tried to start a fight club in my highschool a few years ago

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[QUOTE=Thrincubus]I'm not sorry, man. I'm just saying your 100% right in everyhting you've said. Life is not about who you seem to be it's about who you are, or at least should be. thats why people after cobaine died cut their hair off and started wearing doo rags or whtever. it's not about what everyone else is its about what you are. mungkay, try to open up your mind a little to the possibility that trying something you see on tv or read in a book or see in a movie isn't terrible as long as you get something out of it. that's what life is about. its about learning from experiences, good or bad and comming out on the other side with greater knowlege.

Im not going to trash corporate art and franchise coffee bars because I think project mayhem is cool. I'm not going to have a demolition derby in my back yard because I think Bam Margera is funny. Don't try to act so enlightened. and certainly don't try to force your enlightenment on other people through criticism. if you really understood my point in this thread than maybe you could realize that its not just about fighting or emulation. its about self expression and self discovery. You think that because I like the movie trainspotting I'm gonig to do heroin? or the terrance and phillip movie makes me want to light my farts on fire? no way, pal. don't spend so much time criticizing and open up a little.

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thanks for the life lesson grandma. jesus christ... sounds like an ode to self-help. peanut butter and fluff anyone? self-discovery? i think we all know the truth about ourselves. that's probably why the idea of getting in a fight scares us. we know we'd lose and we dread it. of course by avoiding fights we are able to convince ourselves that we can kick anyone's ass. this is why a fight club is a good idea. destroy that guy who makes up all the reasons why not.

mungkay is just looking for easy prey and you were it. my advice is stop paying him so much attention.

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[QUOTE=Thrincubus]I tried to start a fight club in my high school a few years ago but the kids had no spine and ouldn't take a hit to the face. rediculous right? I had a great time though. it lasted like six months before everyone else backed out because coming home with bruises and scars wasn't going over well with their parents. anyone else have similar experiences?[/QUOTE]
Wow these people are buggin'. My friends started a fight club around my freshman year in high school and I thought it was rediculous until I saw the looks on their faces after it was all over. They were happy. As much as [U]Fight Club[/U] was not about violence it was in a trumendous way about finding your inner strength through something, that something was violence. I don't think it's necessary to attack someone for their experiences. Personally, I think this individual clearly understood what the book was about and there is no need to treat him like a child.

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[QUOTE=dzudzu]After reading this thread, I say Mungkay has never been in a fight and that's why he's such a wuss about it.[/QUOTE]
agreed. the reason he's so resentful is he knows that a 12 yr old girl could kick his ass. so he resorts to hurling insults on threads cuz its a safe way to unleash his self loathing.

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[QUOTE=trypdwyre]you guys are saying "what's wrong with being in a fight" he's saying "what's wrong with not being in a fight". their both stupid questions. you're not asking their answer, you're just asking to hopefully make an ass outta someone. i know plenty of people who claim to have never been in a fight. they're normal people, and are comfortable with that fact. i know plenty of people who have been in fights, they're normal people, and are comfortable with that fact. so why try to argue that one's better than the other?

and this is the reason i stay out of these threads usually, they have very little substance to go on other than bickering over what's cooler/better. no big deal either way, just get on with your life...[/QUOTE]
there is a bigger issue here. is it cooler to "rise above" everything without really evaluating it? when do you stop rising? i imagine omniscience is a lonely state.

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[QUOTE=ireLocus] ...that's cool with me...[/QUOTE]

you said cool! what's that all about? you crossed the line buddy... now i'm gonna make fun of you! i just gotta make sure that everyone will decide that i'm cool instead of you. how can i put that into words? let's see...

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[QUOTE=Vampire_IQ]There isn't anything wrong or right with getting in a fight.

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[QUOTE=shpongleyesd]agreed. the reason he's so resentful is he knows that a 12 yr old girl could kick his ass. so he resorts to hurling insults on threads cuz its a safe way to unleash his self loathing.[/QUOTE]

Wow. I better make sure my posts contain no spelling errors or you just might make me cry with your scathing wit.

Let me know when you're done with the bullshit posturing and we'll see if I can pencil you in for a cult interview...and make sure you have your book of basic forum insults handy so you can insult my age, race, geographical location, sexual orientation, intelligence level, fighting prowess, sexual performance, penis size etc., and become the Cult's newest anti-hero.

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[QUOTE=mungkay]I last fought four years ago when I was still a bouncer. Broken nose that's still crooked on the left side, a minor consussion and a half pint of blood lost.

I didn't get in it to be cool, I did it because I was on the job and some guy weighing 150 soaking wet was getting the life choked out of him by someone twice his size.

So...uh yeah.[/QUOTE]
so.... you got your ass kicked then? no hidden message just asking.

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[QUOTE=Thrincubus]it's all good man. like i said, i got no beef, for lack of better words. I hear what your saying about all of it and your right about fighting being more serious than a lot of people take it. regardless, everyone has their own agenda and whatnot and will express it the way they want to.

ps, I've been a bouncer/bartender/barback whatever and gotten in a few nasty situations myself. It's a different scenario when its anger focused on that particular person.

PLUR[/QUOTE]
yah fighting is ugly.

but peace is so boring!

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[QUOTE=shpongleyesd]so.... you got your ass kicked then? no hidden message just asking.[/QUOTE]

I dunno...he was wearing a ring which broke my nose and cut it open, other than that, it was blow for blow until he ran away.

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[QUOTE=mungkay]Wow. I better make sure my posts contain no spelling errors or you just might make me cry with your scathing wit.

Let me know when you're done with the bullshit posturing and we'll see if I can pencil you in for a cult interview...and make sure you have your book of basic forum insults handy so you can insult my age, race, geographical location, sexual orientation, intelligence level, fighting prowess, sexual performance, penis size etc., and become the Cult's newest anti-hero.[/QUOTE]
thanks. i'm glad to know that my work is appreciated.

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[QUOTE=mungkay]I dunno...he was wearing a ring which broke my nose and cut it open, other than that, it was blow for blow until he ran away.[/QUOTE]
hmm... sounds painful. i've heard something and maybe you can verify it. i've heard that its easier to fight when you are protecting someone else than it is when you are protecting yourself. from my experience i agree. what do you think?

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[QUOTE=shpongleyesd]there is a bigger issue here. is it cooler to "rise above" everything without really evaluating it? when do you stop rising? i imagine omniscience is a lonely state.[/QUOTE]
i just don't see a need to over analize every last happening in one's life. it's not rising above, it's just dealing with and moving on.

and kid, lay back with the obsession on this thread. most people post, and then wait for a response...

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[QUOTE=trypdwyre]i just don't see a need to over analize every last happening in one's life. it's not rising above, it's just dealing with and moving on.

and kid, lay back with the obsession on this thread. most people post, and then wait for a response...[/QUOTE]
thanks for the tip, sport. i came late and i was responding to posts that i saw, tiger. and overanalyzing is a relative term defined by how much you believe something should be analyzed. if people used a common definition for over analysis we'd either have none of this technology or everone would be doing what you call over analysis, big guy.

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[QUOTE=shpongleyesd]thanks for the life lesson grandma. jesus christ... sounds like an ode to self-help. peanut butter and fluff anyone? self-discovery? i think we all know the truth about ourselves. that's probably why the idea of getting in a fight scares us. we know we'd lose and we dread it. of course by avoiding fights we are able to convince ourselves that we can kick anyone's ass. this is why a fight club is a good idea. destroy that guy who makes up all the reasons why not.

mungkay is just looking for easy prey and you were it. my advice is stop paying him so much attention.[/QUOTE]

I don't know too many people who know the truth about themselves, honestly. I don't know it either. Also, what's so wrong with self help? Do what makes you feel good, whether it be fighting with your friends or meditating, or group sex, whatever gets you off.

I'm not your grandmother, guy.

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This guy's right - give others a chance to input. Am new to this so go easy;
Im actually searching for a fight club to join at the moment. There's always the option of startin one up myself, but knowing my mates they would either be too pussy about it, or wouldnt have the same views on it as me. The plain fact is that life is a-fucking-borin-drear of endless repetition. I'm sick shitless of it, and need some sort of escape. Not to mention some exitement. At least once a week.
Ive only ever been in one fight- not braggin -but fucked the other guy up bad. So never really tried being on recieveing end of it. The guy was a mate, and is an even better one now because of it. Sharing such an experience, has brought us closer.
Has anyone actually had a fight club going, that lasted?

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[QUOTE=shpongleyesd]thanks for the tip, sport. i came late and i was responding to posts that i saw, tiger. and overanalyzing is a relative term defined by how much you believe something should be analyzed. if people used a common definition for over analysis we'd either have none of this technology or everone would be doing what you call over analysis, big guy.[/QUOTE]
"sport...tiger...big guy" man, i'm not interested in you.

i'm only saying, give people a chance to digest your initial thoughts. double posting is odd, triple posting makes people think you've got an "issue" and you go off on a, what was it, a couple of strings of 5 posts. relax, take a few breaths, see what people think in response to your posts.

as for the overanalyzing, who cares what could have been, what might have been. it fucking wasn't. overanalyzing has it's place, i doubt this thread is much of a good place for it. my piece is stated. enjoy your stay here.

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[QUOTE=TheRealignerOfUrPercptn]This guy's right - give others a chance to input. Am new to this so go easy;
Im actually searching for a fight club to join at the moment. There's always the option of startin one up myself, but knowing my mates they would either be too pussy about it, or wouldnt have the same views on it as me. The plain fact is that life is a-fucking-borin-drear of endless repetition. I'm sick shitless of it, and need some sort of escape. Not to mention some exitement. At least once a week.
Ive only ever been in one fight- not braggin -but fucked the other guy up bad. So never really tried being on recieveing end of it. The guy was a mate, and is an even better one now because of it. Sharing such an experience, has brought us closer.
Has anyone actually had a fight club going, that lasted?[/QUOTE]

All I had was the one I started in high school. it was pretty juvenile, nothings special. we had a good time with it and most people didn't realoly take it seriously. there were only a handful of us. I had found a website, i don't remember what it was, with a list of some fight clubs that had sprung up in the us. keep up the search.

by the way, (in response to another comment) this is not overanalyzing, at least I don't see it that way. the book/movie is completely deserving of analyzation and discussion. theres nothing wrong with a little analyzation even overanalyzation. if nothing else it's spawned a good thread, I think. a little chaotic and back and forth but a lot of good points were made by a lot of cool people, as well as some bad points. who cares. thats what a forum is all about.

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shpongleyesd, you're from Colorado. so am i. we should start a fight club!

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Wish I could join you guys in that, but i think london's a bit too far away. Shame ur not over here. In all seriousness though- I am gonna keep up the search, but dont think there are too many of them over here. All i can seem to dig up is club's that discuss the book and film. Dont get me wrong, it's all well and good on here, but it's hardly an escape from reality. And nobody have a go at me for this but i have never actually read the book- i take it it's recommended it heavily. Tried to get hold of it the other day, but couldnt find it anywhere. Think i know of a place that will do it though.
As for the analysation thing- i think fight club is more worth overanalysing than absolutely anything else i can think of. And that's without even having read the book. Extract every last drop of what's to be got from it's messages i say.

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smart man, you are.

next time Im in london I'll look you up and we'll go a few rounds pal.

I just started reding this book actually the day I joined this forum. It's awesome. I'm not going to say its better or worse than the movie, some people may not like that, but chucks writing is fantastic. theres things in the movie not in the book, there's things in the book not in the movie, as to be expected, but definetely check it out. this is coming from a guy who hates reading.

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smart man, you are. Cheers.

next time Im in london I'll look you up and we'll go a few rounds pal.

I just started reding this book actually the day I joined this forum. It's awesome. I'm not going to say its better or worse than the movie, some people may not like that, but chucks writing is fantastic. theres things in the movie not in the book, there's things in the book not in the movie, as to be expected, but definetely check it out. this is coming from a guy who hates reading.

Anonymous

Sounds good, will definately check it out. I mean- the film's fuckin brilliant, and i dont really wanna expect too much of the book, incase it doesnt live up to the quality of the film. But you're making it sound really cool, so will try and lay my hands on a copy as soon as poss.

Still on the look out for a club, suppose all i gotta do is cross the line between thinking about joining one, and actually doing it. Asked my mate to hit me the other day, looked at me like i was a fuckin loon, but got him to do it once i persuaded him i was serious. Felt great. When you're day is that shit borin, something like that is just what you need.

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[QUOTE=Thrincubus]I don't know too many people who know the truth about themselves, honestly. I don't know it either. Also, what's so wrong with self help? Do what makes you feel good, whether it be fighting with your friends or meditating, or group sex, whatever gets you off.

I'm not your grandmother, guy.[/QUOTE]
self-help is coo, if you are really helping yourself and not making more excuses for yourself. that's another ingenius thing about a fight club. you can't really argue about what happened or make excuses which i think is kind of liberating.

i know you're not my grandma, you just sounded like her for a sec.

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[QUOTE=izen]shpongleyesd, you're from Colorado. so am i. we should start a fight club![/QUOTE]
PM me if you like. i'd like to see what i'm made of.

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[QUOTE=trypdwyre]"sport...tiger...big guy" man, i'm not interested in you.

i'm only saying, give people a chance to digest your initial thoughts. double posting is odd, triple posting makes people think you've got an "issue" and you go off on a, what was it, a couple of strings of 5 posts. relax, take a few breaths, see what people think in response to your posts.

as for the overanalyzing, who cares what could have been, what might have been. it fucking wasn't. overanalyzing has it's place, i doubt this thread is much of a good place for it. my piece is stated. enjoy your stay here.[/QUOTE]
i think i'm fine. i've read your advice and choose not to take it. if i wanna respond to posts as i see them i will. you don't have to read my posts. if you want to refute my arguments, that's fine too. otherwise i'm not listening. so don't bother with the advice professor.

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it all depends on why you would do it, i would bet 90% of the people that made a fight club in real life just thought fighting was cool, saw the movie and said "oh wow, they fight and its a cool movie, lets make a fight club" yet they miss the whole meaning of the movie and just think its cool that they fight. thats the pathetic thing

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While reading this thread, I recall one of you saying something about fighting conformity in all it's forms.

It always makes me chuckle to see people conform to fight conformity. For example, an episode of the Simpsons comes to mind...Bart decided to "rebel" and get an earing. Upon discovering this, his sister Lisa said..."Ooo, how rebelious...in a conformist sort of way".

Fighting conformity has nothing to do with starting/joining any club. Regardles whether it's "good" or "bad".

To throw another quote out there..."Think for yourself and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet"

Funny how in the movie, all of the members conformed to the will of the heirarchy. At that point they no longer fought the power, they became the power. How rebelious....in a conformist sort of way.

To be an individual, an island unto yourself, with all of your unique ideas and values, acting and thinking with no regard to others opinions (good or bad) is the only path to freedom. Lonely, but honest.

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[QUOTE=Fats Vernon]While reading this thread, I recall one of you saying something about fighting conformity in all it's forms.

It always makes me chuckle to see people conform to fight conformity. For example, an episode of the Simpsons comes to mind...Bart decided to "rebel" and get an earing. Upon discovering this, his sister Lisa said..."Ooo, how rebelious...in a conformist sort of way".

Fighting conformity has nothing to do with starting/joining any club. Regardles whether it's "good" or "bad".

To throw another quote out there..."Think for yourself and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet"

Funny how in the movie, all of the members conformed to the will of the heirarchy. At that point they no longer fought the power, they became the power. How rebelious....in a conformist sort of way.

To be an individual, an island unto yourself, with all of your unique ideas and values, acting and thinking with no regard to others opinions (good or bad) is the only path to freedom. Lonely, but honest.[/QUOTE]

So.... what did you edit?
Oh by the way, I want peas.

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Had to think about this one, it's been about a week.In my original post I referred to the "thread" as a "post".....so I changed it. Exciting eh?

Anyhoo......"peas"? ....What's that about? are you from "The Scene"?

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[QUOTE=Fats Vernon]Had to think about this one, it's been about a week.In my original post I referred to the "thread" as a "post".....so I changed it. Exciting eh?

Anyhoo......"peas"? ....What's that about? are you from "The Scene"?[/QUOTE]

It's from the Simpsons episode you referred to.

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They start fight club because after a fight nothing else matters - if youve had a shit life then geting in a fight can make things better - everything become funny rather than bad - getting made fun of doesnt matter

 

it can be really good 4 people - i thing one woud be a good idea - i would love one

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I heard about some of my old friends starting a "fight club" after i told them about the movie but it was really lame they used boxing gloves and made bets and whatnot. In highschool, burning yourself with cigarette buts is as close to enlightenment as i've ever achieved

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Look, I had a very similar experience. But my fight club only lasted about 3 gatherings (3 Saturdays). It did make me a better person, because I made sure to invite and challenge a variety of opponents. Everyone got to fight someone smaller, someone bigger, and someone similar in stature. Before then, I had never been in a fight. It was exhilarating, and I'd do it all over again. The idea of a fight club in the movie was based on the idea that us men are all very effeminate in modern society. Because of that, most of us have never been in a fight, despite the bullshit you hear from everyone claiming to have scrapped so many times. Such physical interaction, emotional output, and creative dominance is important to the male psyche, and most of us were deprived of it. That's what the meaning of it was in the movie, and that's what this guy, and some of the rest of us, are trying to revive in ourselves. That's fantastic for you guys that were always brawling growing up that you can criticize this guy, but you have no idea what it's like to not know what you're capable of against a man in your most primal condition. We should all experience this in our lives, and continue to strive towards these experiences for the sake of our own ability to overcome any issues we might have in our lives, and trust ourselves to do what we can. Shame on all of you for being so judgmental of those of us who embraced these ideologies.

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Dude, you keep responding to these threads that are made up of people that don't even come here anymore. You're better off saving your energy.

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I find the facebook gimmick www.welcometoFC.com gives me a nice metaphorical kick in the ass as opposed to a literal face bashing.

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i can't believe fight club is still influencing people so prevalently.

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^^ Yeah me neither. I found a pretty cool NY Times article about when it came out and the social climate then and now, etc. It's a good read...http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/movies/homevideo/08lim.html?_r=1&sudsredirect=true