Interesting theory about the continuity error.
Hey I just had a thought. Ok, say the consistency error was not an error, and Tyler, being the perfectionist that he is, did, in fact, reconnect the wires. Now we have an active bomb in all of the buildings, but the one Jack and Marla are in has a timer delayed by the amount of time between Tyler and Jack's fight and Tyler's reconnecting of the wires.
Now at the end of the movie, the penis shows up right before the fade to black, indicating that Tyler's mark is still present.
Could this be an indication that Jack and Marla's building did, in fact, blow up after the film reel ends? It makes perfect sense, as the building's final detonation would have be a few minutes after the initial detonation of the first five or six buildings. And now that I think about it, in the CGI sequence at the beginning, the timer in the bullet-pierced van was counting down to zero, was it not?
WHOOOAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Then again, I might be wrong.
i still hold that the zoom showed diff buildings, i really should back this up however....
I just checked the zoom, and it's definately the same building.
Then again, I might be wrong.
plastic, i think that's about the best explanation i've heard. it makes sense, the timer was off for a few seconds, so it could have detonated after the other buildings.
that explanation is probably the most reasonable. the other one i've been considering (i can't remember who said it) is that since jack was telling the story, he may not know what building he's in, since he got the shit beat of him and awoke at the top of the building.
I'm sorry, I still just think that they survived, and that it was a continuity error. Didn't Fincher admit in the director's commentary that it was just an error?
There is hope, but not for us.
Did he? I don't know, I don't even think it matters whether they survived or not. The impression that I get from the final line of the movie is that everything was going to be fine no matter what the hell happened, whether they lived to see the global chaos or not.
Then again, I might be wrong.
maybe by "everything's going to be fine" he meant that he has finally accepted death, and he's ok with it.
eitherway, it definately makes the ending pretty interesting.
hmm...
i could be wrong, but i always thought that tyler had taken himself to another building after being knocked out, simply to watch the chaos unfurl... i could be wrong... probably am... but i could never understand why all those people would be in the building, and be so calm, if they were indeed about to be blown to smithereens. also, why fight about the gun? that wouldn't make any sense if they were all gonna die anyway...
like i said, i'm probably wrong, that's just my impression...
Don't you know there ain't no Devil there's just God when He's drunk.
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It's the same building, watch the first five minutes of the movie and you'll see why.
Then again, I might be wrong.
listen to the fincher/pitt/norton commentary around that time. He mentions something about it im pretty sure, either like jane says he admits it's a mistake or he explains it. I'm too lazy to watch it right now.
I, too, seem to remember Fincher either a) explaining it,
admitting a mistake, or c) laughing off the question (I believe posed by Norton) as to why this particular building didn't blow up. I, too, will need to re-watch to be sure, as it has been a while.
Of course, several of the space monkeys were in the room with him (with beer!) to watch the chaos - which they certainly couldn't do if the building was coming down around them. Well, they'd drop their beers anyway. So, they also knew that this particular building wasn't going to implode - and yet they weren't there for the final Tyler/Narrator fight by the van and the disconnecting of the wires.
Thoughts? Rebuttals?
The thing is...they're space monkeys and it's Tyler Durden. I can't see a motive for wanting to commit suicide, but it wouldn't surprise me either. I mean in the book he was going to kill himself, so it's not too foreign a thought.
Then again, I might be wrong.
Sure, it's not impossible. It just strikes me as very [i]improbable[/i]... But yeah, you could be right. I need to watch again - much more closely.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]This would make the most sense assuming it were true. However, Jack says "Everything is going to be just fine." or something of that extent. WHY DID HE LIE TO US? [/B][/QUOTE]
Throughout the whole movie he was pretty much telling himself everything was going to be 'OK'
We're the culture that cried wolf.
What if the timer counts down even when it's disconnected... it just doesn't set the bomb off.
And then further, what if Jack imagines Tyler reconnecting the wires when really he's lying on the concrete?
It's never too late to stop killing people.
the timer stops when it's disconnected, that is clearly shown in the movie.
maybe he just imagines that it stops :?
It's never too late to stop killing people.
Maybe Uhls just fucked up.
The reality is that they just fucked up. But I think we'd all like to imagine that they didn't and that there's a rational explanation.
A bit like religion really isn't it.
It's never too late to stop killing people.
You're not original.
good
It's never too late to stop killing people.
expanding on texta's theory:
during this whole thing, jack still believed tyler was in control. he believed he was still in the authority position etc. so after he disconnected the wires, his biggest fear was probably that tyler would reconnect them. and since he still believes tyler is in control here, tyler reconnecting the wires while jack is knocked out is totally possible.
you missed the point, we're referring to the camera shot at the beginning conflicting with jim's explanation.
rereading theory i will say. to be fair, it is flawed, but this is all referring to that continuity error, so the fact that uhls said that is the reason plastic's even wondering.
or maybe it's still all a work of fiction, and no one's perfect, so yea, there's bound to be mistakes.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trypdwyre [/i]
[B]or maybe it's still all a work of fiction, and no one's perfect, so yea, there's bound to be mistakes. [/B][/QUOTE]
FICTION?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
when i was thinking about it i remembered when Tyler said "i got us a great place to watch" so i assumed when he knocked Jack out he took him to that building and Fincher just made a mistake showing the bombs in the same building
all we are, is shadows on the wall
[QUOTE=plastic]Tyler, being the perfectionist that he is, did, in fact, reconnect the wires. [/QUOTE] If you mean the bomb that is in the van, then yes, the bomb is ticking. You can clearly see it going from 02:45 to 02:44 in the beginning of the movie.
BUT "Jack" and Marla are not in the same building that the van is! Or any of the other bombs. Tyler, "Jack" and The space monkeys, were in a different building that was not rigged with bombs, for the purpose to watch the buildings fall.
Yes, it does look like the van is straight underneath them. But if you listened to Finchers and Nortons comments, you would understand that the building has a joint parking basement. And the camera isn't dropping straight down. It's roaming around this big area under the buildings and the street. Look at it frame by frame and you'll see many different rooms there and get a better perception about the scale of the place.
Fincher should have kept an better eye on the computereffects department, so that we wouldn't need to go to these lengths to understand that.
[QUOTE=The Adversary]This would make the most sense assuming it were true. However, Jack says "Everything is going to be just fine." or something of that extent. WHY DID HE LIE TO US?[/QUOTE]
why would it be a lie?
i loved fight club and all, just like everybody else, but the movie is a piece of shit compared to the book. the end in the book is way better, in the book you think he dies and goes to heaven. but what could and probably happend is he just fucked himself up and got sent to a mental institution. He says he talk to god across his big long desk with the diplomas on the wall, and people still call him " sir" and say everything is going according to plan. The movie is just eye candy nothing more, i almost wish it was never made.
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[QUOTE=soberstoner]i loved fight club and all, just like everybody else, but the movie is a piece of shit compared to the book. the end in the book is way better, in the book you think he dies and goes to heaven. but what could and probably happend is he just fucked himself up and got sent to a mental institution. He says he talk to god across his big long desk with the diplomas on the wall, and people still call him " sir" and say everything is going according to plan. The movie is just eye candy nothing more, i almost wish it was never made.[/QUOTE]
Hmm... interesting. But not at all related to this thread.
[QUOTE=soberstoner]i loved fight club and all, just like everybody else, but the movie is a piece of shit compared to the book. the end in the book is way better, in the book you think he dies and goes to heaven. but what could and probably happend is he just fucked himself up and got sent to a mental institution. He says he talk to god across his big long desk with the diplomas on the wall, and people still call him " sir" and say everything is going according to plan. The movie is just eye candy nothing more, i almost wish it was never made.[/QUOTE]
No.
You fail.
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"... got this store bought way of saying I'm ok..."
re read the last chapter, keep in mind the possibility he's not dead. listen to chucks descreption of heaven and tell me it doesn't reseamble a looney bin. listen carefully to his description of god and tell me it doesn't sound like a doctor. I think it's more then possible, i think most if not all of chucks endings are not what they seem. the movie was good but there's nothing about the movie that is better then the book, especially the charecters, especially Marla. i think the movie is really soft, the reason i wish thge movie wasn't made is because it totally ruined the books shock value.
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it's obviously the same van from the same building because of the bullet hole in the window of the van the first scene, and in the last scene, ed norton shoots a bullet hole through the window of the van. this is pretty irrefutable I'd say, unless I'm imagining this all.
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[QUOTE=soberstoner]re read the last chapter, keep in mind the possibility he's not dead. listen to chucks descreption of heaven and tell me it doesn't reseamble a looney bin. listen carefully to his description of god and tell me it doesn't sound like a doctor. I think it's more then possible, i think most if not all of chucks endings are not what they seem. the movie was good but there's nothing about the movie that is better then the book, especially the charecters, especially Marla. i think the movie is really soft, the reason i wish thge movie wasn't made is because it totally ruined the books shock value.[/QUOTE]
Its not a possibility hes not dead, itsa the truth.
anybody who didnt realize he wasnt dead is an imbecile. it blatantly state s that he used paraffin which never works for jack, and he is just playing along that a mental hospital is heaven... and that the doctor is god
NO SHIT
The movie still does have shock value. Can people truly say they werent shocked when ed shot himself int he mouth?
And the characters wrere well played. Marla was insane as many imagiend her, EPSECIALLY hmmm... i dunno... THE AUTHOR HIMSELF. The movie isnt soft. its just liek an alternate ending. I judeg them the same. Stop beign on\e of those whiny fanboys, the ones you see standing outside LOTR theatre showings with signs saying "IT DOESNT FOLLOW THE BOOK". Its an adaptition to the screen, things get altered. The atmosphere, the messages, the words of figth club were still there, the framework for figth club was still there. It was still "Fight Club", and Brad Pitt, Helena Bonhma Carter and Ed Norton all embodied those cahacrters perfectly in my mind. They were their charcters incarnate. Lets see you do better, or anyone else for that matter.
Look.
You can bitch. You can whine. You can complain. But cant you admit this movie kicks the ass out of most movies around?
Stop being a pessimist.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by plastic [/i]
[B]Hey I just had a thought. Ok, say the consistency error was not an error, and Tyler, being the perfectionist that he is, did, in fact, reconnect the wires. Now we have an active bomb in all of the buildings, but the one Jack and Marla are in has a timer delayed by the amount of time between Tyler and Jack's fight and Tyler's reconnecting of the wires.
Now at the end of the movie, the penis shows up right before the fade to black, indicating that Tyler's mark is still present.
Could this be an indication that Jack and Marla's building did, in fact, blow up after the film reel ends? It makes perfect sense, as the building's final detonation would have be a few minutes after the initial detonation of the first five or six buildings. And now that I think about it, in the CGI sequence at the beginning, the timer in the bullet-pierced van was counting down to zero, was it not?
WHOOOAAAAAAA!!!!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
This would make the most sense assuming it were true. However, Jack says "Everything is going to be just fine." or something of that extent. WHY DID HE LIE TO US?
YOU FUCKED THE WORST, NOW FIGHT THE BEST!
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