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What is the opinion of Cultists on the subject of [b]deja vú[/b] ?...

- is it some kind of rip in our subconcious?
- was the Matrix right? ( its like a mistake in the programming? )
- is it just a weird thing that will always fascinate/annoy us?
- is it a pile of total shite?

Please discuss.

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DEJA VU IS WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU REMEMBER IT BUT THE THNIG IS HAPENENIGN TO YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME

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deja vú is one of the weirdest things in life.

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damn, i had some ideas but i just figured that i don't like them at all.

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one of my explanations is: maybe we're reliving our lives. maybe life is just ongoing running in circles. (and you can move on once you get it right. then you will meet god or someone and he/she will say "you may now pass.")

that would be awful and pointless. no, please, no.

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I only get deja vûs of deja vû's.

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my friend tim has this weird kind of individual religion he kind of sort of invented, based on these books he read, the first is called "Seth Speaks". the basic premise of these books is that we choose the lives we lead before leading them, on some kind of higher astral plane--that we're actually higher beings who use this world to learn and have experiences. so he would say that deja vu happens because you already know a lot of what will happen in your life.

i'm not saying i agree with that, but it's an interesting theory nonetheless.

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hey i read that book, and i had a deja vu today. oh what can it all mean?!

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course there's also the matrix theory...which sometimes i think isn't such a crazy idea...plus i like saying to people, "it's a glitch in the matrix." sounds so cool.

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I love deja vu. I don't really believe this as an explanation, but I've always wondered if it has anything to do with dreaming that part of your life before.

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I love 'm too, I guess it has all to do with time experience and subconsious brain activity...like dreams. I read some about them but since most conclude in the subconsious I don't think we'll ever figure them out!

ehehehe, funny BS theory,

Since in the early pre homo sapien days we were the blend of a half ape/alien ape, we have a part of us inside wich doesn't really function in our world's biosphere we experience this as the occult, dreams, thought and emotion. Look at the massive concrete structures, look at the pyramids, look at the clouds and forests and their population...see the difference.

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some people think that god, mary, jesus, etc., were really aliens that showed up in ancient times and taught people things.

again, i don't know if i believe that, but it's an interesting idea.

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I think of deja vu's as dreams I've had that showed my future... or something like that.

Such as, I'll have a conversation like, "Yeah, Audioslave is a really shitty band." And then, a friend of mine will say, "No, they rock." Then the deja vu will occur. Maybe, I dreamed about this event a month earlier and just didn't remember it?

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or maybe you and your friends just keep talking about the same stuff. lol.

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That's a probability.

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who's to say that time only travels in one direction? i think perhaps deja vu is your brain using more than it's usual 10%, and actually percieveing things in a different direction . that explanation fits best with the idea of being able to prophecy, or just see the future.
just an idea

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As far as I know, it's to do with the memory part of your brain accidentally tripping, making you think you're actually remembering something instead of experiencing it for the first time. That's the boring explanation that I read in some scientific article a while back. I'd post a link but, you know.

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There was also a study where the subject received electrical stimulation while they sat alone in a room by themselves. A majority of subjects related having a profound religious/spiritual experience. Many said it changed their lives. I wanted to join the study and see what the effect of multiple religious experiences would have on me. Anyway, if religious experiences can be induced by clocks, I'm sure there's some trigger for deja vu experiences.

[SIZE=1]Abstract
This experiment was designed to test the hypothesis that the sensed presence, the feeling of a proximal sentient being, can be evoked within the laboratory. Under double-blind conditions, 48 university men and women (aged 19-25 yrs) were exposed to weak (100 nT to 1 muT), complex, pulsed magnetic fields that were applied primarily over the right temporoparietal region, primarily over the left temporoparietal region, or equally across both hemispheres (one treatment per group) for 20 minutes while wearing opaque goggles in a very quiet room. A fourth group was exposed to a sham-field condition. Subjects who received greater stimulation over the right hemisphere or equal stimulation across both hemispheres reported more frequent incidences of presences, fears, and odd smells than did the subjects who received greater stimulation over the left hemisphere or who were exposed to the sham-field condition. The results suggest that the sensed presence is subject to experimental manipulation. This experimental procedure could be employed to explore the idea that the experience of a sensed presence is a resident property of the human brain and may be the fundamental source for phenomena attributed to visitations by gods, spirits, and other ephemeral phenomena.
-- Journal of Nervous & Mental Disease. Vol 190(8), Aug 2002, 533-541.[/SIZE]

and this one:

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Reports on a 17-yr-old Roman Catholic female with a history of early brain trauma experiencing nightly visitations by a sentient being. During one episode she experienced vibrations of the bed, an external presence along the left side that moved into her body, inner vaginal and uterine sensations, and the sense of being impregnated by a force she attributed to the Holy Spirit. After the latter experience she felt an invisible baby superimposed upon her left shoulder. Analyses of the measurements for magnetic anomalies within her bedroom indicated an electric clock about 20 cm from her bed while she slept. The complex form of the 4 microT magnetic pulses generated by the clock was similar to shapes that evoke electrical seizures in epileptic rats and sensitive humans.
-- Perceptual & Motor Skills. Vol 92(1), Feb 2001, 35-36. [/SIZE]

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i think most ppl are prob. a little bit psychic.

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I was watching one of those goofy shows on the Sci-fi channel one time about ghosts and whatnot and they were saying that being "psychic" actually runs in the family. A gene or something is passed down through generations, stimulating a part of the brain that isn't operable in most people. Not that this has anything to do with deja vu, but if you're seeing ghosts, talking to your parents cause they might have some insight.

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Bullocks. You can be taught this ability, anyone with a brain can. Many call it "intuition" instead. What runs in the family is the behavior/method.

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My intuition is fucking hardcore. I swear I'm nigh psychic. It's sweet. Except it never works when I need it. Because I get all confused by my ultra-pessimistic nature whenever myself is involved in the matter and then sometimes my stupid ass idealistic side chimes in and just makes it all worse. So yeah. When it matters, my intuition is shit. However, I make a good look out for all my friends. Wow. Fucking great.

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One thing that I can throw into this, and I hope I'm not the only one who has this, but every once in a while I'll hear a new word, and I'll have never heard it before. Say, "Pernicious". The moment I hear that word, within the week following I [I]will[/I] hear it about 10 more times. In strange, and unfitting circumstances. And I've had it happen probably 50 or so times now.

Has anyone else had any of those wierd "This world is shaped around what I'm learning" situations?

Or am I as strange as they all say...

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Happens to me all the time, not just words though, ideas, objects, lots of things.
Love your "Secretary" avatar too. That movie was ausum.

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it only means you're paying more attention to it. the world isn't shaped around your learning. your learning shapes how you experience the world. that's different from deja vu.

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i like what trypdwyre said

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No, you have it all wrong. There are really a thousand dimensions which are all the same as our own, just witha few differences. Like that show Sliders. In #278 Im black. In #859 Hitler won. Anyway, we get Deja Vu when we get an overlap in these dimensions. So when I get Deja Vu in a conversation, that means Im having the same conversation in one of those alternate dimensions.
Really I have no fucking idea. When I experience Deja Vu, its usually with some sort of small event. So maybe we're just remembering doing something similar in the past. The brain cell that held that memory was just dormant all that time and we get a little rush from it coming back into service.
Or maybe...

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i actually had a multiple universe theory

but it takes a long time to explain and is kinda hard to explain also.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bronskrat [/i]
[B]Bullocks. You can be taught this ability, anyone with a brain can. Many call it "intuition" instead. What runs in the family is the behavior/method. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, intuition can be learned, but the show I was talking about was talking about being psychic in terms of communicating with spirits. Sorry if that was a bit unclear.

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i get deja vu when i watch porn, but thats probably because I watch alot of porn

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MAN PORN WITH HAIREY ASS AND SOME BIG BALLS IN TEH FRONT OF YOU ROFLMAOLO!!!!!!!!!!111

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exactly....heh.. is there some way of blocking all his posts from my computer because you sir, are an idiot.

and dont respond : YOU AER DE FAGGET! YUO SUKC DE BIG BALLSACK LOLROFL!!!!!!!1111 because that proves my point...

ANYWAY, yeah i dream stuff that happens later, like i remember dreaming it to, like before it happens again. I think the "boring science book" expliantion is the most feasable.

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nice name godsbbqsauce

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i think kl0pper finally discovered jeffk

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by insomnomaniac [/i]
[B]my friend tim has this weird kind of individual religion he kind of sort of invented, based on these books he read, the first is called "Seth Speaks". the basic premise of these books is that we choose the lives we lead before leading them, on some kind of higher astral plane--that we're actually higher beings who use this world to learn and have experiences. so he would say that deja vu happens because you already know a lot of what will happen in your life.

i'm not saying i agree with that, but it's an interesting theory nonetheless. [/B][/QUOTE]

Kitty, your friend didn't invent it. It was an actual new-agey feel-better-about-yourself-type religion in the 70's - haven't seen any of them around lately, but you used to always see them being interviewed on TV. Kinda like the Raelians today.

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i had this really weird experience one time. i saw a photograph of someplace i'd never been, and it felt like i had been there, a lot, and i started to remember all this weird stuff that never happened. i dont know if thats deja vu, or just me being messed up in the head.
i think its probably either something that happens often, or something form a dream...

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[QUOTE]Kitty, your friend didn't invent it. It was an actual new-agey feel-better-about-yourself-type religion in the 70's - haven't seen any of them around lately, but you used to always see them being interviewed on TV. Kinda like the Raelians today.[/QUOTE]

well, it is sorta like that stuff, and i *did* say he based it off those books, so obviously he didn't come up with all the ideas on his own. but he has cobbled a lot of stuff together, and he doesn't adhere to one group...it falls under new agey, but it's not really following any one thing. but yeah, invent was prob. the wrong word.

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