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There are at least 15 frames in the movie, where suddely something strange appears on the screen. You don't notice it, because it's only for one frame. Kinda like the cocks Tyler inserted into children's movies.

I've already collected three shots like this. Two with Tyler appearing on the screen, long before he was even introduced, and one with this ugly cock at the end. But I know there a lot more of these.

So before I go on hunting those frames, I wonder if anyone already has a complete collection of them. If not... expect one from me soon. I'll post 'em in this thread.

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Fifteen? That's a lot...

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Yeah, here are three I managed to collect. Expect more soon.

They're hard to spot, so I'm sure I missed a few already, and I've only gone through 15 minutes. If anyone has free time to watch the movie closely, help me spot them so I can add all of them to the collection.

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Second one...

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Third.

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Hey wait, hold on,

Aren't these already [URL=http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/fan/thecult/fun/subliminal.htm]here[/URL].

Do you have some that aren't already there, [b][i]penguin[/i][/b]?

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That's great. Thanks. That's why I asked the question first in this thread... but no one answered, so I assumed a collection like this doesn't exist.

Thanks again for saving me a lot of time....

By the way, do you know if that collection is complete?

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I don't think it's complete.

There is another one where "Jack" is in his hotel room, and then the camera goes to the T.V. The waiters shout "Welcome!," and on the very right of the screen, Tyler is one of the waiters saying "Welcome!"

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Theres one where Jacks doctor is about to turn away, tyler appears with his arm around him.

While these have been grabbed before, these are some of the best I've seen yet. Congrats. And I'm not sure I've ever seen the Marla walking away one grabbed before. I've noticed it, just not seen it on the net.

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hes wearing the same thing in all of the freeze frames but they are on separate days...

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what i've heard about those is that tyler makes several appearances in "flashes" like that before his first big appearance. it happens most noticeably in the scene where jack is asking the doctor for meds for his insomnia. all of them are quick shots of brad pitt as tyler.

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there is also an appearance on the moving sidewalks in an airport that is technically one because he hasn't met him yet.

simiarly the car stealing scene after the "dildo-throwers" scene in the airport with the security guy on the phone. "but I don't OWN..." Heh heh.

I need to watch that again. Maybe tonite....

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yeah. me too.

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am i the only one who was able to pick put all the "flash" images easily? maybe i was too focused and drawn in to the film

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You see something blink, but you ignore it. That's the whole point.
"Nobody knows that they saw it, but they did."

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Tyler makes eight subliminal appearances before he is introduced - this does not count the moving sidewalk or the auto theft. He also appears in the "Welcome" video that 'Jack' watches in his hotel room (after _so_ cooly catching the single-serving pillow mint in his mouth - wonder how many takes _that_ took...)

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[QUOTE]am i the only one who was able to pick put all the "flash" images easily? maybe i was too focused and drawn in to the film
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i figured out what they were pretty quickly...but maybe that's b/c i read the book right before i watched the movie.

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I found that the subliminal images were much easier to see on the DVD/vhs version of the mvoie. In the theatre I only caught 1 or 2 of them.

And I think that the enture wait staff in the commercial on the hotel TV is made up of space monkeys. At least that's what I always assumed because they're all dressed the way the monkeys were when they threatened the police commisioner.

I always thought Tyler's real first appearance (on the moving sidewalk in the airport) was kind of odd. They showed Tyler right as the narrator says "If you wake up in a different city at a differnet time, could you wake up as someone else?"

When I saw Fight Club at hte Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin, they spliced in their own subliminal mssages. Random frames that said things like "Beer Good" and "Pizza Yum." It was great!

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BitOfAFinger [/i]
[B]And I think that the enture wait staff in the commercial on the hotel TV is made up of space monkeys. At least that's what I always assumed because they're all dressed the way the monkeys were when they threatened the police commisioner. [/B][/QUOTE]
May be... I'd have to look closer. It would be amazing if no one had caught that yet, but the hotel staff are all dressed that way because that's how hotel staff dress - the reason the space monkeys did is because they were were you know, supposed to look like they work there (or Tyler had gotten them all jobs there.) I know, different hotel or whatever, but hell, you fall asleep at SeaTac, wake up at Dulles, it all looks the same becomes a blur...

[B][QUOTE] I always thought Tyler's real first appearance (on the moving sidewalk in the airport) was kind of odd. They showed Tyler right as the narrator says "If you wake up in a different city at a differnet time, could you wake up as someone else?" [/B][/QUOTE]

Nice bit of story-boarding, yes?

[B][QUOTE] When I saw Fight Club at the Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin, they spliced in their own subliminal mssages. Random frames that said things like "Beer Good" and "Pizza Yum." It was great! [/B][/QUOTE]

Brilliant.

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maybe eventually we'll get a movie where at least half of it is subliminal messages. the surface movie will make no sense. but underneath it there'll be images that tell you what's going on.

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I think the type of film you're referring to is called "A David Lynch Film"

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BitOfAFinger [/i]
[B]I think the type of film you're referring to is called "A David Lynch Film" [/B][/QUOTE]

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good point.

so anyway...*whistles*

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BitOfAFinger [/i]
[B]I found that the subliminal images were much easier to see on the DVD/vhs version of the mvoie. In the theatre I only caught 1 or 2 of them. [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, that's because in the theatre there are 60 frames a second, while on DVD there are only 31. So on the DVD every subliminal image appears for twice as long as it appears in the theatre.

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penguin, how did you come by this frames-per-second rate?

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most of my friends know im a huuuuuge Chuck fan and an even bigger Fight Club fan, but it still surprises me when people ask "did you see the subliminal frame at the end of the movie of the big cock?" i thought that fram was pointed out longer than usual so everyone would see it and get a chuckle (ha chuckle>chuck> HA, sorry A.D.D.) but i guess i was too focussed on the movie

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Yeah, the HUGE GAY COCK wasn't meant to be subliminal - It wasn't a single frame, actually like 6 frames (1/4 second.)

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weird how every one thinks it was subliminal image

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well, it [b]was[/b] meant to be a "oh, this is/was a film where Tyler slipped in a single frame of porn" thing, you know, "haw haw (nudge nudge) geddit?!?!?" A joke.

A subliminal, by definition, you don't actually notice - or at least don't catch. The "Hidden Tylers" at the beginning of the film I would guess weren't even single frames in the theatres - probably two or three, because you are _supposed_ to notice them, but not really tell what they are. I could be wrong about the number of frames for the Tylers, though.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by decalogue [/i]
[B]penguin, how did you come by this frames-per-second rate? [/B][/QUOTE]

I do some hobby editting jobs, so I know this stuff.

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Oh. 'Cuz I was always under the impression that film through a projector is 24 frames/second.

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Well, it seems that you are right:
[url]http://www.magic-marmot.com/html/psm_glos.htm[/url]
See 'Pullup/Pulldown' section.

It's strange because After Effects (the program I use for video manipulation) has many output formats with 60fps.

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Is there a scene where tyler isnt wearing is sun glasses?

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Your first paragraph, everyone knows. It's in the commentary and it's been posted here I think already.

And I didn't really notice the second thing you said. That is pretty weird, but they are the same person.

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then, of course, there was this one...

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Bronkie, you're killing me!

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yeah. That was hilarious.

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