Dear Chucky P

I'd leave him alone. He's sick and tired of all the nonsense he has to hear everyday. He's sick and tired of people saying "this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time". He's tired of the Tyler-ism's. He ready to be looked at as something more than one book. He's got other work too. He loves his fans but wishes they'd consider how he feels for a second. He lives in a remote location to escape the constant badgering for free shit. If this were a movie, he'd yell "cut". If this were a book, he'd write "the end". If this were something other than real life, he'd rewrite it. Fame has it's pleasure and it's pain. Not every person is full of good ideas or thoughts or anything. Not every word spoken is full of meaning or even justified. Maybe he just needs time to think. Maybe he's ready for something new. Could be it's time for change. Could be that process has already begun...

I think he'd hate us all after he read half of these posts and realized that we totally bite his style.

id say whats up dude. wanna go drinking?
anything i would do with ym friends id do with chuck

I'd ask him what kind of porn he likes

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DoNotTrip [/i]
[B]I'd ask him what kind of porn he likes [/B][/QUOTE]

A Few of Chuck Palahniuk's Top Porno's:

- "Mangy Orangutan Stuffing Chestnuts Up Some Fat Dude-wearing a Tarzan loincloth's Cheesy Ass II: Dead by Dawn"
- "The Mile High Club: Toilet Tease"
- "Disfigured Chicks with Dicks. Starring the bootylicious "Brandy"
- "Tight Club: If this is your first Tight, You gotta fuck"
- "Choking on ManMeat III: The Addiction"
- "Creedish Cunts Gone Wild"
- "Support Group Swingers: Men Being With Men Again"

... etc...

I'd definitely thank him for everything he's written, fiction and non. I could be wrong, but as best as I can figure I would never get sick of hearing that I changed someone's life for the better. But I'd be succinct and then let him be.

Writers are people too, (not that I'm accusing anyone here of forgetting that) and a lot of people I've seen get way too starstruck about these sorts of things.

I just thanked him and told him I had called in sick to work to finish Survivor. He said his boss went to fetch him from a lunch break once and found him reading some stephen King novel. Chuck told him "you can fire me if you want, but I only have 7 pages left" (that was the gist more or less, maybe he said 5 pages)

i don't see that i would seek out his company for any reason. on the other hand, if i happened to be acquainted with him, i'd say hello but i don't imagine it going farther than that unless we actually knew one another. imo, why would i want to take it to another level of star fucking. i have bought and read some of his books. he ought to be thanking me.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mirkah [/i]
[B]I just thanked him and told him I had called in sick to work to finish Survivor. He said his boss went to fetch him from a lunch break once and found him reading some stephen King novel. Chuck told him "you can fire me if you want, but I only have 7 pages left" (that was the gist more or less, maybe he said 5 pages) [/B][/QUOTE]

Were you at the conference or was this somewhere else?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by framstedt [/i]
[B] imo, why would i want to take it to another level of star fucking. i have bought and read some of his books. he ought to be thanking me. [/B][/QUOTE]

Fram, no offense but doesn't this position seem a bit overcompensatory? It bothers me when people think artists owe them for supporting the art when it's a mutual situation. If you enjoyed the book, you can thank the artist without danger of star-fucking. If the artist is gracious, he or she will thank you for supporting them. Mutality.

There's something to be said for being unimpressed by celebrity in this time of weirdness where they're the new Royalty. But there's something to be said for gratefukness between artists and patrons, a sense of community so not every writer, painter, lyricist ends up Salinger.

i have always taken the no hero-worship stance myself. sure if we had something in common to talk about, i would talk to him, but only as another person, not as this big-ass celeb.
celebs/authors/actors/etc. all have lives of their own, why do people feel the need to drag them into their own life?

certainly, i agree with the jist of your first point, but perhaps overcompensatory is a little off the mark. i think perhaps it is naive to dismiss the fact that, as enriched as we may all be through the enjoyment of a writer's work, his work is nevertheless a product of a commercial enterprise who has decided to bring his work to market because they believe they will make money doing so. his intent and purpose is clear; perhaps even his desire. still, publishing houses are in the business of making money publishing books. this is why i feel that my support ought to be recognized by the author, not his publisher's 10Qs and 10Ks.

many celebrities haven't realized that they have been dehumanized by their superstar status. in fact, many still expect the trappings of anonymity in the face of public reknown. this is an untenable position and extremely selfish.

hear, hear, trypd.

[aside: prototype where's you're sig from? it's driving me nuts!]

Also a good point Fram.

And yeah, overcompensatory isn't the right word...but it's the first one that came to mind.

[feels a bit lame for being amused by that]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RuByLiCiouS [/i]
[B][aside: prototype where's you're sig from? it's driving me nuts!] [/B][/QUOTE]

[aside post-script: It's from a poem I wrote called "Nobody Wanted to Tell You, But..."]

[i]exuent, stage left[/i]

isnt it from riki-oh..or ricky oh...the greatest cult film ever...well not the greatest but defintely up there

'lo origami.

you should defintely check it out..very very campy...
it's one of those so bad it's good things..

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by prototype [/i]
[B]Were you at the conference or was this somewhere else? [/B][/QUOTE]

It was at a reading in Berkeley.

I had a dream about Chuck last night. This is so pathetic, but I'll share. I'm assuming I dreamt about him because I just got Diary and then read a Diary thread with a fucking SPOILER in it.

Anyway, in the dream Chuck was the kind of friend that just comes over and opens the fridge. I came downstairs and he was in the kitchen. He said "I made coffee". I said "Thank God" We laughed. We took our coffee outside to this huge victorian garden that was my dream backyard and sat on the porch steps.

He asked if I'd started reading Diary yet. I said, yeah, I love it.

He looked down and got all sad and said, A lot of people are not happy about it.

I said: Fuck them! Its really good and I'm to finish it today.

He said, thats cool I just wanted to see if you were done with the paper.

I said; yeah, take it. I'm not going to read it today.

He then KISSED me on the cheek and left with the paper, asking if he could take the coffee cup and bring it back later.

Yes, I have a slight crush on him but at least I've met him and talked to him. I'm not totally pathetic. Nice dream

hmm i had a chuck related dream last week...
it was at a book signing and the book signing turned out to be a writing clinic sort of thing...and if you read my "action" thread..it is where i bumped into knox (in the dream) hwere he was preparing to present chuck a gigantic FC poster he made... there's more to the dream but not chuck related...so..yeah there...

crush eh?...hehe...that's alright..not too patheic...
it's good to feel that way...

oh and in the dream i was too shy to present him with my writing...so i was skirting around him and that's how i bumped into knox...i do that a lot. at the film festival i had a lot of chances to talk to actors and directors but i ended up hangin around them..and not talking much.... the director of volcano high (korean action comedy flick..think ..matrix meets the breakfast club) was right in front of me..and i had so many chances to talk to him (the programmer even introduced me to him..) but i was like..hmm.."hi"...it was tough cause we had to talk via a translater...he asked if i was korean..and i said no..but i liked a korean before..and then i got all uncomfortable and was like "hmm gotta run"..and ran across the street..i think he thinks i'm flighty..lol

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B].

crush eh?...hehe...that's alright..not too patheic...
it's good to feel that way... [/B][/QUOTE]

Well he's attractive and funny as hell. So there you go, i have a type

This is so weird.... [b]I[/b] dreamt about Chuck last night, too! First, he forcefed me his hot manlove, [i]then[/i] he shaved my chest and called me his "Widdle soldier-boy". The rest is kind of embarrassing.

lucky....

tuffy, what were you doing earlier that may have *ahem* contributed to this dream? apart from posting on the forum, of course.

Look... Forget i brought it up.

lippy never has sex dreams...
if you read my posts you would know why..
there is no repression..hence no need for the subconscious to work out these issues...

chuck is cute..and intelligence is a huge turn on

it certainly is, intelligence i mean.

i haven't forgotten that you brought it up, my good man. no one is compelling you to say anything you don't want to disclose to the group. still, your dream makes one think. . .

oh you have no idea...
intelligence>>>>>>>physical attractiveness
(although good looks is a bonus)

lippy cant stand talking to a guy who she cant communicate with...it's like talk to a wall..and lippy RATHER talk to a wall

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by origamiLips [/i]
[B]oh you have no idea...
intelligence>>>>>>>physical attractiveness
(although good looks is a bonus)

lippy cant stand talking to a guy who she cant communicate with...it's like talk to a wall..and lippy RATHER talk to a wall [/B][/QUOTE]

funny... I see lots of butt ugly smart people who can't seem to get a date... but yeah, I get your drift. I like smart chicks... especially if they are smarter than me, which doesn't take much, believe me... that way I get real turned on when they talk over my head and correct me all the time. It's bonerific...

whatcha talking about..i see ugly people hooking up with ugly people all the time..and smart people with smart people etc etc...i guess you can only "score" within your own "league" (social psych). ideally, i love a guy who is smarter than me so i can always learn from him..and would always look forward in talking to him...a constant attraction..very very othello and desamona like. which is funny in a way because usually i am always the one in control..but when i find a guy that i genuinely like..i take the back seat and let him take lead...although switching it up is fun too... role reversals interest me...so do any sort of perversions of the norm

and i thought you were the uber smart type
(need to read more of your post..have to go back to the henry post...been one of my favourite serial killer movies)

just out of curiousity (since i am a psych student...i am forever curious)...are you the submissive type?

Sure... I'm submissive. I'm a real pushover even. Hell if I know. I like strong women, but I gotta say I usually end up with weak-willed ones. Every strong woman I've ever really liked seems to fall in the "one that got away" category. So be it. Then again I can be pretty dominating. I like to tell a woman what to do. Just me. Wierd like that I guess. Not uber smart. Uber-able to think on my feet maybe... But yeah, generally you''ll find me fully clothed in a chair telling a girl to undress while I watch. At least at the start... and if she hasn't been naughty...

"Every strong woman I've ever really liked seems to fall in the "one that got away" category"

how very true..but i'm sure i've moved on..but i do use him as a prototype of what to look for..but lately..it doesnt matter too much anymore..

based on what i've seen..most men around me are too immature and are just boys...so i'm a firm believer of "better alone than poorly accompanied"...

sure we all can be both dominant and submissive ..it just depends on what the situation dictates

you guys make me laugh (in a good way...)
and what would you do if she has been naughty?
dammit this should go into the kinks fetishes thread

(just interested cause i've been reading bondage stories lately)

Off-topic? No matter. Anyhow... as any good strict disciplinarian should realize, the punishment should always fit the crime. With that said, punishment is only punishment if the one being punished sees it as less than pleasurable, even painful to some extent. So it's difficult to say what her naughty behavior, thoughts, etc... might mean in terms of punishment. It really becomes something of an art form, personal and subjective and cruelly beautiful all at once... and always, and I stress the word always... it must be given and received with the utmost sense of reality, otherwise it serves no purpose other than roleplaying...

I heard the dominating one always sleeps closest to the door in the bedroom... Of course that'd usually end up being one of those things you'd rather not know when visiting family friends.