Authors You've Lost Respect For
Let's be honest, it takes some guts to put one's work out there and have it torn apart by critics whether it is a masterpiece worthy of the cult or some teen-shit paranormal drama however, there are some authors even the nicest of us just cannot stand.
For example, I read an interview with Nicholas Sparks in a family magazine that my parents subscribe to earlier and though I never particularly liked his work, the whole interview made me cringe.
Which author(s) don't tickle your fancy anymore?
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Yeah, pretty much.
I love Ender's Game but I think Orson Scott Card is a jackass.
Now now, don't ruin that for me.
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I only lose respect for authors that act like assholes - I'm looking at you Anne Rice.
Other than that, I will respect any author with the courage and dedication to write a book and get it published. Even Stephanie Mayer.
I agree, Pete.
What was cringy about it?
Awww. I'd be curious to know what you think about him after this interview.
You don't have to read it but it's cool how readers can take away something so different from what the author intended. I don't think it makes the book less good, just more interesting.
I've seen a couple of interviews with him. Seems like a decent guy.
The article already looks like it's set out to tear the guy a new one. *siiigh* I guess I'll read it.
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Anne Rice. I used to be mad about her books, I spent all my savings on the Vampire Chronicles, then she became weird.
Other than that, I will respect any author with the courage and dedication to write a book and get it published. Even Stephanie Mayer.
I agree.
That being said, "Son of Rosemary" - what the fuck, Ira Levin? Why, why, whyyyyyy did you write that? He's dead now, but maybe he would say he just needed the money if he were around to answer.
If he ever wrote anything after that I didn't bother to find out.
Even that guy who wrote and published The Pedophile's Handbook?!
You don't have to read it but it's cool how readers can take away something so different from what the author intended. I don't think it makes the book less good, just more interesting.
Wow. Okay, that interviewer is kind of a moron. I don't think she really understood much from the book, and she misinterpreted a lot of what Card was saying during the interview (I'm kinda surprised [but not really] that Card's childhood is pretty similar to mine). I agreed with Card on almost everything except for some of his economic opinions (which are, not surprisingly, the only thing the interviewer agrees with), and his views on homosexuality. Even then, the interviewer seems to think he's coming from a place of hostility as opposed to ignorance.
Ugh. I could go into details, but that'd wind up being an even longer article.
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You don't have to read it but it's cool how readers can take away something so different from what the author intended. I don't think it makes the book less good, just more interesting.
Wow. Okay, that interviewer is kind of a moron. I don't think she really understood much from the book, and she misinterpreted a lot of what Card was saying during the interview (I'm kinda surprised [but not really] that Card's childhood is pretty similar to mine). I agreed with Card on almost everything except for some of his economic opinions (which are, not surprisingly, the only thing the interviewer agrees with), and his views on homosexuality. Even then, the interviewer seems to think he's coming from a place of hostility as opposed to ignorance.
Ugh. I could go into details, but that'd wind up being an even longer article.
I knewwwww it.
What did you knowwwww?
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I figured that you'd dislike the interviewer and agree more with Card on the war stuff but not on marriage and definitely not on the communism stuff.
I don't. But funny that both you and her and me can like the same book so much.
It's just parts of the article like this:
“We’re perhaps overworking the term ‘violence,’” he says tightly. “The essence of good military command is to avoid violence. And in fact that’s what Ender did — the least possible violence in order to achieve the necessary end.” The least possible amount of violence? Ender commits genocide.
and this:
“My reading of ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’ — when I was 10 — probably has more to do with my returning to issues of violence. Reading about the soldier dashing the infant’s head against the wall, I sobbed like a baby. That was the beginning of my putting my brother’s and my conflict in perspective. He would never do that.” I bite back a sarcastic retort. Card’s brother was basically OK because he wasn’t as bad as the Nazis?
That just really made me...
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Douglas Copeland. I read waaaaay too much of him in one go and then ended up not liking him anymore.
I agree with the Anne Rice bit, and Stephanie Meyer is a poser. Her novels are just ridiculously inept and illogical.
Hrm. Lunar Park was disappointing by Easton-Ellis also but, I haven't lost respect for the man... yet.
Look up into the stars and you're gone.
I've never really liked him or his books, but Irvine Welsh's re-hash of Trainspotting (Skagboys) seems a bit pathetic.
Even that guy who wrote and published The Pedophile's Handbook?!
Damn you Ritt!
If he ever wrote anything after that I didn't bother to find out.
I've only read The Stepford Wives. I've always meant to read more of his stuff, but he always slips my mind when I'm buying books.
She may be a poser, but she's done more with her shitty writing than I've done.
I actually liked Lunar Park. Read it in a day. It's not typical Ellis, but it was an all right book.
“We’re perhaps overworking the term ‘violence,’” he says tightly. “The essence of good military command is to avoid violence. And in fact that’s what Ender did — the least possible violence in order to achieve the necessary end.” The least possible amount of violence? Ender commits genocide.
and this:
“My reading of ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’ — when I was 10 — probably has more to do with my returning to issues of violence. Reading about the soldier dashing the infant’s head against the wall, I sobbed like a baby. That was the beginning of my putting my brother’s and my conflict in perspective. He would never do that.” I bite back a sarcastic retort. Card’s brother was basically OK because he wasn’t as bad as the Nazis?
That just really made me...
The interviewer taking the Nazi thing like that and where ever she said that he had the homophobe's version of Tourette’s syndrome... those definitely made me...
But afraid all the gay stuff was still...
The word "poser" is still being used?
I agree with what Pete said about respecting writers by the way.
Yeah, have you forgotten Trueposer?
He wasn't really up to date when it came to the real world though.
Hahaha I laughed for real at this one. You're awesome!
But afraid all the gay stuff was still...
I can't see the second gif, but by the context and the link address, I imagine it was something like...
The gay thing, considering it's the only thing that would make me uneasy about the guy (I don't mind his economic views, considering moral intellectuals are inclined to believe regulation is a good idea, projecting their own values and intelligence onto the system), is kinda "meh" to me. He's obviously not directly opposed to it. He just thinks it's immoral, due to whatever hole of ignorance was left in his brain and plugged by his upbringing.
Throughout the whole thing, the interviewer projects her own abuse onto his, completely misreading what he was describing about his childhood, ultimately misreading most of everything he was saying about how it relates to the book.
And then the bit about Jung and Freud... Wow. This girl can be the poster-child of pseudo-intellectualism.
I might be exaggerating cuz I can't tell her this stuff in person, so it frustrates me.
Thanks a lot, jes. You transitively caused me frustration.
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I utilize a vintage vocabulary on occasion.
Look up into the stars and you're gone.
The gay thing, considering it's the only thing that would make me uneasy about the guy (I don't mind his economic views, considering moral intellectuals are inclined to believe regulation is a good idea, projecting their own values and intelligence onto the system), is kinda "meh" to me. He's obviously not directly opposed to it. He just thinks it's immoral, due to whatever hole of ignorance was left in his brain and plugged by his upbringing.
Throughout the whole thing, the interviewer projects her own abuse onto his, completely misreading what he was describing about his childhood, ultimately misreading most of everything he was saying about how it relates to the book.
And then the bit about Jung and Freud... Wow. This girl can be the poster-child of pseudo-intellectualism.
I might be exaggerating cuz I can't tell her this stuff in person, so it frustrates me.
Thanks a lot, jes. You transitively caused me frustration.
Thanks for fixing my gif, it was 50% of my agreement.
I see where you're coming from. But as far as causing you frustration.... that makes sense because...
- Ike - confidence, frustration, Ayn Rand, fully loaded staple guns
Predictable.
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It's "poseur".
Ernest Hemingway. He hasn't done shit in a while!
Eh, he's kind of an underground writer now.
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I like how cheesy the cult is lately.
It's not easy...
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That gif.
Pete, how can you like all writers? If somebody writes a horrible novel it ruins everything.
Scott Orson Scott Card Scott is a dickhead, but Hart's Hope is the shit.
Justin with the obvious response. Minus one point. Minus one point to Liberum for laughing at obvious response, and minus another point to Justin for overestimating Palahniuk in the first place, unless this is part of the thing where he's a gay who doesn't like gays, in which case he is exempt from the pointing system for being too gay and plus one to Liberum, though, on the gif, so he evens out, but with a bad flavor in my mouth because when I was seventeen and read Palahniuk and didn't overestimate him and worked night shift between two graveyards at a gas station, some really fat girl who worked at the psyche ward was drunk and ate an entire bag of cheetos in front of me and it was the worst moment of my life. That song was on, where he calls his ex girlfriend and says he has to be quiet because his girlfriend girlfriend is in the room, but she's an angel or something. One of the two. So an unsavory flavor, all around.
I threw up in my mouth a little.
Me too. Family Guy is disgusting.
I fucking hate Irvine Welsh!!!!
haha!
I know it's irrelevant, but I swear he's a repressed homosexual.
I don't like all writers. The questions was, "What authors have you lost respect for?" I pretty much can respect anybody that has the dedication to sit at their computer and pump out 150 pages. Even if it's a shitty 150 pages. The most I've managed to write is 25 shitty pages of story. So they're better than me.
Jo$eph $uglia (I don't want to spell his name right because that means he'll magically appear to troll this thread). And that's pretty much the reason I don't respect him. He writes reviews for Chuck's books with only one star that are just oozing with bitterness. Grow the fuck up and write. Don't worry about what other people are doing. The second you turn into a troll, you're doing it wrong.
I know it's irrelevant, but I swear he's a repressed homosexual.
This is especially funny because the other day on twitter Bret Easton Ellis said that once Irvine Welsh was trying to play fight with him and he thought he was trying to have sex with him.
I don't think we have to respect someone for writing a shitty book and getting published or (even worse) self publishing it. I wrote a REALLY shitty book when I was younger, truly awful, but thankfully realised it was shit and I'd only sent it to one publisher. Phew.
People's arrogance can power them through the novel writing process, not talent. I don't hate Twilight because it's popular, I hate it because it's fucking terrible. It's brain poison and a scary amount of people have lapped it up.
I also don't lose respect for authors who have written bad books amongst great ones. I can't think of an author I've "lost" respect for, actually. But there we are, I've said my piece! I've had my opinions! I'm happy.
I know it's irrelevant, but I swear he's a repressed homosexual.
This is especially funny because the other day on twitter Bret Easton Ellis said that once Irvine Welsh was trying to play fight with him and he thought he was trying to have sex with him.
See! The truth is unravelling slowly but surely!
This!! Ignorance is bliss! I went to a writers club once or twice, and there was this guy who was re-writing the bible... but from a new apostle's point of view. It didn't make sense at all.
I have a theory that writing turns people gay. That may just be because the one writer's workshop I've seen turned out to be a bunch of guys in a giant circle jerk.
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Not really.
But they did seem to just be complimenting each other rather than critiquing.
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Be careful criticizing writer's workshops, they'll gang up on you quick.
Eeewwwwww
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GANG RAPE
Exactly.
I've sort of started losing respect for J.K. Rowling.
She ended the series with an epilogue that read like a piece of badly written fanfiction and then started the Pottermore thing.
Chuck Palahniuk.