally awesome about it. I pretty much said the exact same thing here (albeit a little more wordy).
Si vis pacem, para bellum
I'll keep "Get money, Fuck Bitches". Easier to remember and just a prositive message overall. Thanks bro
The only difference between a religion and a cult is a popularity contest.
I was going to write more here last night but I was sleepy. Shit happens when you're on morphine; you suddenly wake up in a chair with your headphones on, you're listening to some insane shit by Saint-Saëns, the laptop is upside-down on the floor, all the ice in your beverage is long-melted, and there's a new water-ring on your end-table (serial comma, FTFW).
See, here's the thing. Me and Lib, we pretty-much don't agree on, well, anything at all. He thinks I am A Pretentious Douche (I'm probably more of A Mere Snob), and I think he's Too Young To Know Better (he is, but Time will fix that). Sometimes we parley, sometimes we go at each other's throats. Mostly, we ignore each other. But, you know what? I love the kid. He's part of the Cult. He's here, he's put in the time and the effort. He's contributed. The Cult is the Cult, in part, due to his participation.
Now, if Lib came online one day and posted a panicked diatribe about life and doubts about his place among the living, besides such being totally out of character for him (I think he has yet to doubt anything that he believes and would frankly be surprised to see a sign of insecurity from him) he would not only get serious responses, but people would give a damn.
Really what you've done here is post, "Wah! Pay attention to me!" Whether that was your intention or not, you've succeeded to a point. Nobody at the Cult wants you to kill yourself; and really, you don't want to or, instead of going to an internet literature forum, you would have, you know, killed yourself. But you've gotten a bunch of negative attention which, given your initial post, should have been more or less expected. And, in response, you've been pretty-much a fuck-wit. You've earned the Pepper Does Not Like You badge, which is one hell of an achievement, especially considering your postcount. You've accomplished in a day what takes years for some total assholes to manage. You either need to Rethink Your Approach here or maybe just GTFO. Most congenial bunch on the internet, and you've managed to alienate nigh everyone with your Cry For Help.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Imma hug you, Tuff.
*hug*
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Oh shaddup.
This is why we can't have nice things.


Your options are to either keep living or kill yourself. That's what it seems you're telling us.