Fallout 3 or Oblivion?

well, i have both. I really enjoyed fallout three. it seemed too easy to beat, though. I guess I should have put it on a harder difficulty. Oblivion is great even though I haven't got that far. I would say that they are both worth getting. but if you are short on money get oblivion seeings how it's cheaper. the sad thing about fallout three is that the level cap is twenty. I kind of wish it was higher.

Fallout 3's lvl cap is going to 30 in March/April.

yeah I do hear that once the game (main storyline) is over in Fallout you can't play anymore What was really cool about morrowind which I had for PC was the console, which I think is available for oblivion and fallout, but would work better with fallout. That's where you can type in things like "player->additem Chinese Assault Rifle" Or "player-> setlockpicking 100000". That would work great with fallout because I could probably just write down my stats before I finish the game and upload those stats and items to a new file. The beginning missions like Megaton stuff would be really easy but fun to explore more and do more side quests. I think that If I have sufficient funds, I would buy oblivion for like 30 dollars at the store for XBOX and fallout from a friend who is offering it at 25$ for PC. thanks though!

I was reading about fallout three for pc. it sounded really cool. I guess you can make your own quests and stuff. I think.

i think you can, I was diong a mission with my friend around right when u get to the brotherhood of steel headquarters, something called a GECK? its like a mini version of that but a real application for windows where u create classes and weapons and place them places. that would be awesome if u could like plug ur xbox into ur pc and download all that. but bill gates doesnt like our freedom.

i really enjoyed fallout 3 until about the halfway point, then the game kind of fell apart. i played it though to the end but was really disappointed. im a huge fan of the original two games and knew the third would be something completely different, but judging it as a game standing alone it still kind of let me down.

it was well written, but the last twenty minutes felt more like an interactive movie than a game... stats and gameplay got dropped completely.

mike, what's the hebrew say? im learning hebrew slowly, but that's a little past me.

haha i didnt think anyone would notice it. It's "I prayed for a different life."-narrator, fight club. are you taking a course for hebrew?

nah. it's a long story, but i had a cancer scare and kept dreaming i had hebrew scriptures written all over my body. i wound up getting something from song of songs done up in hebrew, and ever since i've been determined to learn more of the language.

i think hebrew names sound amazing, and i love that they all have meaning. im going the rosetta stone route.

funny you mention rosetta stone, since I'm using it as I type for school. Online French, works great and I recommend it. Anyway, I'm only 14 and had been taking hebrew at school since I was maybe 5, it's not very similar to english in the sense of grammar and characters, but it is a beautiful language to learn and you sound really funny speaking half english half hebrew with a strong accent. and the cchh sound you have to make in the back of your throat lol

I'm playing Fallout 3 right now. It's a good game, but I think I'm beginning to tire of it. With as much effort as they put into the awesome environment, you would think they could come up with more than 5 things to kill.

I also own both and I've beat both games but I gotta say I enjoyed Oblivion way more. Fallout 3 is awesome but Oblivion has far more side quests and things to discover.

Played both and enjoyed them both, but Oblivion has way more hours of gameplay than Fallout for roughly the same cash layout. That level cap in Fallout is what killed much of the additional exploring for me.

2 questions.

FIRST: Is a game's worth really based on the amount of hours it takes to beat? My favorite games are those you can beat in 10-15 hours. At leastyou don't get board of doing the same repetitive task. I suppose if you're 12 and only get 2 games a year it's important, but to most people I don't think that's the case.

SECOND: If you're enjoying exploring the world, what does the level cap have to do with anything?You might not be getting new abilities, but if you like the world, who gives a shit?

I only briefly played Oblivion, and the one thing I hated about it was it didn't do a good job of pushing you along the story path. When you get out of the dungeon, it basically says "OK, go do something". To me, it was too open-ended. Let the player do what they want, but make it clear to them what they should be doing.

Well the guy who first posted implied a choice between the two games due to limited funds, not limited time. Not sure if this means he's twelve though...

I too like games of varying lengths, but I prefered Oblivion because to me there was a great depth to the world, go anywhere, do anything.

Fallout - which I loved too by the way - had subquests, but not as many as Oblivion. The world didn't feel quite as perfectly explorable as Tamriel (I think it was called that), due to lots of expanses of wasteland. And I enjoyed it, but what I mean is I did the subquests and the main quest & was 20 well before the end with moderate exploring. I didn't hit 20 then quit the game or anything.

Good points.

I do think Bethesda has greater intent on expanding the Fallout world than they did Oblivion, though. They obviously added the Anchorage expansion, and next month they are adding the Pittsburgh one (which will change the cap to 30, and even adds new perks). I'm not sure what their plans are after that, but it seems promising that they are already doing that much.

Yeah I'd heard they were adding some expansiony stuff, I've not looked into it. Thanks for the reminder, will go do it now.

"In this DLC pack, the player will journey to the industrial raider town called The Pitt, located in the remains of Pittsburgh. Although Pittsburgh was not hit directly by an atomic bomb, the surrounding water still became radiated making the people change in bad ways. In contrast to Operation: Anchorage, the Pitt will involve a more traditional questline with lots of morally ambiguous choices, twists and turns. It is announced to add about 4-5 hours worth of gameplay.

Apparently The Pitt will be accessed via underground railroad, and will probably be loaded as a separate map from the Capital Wasteland. The Lone Wanderer will go there disguised as a slave in order to join, or usurp, a tribe of raiders that have taken over the steel yards there"

.....GI: What new features/creatures/weapons/locations can players expect to encounter in The Pitt?
Gardiner: Without spoiling everything, The Pitt contains all of the above! There’s an “AutoAxe,” a melee weapon comparable to the ripper but with a huge, serrated rotary blade. There are three new perks including “Auto Axpert,” which will give the player a boost in damage when they’re using the new AutoAxe. Pittsburgh itself is infected with “Trogs,” creatures that were once human but slowly devolved into scampering mutants who fear the light and fight in packs. Many iconic locations in Pittsburgh are modeled in the game; several of our developers are from the city and their first hand knowledge is on full display!

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Very nice, thanks for that. I like the choice driven storyline - that gives replayability for me.

seeing that, i think you should get fallout three. To kirk: the level cap gives you more of a reason to play. But I agree with you on oblivion. they don't give you much to work off of. i'm not even that far into the game and i'm having troubles with a quest. And i'm not even sure what i'm doing wrong. So i decided to start a new game on fallout three.

Oblivion is also awesome cause the enemies are leveled. So no matter what level your character is there will always be some sort of challenge to every quest.

yeah i think that is a cool aspect of the game. and also, I have no financial restrictions

Granted it wasn't your comment that this is in reference to, but personally I don't care for constantly-scaling enemies in an RPG. When you level up and get new abilities, you should be more badass and powerful than you used to be. By the end of the game, the commoners should just be totally trivial to you.

You continue to make it challenging by moving you into areas that have more powerful enemies. Areas you wouldn't have even tried entering at he onset of the game.

i agree. fallout 3 failed to balance difficult battles for leveled characters, but there's something wrong with having a hard time killing off the same creatures that challenged you when you first entered a gameworld after investing some real effort on a character.

Well, you could still be badass going up against leveled enemies...I had no problem with it. I thought it was awesome. I didn't go back and kill any commoners like I did in Morrowind but as far as enemies go...locations that were infested by rats are now infested with daedra. I can still kill them with one or two hits and it wasn't as boring as killing a rat and I got better loot out of it.

Also, I like Oblivion more cause you get to play as different characters and races.

Also,

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there is no doubt : Oblivion

This is my recommendation. Wait. Fallout 3 game of the year edition is being released later this year. When that happens buy a used copy of the original Fallout 3 release, rent the game of the year edition to copy the extra content to your hard drive, and you're getting your money's worth.

Fallout 3 is relatively short. There seems to be no middle ground. While Oblivion is overwhelming at times, leading you to ask yourself is it worth spending hours traveling back and forth from a dungeon that took you three days to raid to sell all of the loot you've collected, Fallout is exactly the opposite. It's too small, too short in comparison. Without the expansion, you can only make it to level 20, which you will do about half way through the game if you do the occasional side quest here and there along the way.

With the DLC (that you can get for practically nothing renting the GOTY edition once released) raises the level cap to 30 and allows you to continue playing once the main quest is beaten.

Obviously, Oblivion has greater customization with the different classes, but after playing through FO3, shooting arrows while running backwards, leaving the dungeon, resting and reentering to finish off one guy at a time is not as gratifying as a VATS + proxi mine combo, nor is it as balanced.

The reality is fallout's environment, while smaller, is more varied. When Oblivion is stripped down, it is only an illusion of grand scale size. Oblivion is really just a treadmill in front of a forest, with an oblivion gate over here and a dungeon to raid over there.

But seriously. just hold out for FO3:GOTY edition and follow my scheme. it works. extra DLC discs aren't required to be in the system to play, because obviously you'll have to have the main game disc in the tray. The money you save then will allow you to go ahead and pick up a copy of each. cheers.

This might seem a little (Okay, a lot) biased coming from a guy with Vault Boy as his avatar, but Fallout 3 is undoubtedly the better game. For starters, it does away with all of the things about Oblivion that drove me crazy. Namely:

The ridiculous leveling system - Sure, most people complain about the Fallout level cap only going to 30, but at least you don't have to worry about leveling yourself into a corner skill-wise, or grinding the same particular action over and over again until you're positive you'll get the maximum points in that skill when you level up again. Fallout gives you experience for killing, lock-picking, hacking, fast-talking, and when you level up you can upgrade your skills as you see fit. Easy as pie.

Being unable to move when you're over-encumbered - This seems like a minor gripe until it actually happens to you. In Oblivion you can be loaded down with goodies, pick up a kick-ass new sword, and instantly you're stuck in place until you decide what you want to get rid of. God forbid this happens in the middle of a battle or (as it usually does) on the bottom floor of some cave. Fallout just drops your overall movement speed, still allowing you to plod your way back to a locker or something. Trust me, this saves a ton of grief and backtracking.

The repetitive talking system - Want a better price on stuff? Just increase your barter skill. No more of talking a shopkeeper's ass off just to save five bucks.

The same generic setting - This one I'll probably take some heat for but, honestly, do you really need to play in another generic fantasy setting? Let me give you the gist of every Oblivion quest:

"Hail Grakthor! We, the Seven Holy Blades of Uragoem request your assistance in obtaining the four sacred stones of Zubazuba! Make haste to the hamlet of Flogenham and speak with Wendelor the Ancient, for he will..."

Zzzzzz...

Compare that with a post-apocalyptic Washington DC, and (providing you pick up the expansions) a Chinese-invaded Alaska, slave-trading Pittsburgh, and mutant redneck-infested Maryland. The entire setting is oozing with originality and unique places to explore.

I could go on for days. A kickin' 50's soundtrack, more forthcoming expansions, BOBBLE-HEADS!

Trust me on this one, Fallout 3 is arguably the best game ever made.

Buy it.

Vanilla Oblivion makes me snoozy. You need to mod the fudge out of it for it to be worth playing more than once.
I totally redid my toon as a ninja. I lived up in a dojo in the mountains. I used a mod to remove the tutorial and set me off on 'ninja' missions right away. Always fun.
That being said. After saving the entire world single-handedly it annoys me how the guards say "Move it lowly citizen!" And thieves still try to rob you. Bitch please. I killed a Demonic God.

Fallout is amazing and is easily the best console game I play. But I think there needed to be some variation in enemies. I got bored of shooting heads off of Ghouls after a while.

Anyone know if the DLC is available on PS3? I've explored everything three times over I need newness!

EDIT: Demonic God? Hmmmm. He was the God of one of the Demonic planes. Yes he was.

Yep, all the expansions are heading your way! Operation Anchorage is slated to be downloadable on the PSN at the end of June (which I suppose means any day now), Followed by The Pitt 4 - 6 weeks from that, followed by Broken Steel 4 - 6 weeks from that. I assume Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta will be available within the same timeframes, but they haven't been officially announced yet. Don't worry though, they're coming. By the time you've caught up on the first three expansions, Microsoft's timed exclusive contract with the newest stuff should be over.

You have made me a very happy man (:

Glad to know it I wrapped up Point Lookout last night and, wow, such a great expansion. The best one yet, if you don't count the fact that Broken Steel raised the level cap and added a bunch of new perks and stuff. You've got some of the best Fallout 3 still ahead of you, my friend!

Im not into RPGs but i have to say i like Oblivion better because of the freedom it provided, plus now it is so cheap to grab the GOTY edition.

Oblivion looks like crap in HD, although I never thought Oblivion was that pretty of a game in the first place. besides the indoor spaces like the ruins, the rest of the game looked pretty bad, pop ins galore. Morrowind had a better way of hiding this by using fog. In fact, if you still have an Xbox, I'd get Morrowind over Oblivion. It's a much, much better game.

I'm still waiting for the Game of the year edition for Fallout 3 to come out before I get it. I'd get that over Oblivion and just ignore the main story altogether and do the sidequests if you don't want the game to end.

also there's a new bundle of Bioshock and Oblivion for the 360 at $40.

I liked fallout 3 a lot, but have never played oblivion, but I was wondering if the expansions are worth picking up for Fallour 3, since they're relitively cheap.

I got them the other day - was really enjoying them. The new level cap & perks, plus some new areas, quests and storylines that are quite gripping. I loved the anchorage one.

you'll need the Broken Steel DLC if you plan on playing the game after you've completed the main quest. If you don't the credits roll and the game just ends like any other game.

If you can wait, try holding out until October when the Game of the Year Edition comes out. comes with the game and ALL of the DLC for $60.