The Tyler Durden hypocricy
I agree; Tyler's clothing visually manifests Jack's perception of what Tyler stands for. In the beginning of his friendship with Jack, Tyler is dressed as the ultra-"macho" epitome of fashion-transcending grunge. Once Jack is disillusioned by Tyler's preoccupation with anti-wealth, the glorified male icon is reduced to a flamboyant (good word, VC) and senselessly self-indulgent entity. Tyler's later inclination to down-right showy clothes manifest his obsession with making statements instead of meaning them.
And several posts to the same effect: Interesting point, I hadn't thought about that.
I think Tyler earns the right to wear his gaudy outfits simply because he fully understands and accepts the things he speaks of. He doesn't let his khakis determine who he is and so he's free to wear khakis if he wants to.
Any yahoo can wear cheap clothes in defiance of the establishment, but it takes a man who's fully in control of his own life to wear whatever he wants without regard to any superstitions or taboos - even his own.
Imagination is my religion.
Hahaha, I would have if you didn't.
rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies
haha. Just like Al gore preaches about the o-zone layer, yet flies everywhere in a private jet, or how the smoker tells others never to smoke because it's bad for you, and addictive. They in effect are reinforcing what they're saying, solidifying their claim,illustrating that THEY THEMSELVES cannot escape these bounds. Yes hypocritical, but NOT contradictory. This just strengthens his contention. I'm really just paraphrasing from a magazine article which i failed to find on the internet to cite, but it explained how for years and years hypocricy has been one of the strongest and most suggestive devices in rhetoric.
So yes, he's hypocritical, but not in a "ha, you don't practice what you preach" sense, but more of an "overtly hyprocitical, as to reinforce his notions" sort of way.
QFT.
Most of what Pitt wore in the film was 20 year old thriftstore finds.
This is true as well.
With regards to the Klein Bottle theory, if someone hides something in a room, and you don't know where it is, and for example you look in closet, the bottle technically is EVERYWHERE, except in the closet, because that is the only thing you can be sure of, and since you are not looking at everywhere else, it is technically everywhere. I'm horrible at explaining it, but it's very cool, check it out. Anyways, the same applies to the narrarators name. You can't say his name isn't Jack, because you don't know what his name is. Taking that into regard, his name IS Jack.
Thanks. I Really just wanted to plug "Klein Bottle".
When the last living thing Has died on account of us, How poetical it would be If Earth could say, In a voice floating up Perhaps From the floor Of the Grand Canyon, "It is done. People did not like it here"
Keep your stick on the ice.
“Fuck off with your sofa units and strine green stripe patterns, I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may.”
“You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.”
“We're consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty, these things don't concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy's name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.”
My question is, why is Tyler Durden seen wearing a retro leather jacket, a silk buttoned down collared shirt, sunglasses, black slacks, and tan loafers when he preaches against that kind of life style? Even when the narrator comes to the realization that they are the same person and Tyler takes on a new appearance, he is still seen in expensive and unneeded attire.
It's quite simple really. He's dressed like a hobo.
He is just sure not to be, shall we say, nasally offensive like a hobo.
There's no rhyme or reason to his attire. I don't see it as expensive, they look like thrift store crap.
Everyone has goals; if nothing else, to obtain the physical necessities of life: food, water and whatever clothing and shelter are made necessary by the climate. But the leisured aristocrat obtains these things without effort. Hence his boredom and demoralization.
You can't be wrong with art. I think you offered a good analysis.
Everyone has goals; if nothing else, to obtain the physical necessities of life: food, water and whatever clothing and shelter are made necessary by the climate. But the leisured aristocrat obtains these things without effort. Hence his boredom and demoralization.
Tyler is what Jack wants for himself, he wants to be flash and cool in a way. also Tyler was made to look like Jack wants. everything he wears is something Jack might have seen and thought, cool!
or I'm completely off base.[/QUOTE]
No, I think you are completely right. Tyler is the handsome, cool, sleek guy that The Narrator wants him to be. Since he is basically the inner mind of The Narrator, and all, he takes on all of those qualities.
Also agreed. Tyler is the image he would like to see himself as. His perfect self image. Another part was as they were making fun of the Calvin Kline models saying "Is that what a man looks like?" I mean Tyler does look like that. Which plays along to this theme.
Work (Haiku)
Stalking from his cube
Waiting, life's residual
The hunter is tamed
Even if that somebody didn't realize there was a second page and that people were no longer quoting three-word lines...
I don't care.