Cathood Ethicity
I propose a moral question, and I assume mixed responses will present themselves.
I'm driving my automobile, my friend Pat in the passenger seat, Nehme in the back, and his girlfriend Emily. We saw Ironman, which was pretty good, and its 12:30ish-am, no cars or people in sight. I see an animal in the road walking along the yellow lines. I figure its a racoon or skunk, getting closer I see its a cat. I slow a bit ease to the right, and it suddenly tries to cross the road before I get there. It doesn't make it. There's a crunching sound and I keep my cool, still driving, and thinking, 'oh shit, I feel sorry for the cat, I hope it's alright, though it didn't sound too good.' Nehme says 'wow' or something for which Emily later reprimands him. Pat is kinda phased but doesn't physically react. I continue driving to hear the consensus of the car. I get 10 feet before Emily screams that we have to turn around. I do without hesitating, though I wouldn't have if no one had said anything. We park at Friendly's where we see the sillohette of the cat dragging itself around and into the bushes. Emily frantically runs after, Nehme runs after to see what's happened to it, and Pat is trying to calm everyone down. I park, and suggest people not approach the guy because it's probably not feeling the love. It stays in the bushes and we watch it a little while, call the police non-emergency line and they send an officer. He was cool, and uses a noose thing to control it, while we dumpster dove a cardboard box and makeshift assembled it for him to put the cat in. He took it and drove off without getting our names or anything, and said the vet was called and said they'd take it.
The way the guy was running gave me the impression his hip was crushed. It's back legs bobbed about as it ran. As it sat in the bushes, it displayed no indicator of injury that humans would, no screams, pulsation, etc. It hissed when the officer got close though, and kept trying to bite him like a cobra. I kinda wished I had gotten the officers name and could follow up on what happened to the cat, though I assume it's going to be put down if its hip was crushed. It had no collar, though we were near Concord's closest comparison to a ghetto, what I call welfare square, where it may either be a stray or a house cat that an owner was to lazy or heroinized to get a collar for. Either way, after the officer drove off with it and life was good, I felt glad that I had stopped to help it. Also, thinking back now, an injured animal in a populated area could end up hurting a kid or something who went to pet it not realizing it's in extreme pain. But between when we called the police and they showed up (five minutes, a record for Concord PD) I went through my car, thinking of what the officer was going to give me shit about. There was a green tea bottle on the floor, which I turned so it said "green tea", so I wouldn't have to take it out and show that it was green tea and none of us had been drinking. In the seconds after I hit it I thought, do I legally have to report this? Either way, if I kept driving, no one would know. I thought about how even though I did nothing wrong, some asshole pet owner who values the animal over the life of a human would sue me or maybe even make my life hell for hurting/possibly killing 'their child'. When I heard the crunch, I wasn't even expecting to look back and see the thing limping away, it sounded more brutal than that.
As written, the NH law is you must report hitting a dog. Cat's just become road kill, though police won't ignore a cat call if you do hit one. I also thought about the rolling stop violation some cop gave me a few weeks ago, and I could see that shit popping up as outstanding for the officer that shows up, which of course will make me an asshole in his mind. I'm glad I wasn't ID'd because being a CJ student I know what it means when they ID, they suspect you of something. I used to think you weren't bothered if you weren't a criminal, I stopped beliving that once I graduated high school. Either way, I'm glad things turned out the way they did, aside from the cat getting hurt, but to be honest it really doesn't bother me much. Most people don't have the balls to admit that, or would say they care more than they do. I'm wondering if I should feel bad, or what people think of me not feeling all that bad. What judgment would there be of me had I not turned around? I may have felt bad about that later, especially thinking of the animal maybe hurting someone else. When I dropped everyone off at their cars, I told Emily I wouldn't have stopped if she hadn't said anything. She smiled and said, "I know, thanks."
I haven't read this over, but I can tell most people won't read it for length, and at this hour there's probably a few spelling errors. Hey, I might not even read it myself if I were you guys, thanks in advance. Consider this, the title is short enough that no replies will be denied because the subject is too long, that's always a plus.
Edit: What a strange coicidence that Nehme, Pat, and my friend Clogston who we met at the theatre appeared in the random image as I previewed this. Carry on.
If it's not consensual, it's not moral. Ever.
A friend of mine who's a part time officer in some hick town tells me how he sometimes gets calls in the middle of the night to euthanize a cow or horse on the side of the road. One time the shot to the head just pissed off the cow. Second shot it didn't protest much though.
If it's not consensual, it's not moral. Ever.
strangely enough the only animal i have actually hit was a bird. no idea if i killed it or not. hit the grill of the car, rolled up the hood and over the roof.
I just kept on driving.
I did have a friend of mine hit a horse before though.
Oh Jar Jar, every one hates you but me.
I wouldn't have cared or stopped either. It's too bad you don't have the option to follow up on events that involve both you and the law. My cousin took a purse from a guy who stole it from a car, and he never got a thank you or a fuck off. The cop came, took the purse, and later gave it to the lady, so my cousin never even got a thank you, we just waited around for the cop like assholes wasting our day, holding a purse. It didn't occur to me until later: how did the thief break the car window? I would have used a hammer or a wrench, some small tool that can fit in my pocket. Is that what he used? If the chemistry was right, might he have pulled it out and smacked my cousin with it?
I think your friend Emily didn't really do any harm, but the only real good she did was only of the cat's benefit. At the cost of her time and yours, and a cop's wage, and the wage of a vet who has to put the cat down, she saved the cat from being shoveled up after however many hours of excruciating pain. And like you said, the possibility of a child or something getting clawed. You also prevented the cat from dieing and bleeding all over the place and rotting until it got shoveled up by whoever, which is good if it had some sort of disease because it probably would have ended up in a secluded area and rotted for some time.
But I think that, mathematically, the energy put into that cat -the wages of the cop and vet, your time, even the wasted momentum of the car that you had to disturb from its forward motion- probably could have been used to save several cats. Not that it ever would have been. The cop probably would have just went down a main street to check out the skirts or went and bothered some teenagers if your area is as tame as mine, and you crazy kids were probably just out terrorizing the world with your new age music and hippy haircuts. Kidding. If this area isn't like mine, maybe somebody's purse got stolen on the officer's route while a cop was taxiing a dieing cat to a waiting needle.
So what we have here is a situation that has spawned something in favor of something that was dying anyway. A cat that got hit by a car was probably going to eventually get hit by a car anyway, it was just a matter of what car. What designed this situation was Emily, her decision to help a dieing cat. Well, life is oozing on this planet, pouring out of countless orifices, and a living dog is better than a dead lion. What good to waste life helping something that's dieing? No good at all but to that which is dieing, which will soon be dead and not only will it forget that you helped it, but it will forget that it was ever in pain or even alive.
If putting the cat out of its misery was 'good', then the act is unbalanced by the amount of bad it did. If a dieing cat is worth the energy of a living human, then surely a dozen or however many mice as the amount a cat would typically torture and kill in its life is worth the time of a human? If it's good for a living thing to help a smaller, lesser, dieing thing, then it could maybe be good for a human to have, instead of helping a cat, kill a cat, and save a dozen mice.
Now suppose somebody like my cousin who retrieved the purse were driving. Whenever he sees something in the middle of the road that isn't a dog or a person, he guns it and heads straight for the thing. He's killed a snake, a turtle, countless coons and squirrels, and several cats. I came into this thread believing his behavior was stupid but inconsequential, so I'll never stop at a conclusion on this matter. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever concluded anything in my entire life!
You can have it all, your highness.
Killing a turtle is just wrong, man...that's fucking sick!
As far as the cat, you never know, maybe the cat was a real douche-bag. Your car might be the bext thing that ever happened to that neighbourbood of cats, they're all still talking about it, "Haha, running across the road, late at night?! What an asshole!!" So yea, I guess in all you did a good thing, the cat will be put down, out of it's misery, but hey, maybe it had it coming...think about it!
I decapitated a racoon with my honda civic(he looked up to see what was going on and met the bumper of my car) & i made a small deer do a front flip with my toyota(clipped him in the ass with my headlight).
both cases i had blood and fur stuck somewere on the front of my car until it rained.
I hit a swan on the way to my second week (I think) of work at my first job. I got lost, was running a little late, and was stressed and pissed at myself, so when I first ran over the swan the first words out of my mouth were "Fuck Yeah!"
those words still terrify me. I just finished writing a movie to get over the experience. it wasn't as cathartic as I imagined it would be, but it helped.
The only thing I ever felt really bad about killing was the first chipmunk I shot with my BB gun. The second one I hit didn't bother me though. For the Obamas of the world, I don't feel good about killing living things, but there's business to be done. Obviously, the cat was not business, but meh. I talked to the Emily and the Nehme tonight about the cat experience and they said we should go to the PD at some point and inquire as to what fate befell the animal.
If it's not consensual, it's not moral. Ever.
Its nice that you stopped. Regardless of why you did it it was nice that you did. Its always a good thing to help someone or something out if you can. What you did do outweighs what you could have done.
I hit a raccoon once. I was on the highway going about 60 when the thing JUMPED in front of my car. It hit the windshield on its stomach with all its legs spread and then flew over the roof.
I didnt stop.

"Daddy doesn't want to hear Baby's ideas about dildos."
She'll kill herself for loving you and you'll kill yourself for loving her... but all you want to do is love eachother.
yeah, some animals you cant really do anything about. like raccoons, squirrels, and deer will usually come to you.
be carefull around deer. they can kill you if you hit them hard enough. lord knows i've had enough close calls around my parents house.
has anyone seen death race 2000?
I wouldn't be surpised if that cat never made it to a vet and instead was tossed in a dumpster.
My uncle hit a cow while driving in Mexico. The cow didn't clear the expressway fast enough or something and he hit it. Fucked up the front of his van. There was cow shit all over the place.
The only animal I recall runny over was a bunny. What made it worse is I ran it over on Easter morning. His basket full of chocolate and colored eggs exploded all over the street.
My aunt hit a turtle once... she felt really bad and made me promise not to tell my mother. Wasnt morey's dad in Deathrace 2000?!

"Daddy doesn't want to hear Baby's ideas about dildos."
She'll kill herself for loving you and you'll kill yourself for loving her... but all you want to do is love eachother.
A deer ran into my cousin's SUV...and not 'ran in front of', it literally plowed into his passenger side as he drove down the highway in the middle of the night. Scared the shiite out of him of course and though he took the care home I think the cops said it was not legal to drive.
As for being tossed in a dumpster, I'd doubt it since the cop was much nicer with the cat than I would have been. He tried forever to just grab it with his hand when we saw that wasn't going to work, before he did the lasso thing. I'm gonna try and find out tomorrow what happ'd.
If it's not consensual, it's not moral. Ever.








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