Any one read Rick Moody?

the ice storm, as in the connecticut adulterers living in sin in new canaan ice storm?

Yeah, that one. Damn, you're fast on the reply button...

they call me fast freddy, decalogue, whether i'm shucking oysters, drinking beer or closing sales. that's me.

There are times when that is not necessarily a good name to by which to be known...

But you knew that already.

So - have you read The Ice Storm? Seen the movie? Any good?

i confess to not having read the book or seen the film. i did see the trailers and thought kevin klein and sigourney weaver were excellent. i also live in westchester and commute everyday to work with many people from connecticut. in fact, maybe i'll rent it tonight on my way home. we should start a movie of the week thing. . . *ruminates further on the notion*

btw, i do get the reference you're making with respect to my sobriquet, fast freddy. that has only been a problem once or twice in my life. i'm in my thirties. shit happens to your privates that you wouldn't believe possible. plan for these changes now while you all feel potent, if you see what i mean.

Okay, you get to rent/watch to movie tonight and give me a report tomorrow. I, too, have seen snippets of it (the movie) & heard that it is supposed to be good. You get to do my research for me.

Being just shy of 35, I have been waiting for The Great Letdown, so far with no visible signs...

you have got to listen to more frank sinatra, friend. when i was seventeen . . . .

can we get away from the gross, old-weiner conversation?

i've read demonology and the garden state. fantastic, both. i didn't realize the movie ice storm was the same as the book ice storm, so i guess i'll be checking out both in the near future.

So, Garden State is a 'GO', then? Cool. I ordered Black Veil yesterday from Amazon. Because I wanted it in hardcover.

Yes, my weiner is old...
...but it still works marvelously!

dec, this is as much off-topic as your old weiner, but have you read michael chabon's mysteries of pittsburgh? i think you'll enjoy it if you haven't. i'm in the middle right now, and it's excellent.

i rented it and, well, aside from scenes with klein and weaver, there's much in the way of teenage eroticism. not my taste. now, as i said, i have not read the book, but would guess it's got to be better that the sceenplay. it wanders quite a bit and isn't sure about what the story really is until about mid-way through it.

this reviewer gives it a lukewarm thumbs down. read the book is my vote.

Moe - no, I haven't. I'll definately pick it up, though. Based on your recommendation.

Frams - Hrm... Moody's stories tend to wander about a lot. Which is part of the fun, but I can see that not working so well in a film.

Just grabbed it (Mysteries) at Half.com (hardcover, $2.) God, how I love Half.com....

two dollars?? wtf? it probably costs more to fucking ship it! what is this crazy site, and why haven't i ever been there before?

*scurrying off*

p.s. you'll love all the pitt references

doesn't ebay own half.com now?

As far as I know they always did. Yeah, Half rocks the used books & CDs. And yeah, the shipping was more than the book. But if that bothers you, you can choose to buy a more expensive copy...

I sometimes love Half.com but if you're buying hardcover for collecting you have to ask if its book club or remaindered or you might get screwed.

They do charge shipping Moe. but its still a deal. I bought a first print copy of Middlesex for $5 three days before Euginedes won the Pulitzer.

I also bought an advance reading copy of Jennifer Government for $2.

Good stuff

Yeah, I wouldn't go there for collectible material (though, they do have a Collectibles section) since you really can't _see_ what you're getting, but I'm pretty much into books for the words in them.

Best thing about Half.com? You just _buy_ what you want - no stupid bidding and waiting.

i don't collect books. i burn them. *maniacal laughter, strikes a match*

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by decalogue [/i]
[B]Yeah, I wouldn't go there for collectible material (though, they do have a Collectibles section) since you really can't _see_ what you're getting, but I'm pretty much into books for the words in them.

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Alright smarty pants, I too like books for the words in them but I also like beautiful books and bookshelves and collecting. I've always had a habit of buying hardcover first editions to support writers, especially new writers. Its nice when that stuff appreciates.

I bought/read The Virgin Suicides when it came out and brought it to a reading to be signed a couple of months ago. Jeffrey Euginedes handled the book and smiled and said, "This book looks read". That was nice.

are you selling any of your books on ebay?

Not at the moment but I did sell some nice Bowles and Bukowski's a while back to pay for some expensive dental work.

I kind of became *aware* of my collection a couple of years ago when a friend of a friend came to a dinner party and started browsing my shelves. I have a first print signed McCarthy 'Blood Meridian' and when he opened it and saw the signature he said "Oh my fuck, is this insured? and then fainted.

Well, he didn't faint and its still not insured. I bought it for $15 way back when because I had read it, loved it and wanted a hardcover edition. I found it signed and unsigned with the difference being $5. The last time I saw a copy on ebay it went for $2400.

I _used_ to collect books. I had a great collection. First edition hc of all vonnegut's books (up to 1990), rare & oop disertations on the meanings of Finnegan's Wake, tons of occult stuff... all kinds of things. Then my roommate became a meth-head and while I was in San Diego playing a weekend gig, he smoked everything I owned - books, 3000+ CDs, records, and tapes, all my clothes. Everything except the clothes on my back and the two guitars I had taken with me. This is how I ended up living in SD. All my Stuff was gone. I have a tendancy now not to get attached to material things - and I seriously mean in a bad way and to a fault... I throw stuff away, give it away, lose things... Hey, I was free to do anything, right?

mirkah, you should consider a career asa private banker.

decalogue, sounds to me like you and i have something in common: thieves for roommates.

i don't know if any of the books i have in my library (i did not say collection) are worth anything. we have some fine examples of balzac, a wonderful collection of dumas and a leather bound trio of hugo. plus, some very interesting histories. i need some dental work myself . . . *ruminates, sees $$$$ floating in front of his eyes*

Ah, jeez, that is seriously fucked up. I guess the only way to recover from something like that is not care anymore. Otherwise that kind of thing would just eat away at you forever.

It didn't even happen to me and my stomach is in knots thinking about that Kurt Vonnegut. I love his books. I'm actually suprised he doesn't get mentioned in reference to Palahniuk. When I first read Palahniuk I thought he was the new Vonnegut.

I have to say, I love my books. I love handling them and looking at them but I would sell them in a second if anyone in my family needed the money in a dire way.

Didn't Hemingway lose all his manuscripts at some point?

I was more in shock, I think. I kinda went to the guy and said,"Uh... is there anything left?" ("I dunno, man. Did you look in the garage?") Then I turned around and walked out.

CUT TO:

THE BAR. EXTERIOR. NIGHT

JACK and TYLER are leaving the bar.

Tyler
Just ask, man. If you need a place to stay, just ask...

[etc.]

we should do this again sometime.