Question: Film, Novel, or Both?

watch movie then book i think but thats just because i did like that.
and he might complain about them not filming the heaven scenes ya know
i was so hoping that PTSD was like multiple personality disorder somehow
but then it wasnt and im a fuckass
can i ask what they did to him to become a ME!

Are you sure he's not you, only the weaker side? Cause if so, make sure he doesn't realize he's the one holding the gun.

Okay, don't make fun of him.

He like was pretty much a sheltered kid and so like when he went of to college he decided to room with his two best friends (who are brothers by the way). He thought that would help out his transition to college life/grow up.

But I guess after living a while together in the apartment they well ganged up on him. Their friendship became like the relationship between a woman and an abusive boyfriend.

They would just criticize everything he did/say/thought and treated him like shit.

They totally emasculated him and that's what brought on his PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder).

Okay, seriously then, a movie will not help/save/change him/you/anyone. That only happens IN movies.

So either be his friend or get him help or leave him to his own devices.

I know it's a fucking shot in the dark but it's as I said earlier my last ditch effort. He is a movie buff so I think it's worth a shot. If not then I'm gonna cut all ties with him and leave him to his own devices.

He's been on pills and been to a psychologist, basically the whole nine yards. And I feel that my friendship with him is actually just beginning to do harm than good. Thus enabling him to be satisfied with being as he is now.

that reminds me where has ntme777 been?

you can get post traumatic stress from bullying? is he on disability now too?

Get him a box of sharp objects and some sorta drug to make it an easy kill.

If you can't make fun of anyone... what's the point?

I watched the movie before I read the book, although I knew the book came first. & In my opinion, the movie was excellent. But shortly after I'd seen the film, I became very curious, and decided to pick up a copy of Fight Club. (the book.) Now after I read it, I was in love with the book. I personally choose the book over the movie.

But how did you kill yourself? That's what this thread is about, right?

I prefer the movie as weird as that is because I didn't like the extended ending in the novel. I couldn't really tell what was going on.

fight club is a really good work, but
seriously,
no book
no movie

just be there, i guess. stop sheltering him and thinking of things to do for him. just get him back the feel of normalcy in things.

I don't really think the movie/book will help anything, save make your friend feel better for a few hours.
But I guess that's kind of the point - definitely movie.

PTSD? Really? Has he actually been diagnosed by a psychiatrist? Not to belittle his plight, but it sounds a lot like depression and poor coping skills. It sucks, but either way, short of getting him a counselor and possibly medication, there's very little you can do.

I am a sufferer of a few clinical grade mental health issues and I can say that PTSD is definitely a viable reason for alarm. I myself cannot be around tall or big men because of the trauma I've been through.

A movie or a book will not change a life. That comes through just being an understanding friend and being there for him regardless of what his state of mind is at the time. If you were a friend of his before this then you should be more tolerant to the idea that people can be very vulnerable during certain points in their life. I'd suggest helping him out by being an open ear and trying to steer him toward the path of getting professional help.

You may have a lot of power over someone in the sense that you can be there for them but please don't heap it on yourself to be responsible for his state of mind and over all well being. It takes time and real psychiatric treatment to get through something truly traumatic.

I hope your friend recovers enough to get on with his life but please remember that miracles don't just happen. It takes serious work on their part to feel better about life.

I myself have to push myself every day to make it all worth living for. It's hard for me to smile, but I do it regardless. Although I will say that without my friend's encouragement I would not be here today.

Don't underestimate yourself but please don't try to take on more than what is healthy for you.

alot of Chuck's messages are along the same lines in all of his books: Create your own destiny, control your reality. Tell your body he has the power to do whatever he wants to do. As for the meaning, i think it is a Satire of the working class of modern america. We are all space monkies slaving over our jobs, wife and child. Introducing something as extreme as a fight club offers salvation to the buttoned down, cubicle dwelling loaves of bread of society. Becoming part of an underground organization determined to undermine authority, cause mayhem and ultimately create a new reality is their desire to change the world around them to not suck so hard.

P.S. just wanted to say if i could fuck any character out of any movie... Marla Singer is on my list... she's just so.. dirty.. and sexy

In the bus where Tyler says that "self-improvement is masturbation now self destruction" he then gets knocked by another guy and he doesnt finish his sentence i personally think that he was about say "self-destruction is sex" you know because when we masturbate we have a an idea that we are improving our self that maybe it will get us better in sex but obviously we are wrong ..........so self improvement of the kind shown in the calvin klein advertisment is fake just like masturbation..and so what really improves us is self destruction as Tyler says "only when we have lost everything is that we are free to do anything" Does anyone wants to have a say in this?

Do people really think that they'll get better at sex if they jack off? I can't see that idea popping into anyone's head before, during or even afterwards.

This.

So what you are the voice of the whole goddamn world now?

I just watched the film the other week for the first time and it did not justify Palahniuk's prose and story line. It was done with cool effect though and I think Edward Norton was perfect for the role however, I still enjoy the novel more.

I can't see that idea popping into anyone's head before, during or even afterwards.

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