Fight Club The 4th Greatest Movie Of All-Time???

Total Film is a crappy British film mag.

But I'm still quite surprised to see it so high up.

anyone else remember when they used to wait till the week after christmas an before new years to release all the best/greatest lists ?

I don't even know if I'd rate 'Fight Club' as the fourth best movie on my DVD shelf, and I only own half a dozen DVDs. It's good, the reason I own so few DVDs is in part because they have to be good before I'm interested in owning them.

It's on a par with 'Being John Malkovich,' I'd give it that. But any ranking of 'all time' is bound to be flawed. Where's 'Wizard of Oz' on that list? 'Elephant Man?' 'Freaks?'

And 'Jaws,' really, I tried to re-watch it recently and it's not that great. It was great for 1975, but it doesn't have the staying power of, say, 'Miracle on 34th Street' or 'It's a Wonderful Life.'

Or what about 'Sixteen Candles?' 'The Deer Hunter,' 'Bladerunner,' 'Rocky Horror Picture Show,' or either the old or new 'Of Mice and Men?' Mel Gibson's 'Hamlet.' Am I all over the map? Sure, but any honest list is going to be. 'Rocky Horror' is only great if you see it in a theater at midnight on Friday with props and a good audience that knows their lines. More a cultural phenomenon than a movie, really.

[QUOTE=Chixulub]I don't even know if I'd rate 'Fight Club' as the fourth best movie on my DVD shelf, and I only own half a dozen DVDs. It's good, the reason I own so few DVDs is in part because they have to be good before I'm interested in owning them.

It's on a par with 'Being John Malkovich,' I'd give it that. But any ranking of 'all time' is bound to be flawed. Where's 'Wizard of Oz' on that list? 'Elephant Man?' 'Freaks?'

And[B] 'Jaws,' really, I tried to re-watch it recently and it's not that great. [/B] It was great for 1975, but it doesn't have the staying power of, say, 'Miracle on 34th Street' or 'It's a Wonderful Life.'

Or what about 'Sixteen Candles?' 'The Deer Hunter,' 'Bladerunner,' 'Rocky Horror Picture Show,' or either the old or new 'Of Mice and Men?' Mel Gibson's 'Hamlet.' Am I all over the map? Sure, but any honest list is going to be. 'Rocky Horror' is only great if you see it in a theater at midnight on Friday with props and a good audience that knows their lines. More a cultural phenomenon than a movie, really.[/QUOTE]

I agree with pretty much all of that.

But the text in bold? - Blasphemy.

I disagree with that list too. Fight Club is good but definately not 4th of ALL time.

Did a bunch of 15yr old kids put that list together? Geez.

[QUOTE=Smartazboy]Did a bunch of 15yr old kids put that list together? Geez.[/QUOTE]

Basically, yes.

And snot-sleeved fanboys who still have tattered cardboard cutouts of Tyler, and Darth Vader-shape phones.*

It really is a crappy mag.

[SIZE=1]*(Disclaimer. I have never owned a VaderPhone. Nope, no way. Not ever.)[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=1]*(Disclaimer. I have never owned a VaderPhone. Nope, no way. Not ever.)[/SIZE][/QUOTE]HA!

[QUOTE=JustinHolt]According to [URL=http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20051024/113017896000.html]this list[/URL] it is...[/QUOTE]
whoa welcome back justin.

4th...Naw naw that magazine is bullshit! #1 movie of all time FIGHT CLUB. If only palahniuk made a small guest appearance in the film I would have creamed my pants thrice!

i love fight club the movie. thats why im so excited its going to be playing as a midnight movie in a couple weeks where i live. bet you all are jealous.

[QUOTE=7even]Now, let's cut all these old-ass movies out. They made a big impact decades ago. It was easier to be original back then. Imagine Casablanca hitting the movies this year for the first time. Would it be considered one of the best movies ever? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]

That's the unfair advantage of old timey movies, they're on these lists only because they're old and they're on everyone else's list.

I'd be willing to bet that whoever put those pictures on the list haven't even SEEN them. The Cary Grant comedy "His Girl Friday" was tenth? Where would I even find that movie in this day and age?

It's always tempting to compare movies across time, but it's also ridiculous. A film isn't released into a vacuum. [I]Casablanca[/I], [I]Star Wars,[/I] [I]Fight Club,[/I] etc., all have their niche because of when they were released. There's a set up and a punch line.
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Fight Club[/I] seems a special case in some ways, because I feel like the movie was made just in time. Any earlier and there wouldn't have been enough millenial angst to feed it properly, and even with the cast it might have gotten overlooked in large part. Any later and Fox would have chickened out, because you can't make a movie with sympathetic terrorist cells and skyline changing demolitions. You especially can't blow up skyscrapers and make a sex joke in the process.

As far as the advantage old time movies have, I think it's just as wrong to judge a film, even one like [I]Fight Club [/I]that's only a few years old, by comparing it to the 'now showing' lists. There's maybe three or four films a year that would make anyone's list. The ones that make everyone's list are the ones that come along every few years, that make a lot of people's list.

I think the percentage of garbage stays pretty constant, or maybe garbage has become even more prevalent with the decentralization of production capabilities. Just like desktop publishing making every Joe the editor of his 'family newsletter,' as it becomes easier for Joe to work up his own 'reels,' I'd aver that the quality of most reels tends to degrade. Still, the right idea at the right time can turn the trick. Anyone with a word processor or even a typewriter could have done what J.K. Rowling has if they'd had the idea and timing right.

[QUOTE=I_Keep_A_Coma_Diary]But Fight Club is, and will always be a magnificent film, I think it's much better than overrated average stuff like The Godfather. It deserves to be so high on the greatest movie lists.[/QUOTE]
Fight Club doesn't even compare with The Godfather. The two times I've watched The Godfather I've been utterly engrossed in it and this rarely happens with films.
Fight Club's okay.

Im my private ranking fight club is higher than Godfather but Pi, Jin-ro , and Blade Runner are higher than fight club. but I don't think that Fight club is the best. And on IMDB.com Godfather is on first place and fight club is somewere on 85 position. :eek:

[QUOTE=7even]Which movie is better, and why?
Now, let's cut all these old-ass movies out. They made a big impact decades ago. It was easier to be original back then. Imagine Casablanca hitting the movies this year for the first time. Would it be considered one of the best movies ever? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]

Splutter...cough...gag....gasp...belch...gnrrggrrr!!!

Where to begin.

The future is doomed.

[QUOTE=Riddlegimp]Splutter...cough...gag....gasp...belch...gnrrggrrr!!![/QUOTE]
i can´t help but second that.

especially the gnrrggrrrr!

I felt it had a certain poetry.

yay, it had a certain sort of [I]verve[/I]!

i cant believe these movie lists keep neglecting ........

"clifford"

The 1994 classic featuring martin short playing a 10 year old kid.
Also featuring charles grodin and mary steenburgen.(now your convinced its worthy)

why is there no love for this movie?

as for fight club it seems too slick and compressed with too many distractions to consistently reinforce the intended theme. this resulted in keeping me unfocused on the intended theme. it was fantastic viewing, but i think it lacked a few pauses in the mix. i usually associate sucessful theme representations in slower paced movies with less information thrown onto the screen so as to avoid plaguing the viewers mind with ambiguity.

it possibly had too much information firing off throughout the movie, that diluted the intended theme/moral.

a few more pauses in the movie would of helped to break things up instead of what seemed like one continuous blur.

im also not a fan of using a narrator in movies (ed norton). its just seems lazy, when instead you could use the medium of visual description.

it certainly doesnt deserve a no 4 rating in all time greatest films, but there are a lot worse out there.

no "metropolis", no "requiem for a dream" and "clifford" was omitted

the list is not to be trusted

[QUOTE=Mr.Shadov]Im my private ranking fight club is higher than Godfather but Pi, Jin-ro , and Blade Runner are higher than fight club. but I don't think that Fight club is the best. And on IMDB.com Godfather is on first place and fight club is somewere on 85 position. :eek:[/QUOTE]

But how would you rate Puzo's novel, Palahniuk's, and PKD's 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' Which was the most faithful adaptation? One of the things I like about the 'Fight Club' movie, and I'm not sure where I'd rank it in all-time movies (it's one of seven or eight DVDs I own, so I guess that means I rate it pretty high), and I love the novel but the movie was better. There were several logical problems in the book (the collagen trust comes to mind) that were ironed out in the screenplay, pace issues (having Tyler and Jack pick seperate fights with their bosses in the book), etc., and Jim Uhls managed to keep the best of the book and ditch its worst defects.

There may be other novel adaptations that only change the story in ways that improve it, but I can't think of one.

[QUOTE=Chixulub]But how would you rate Puzo's novel, Palahniuk's, and PKD's 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' Which was the most faithful adaptation? One of the things I like about the 'Fight Club' movie, and I'm not sure where I'd rank it in all-time movies (it's one of seven or eight DVDs I own, so I guess that means I rate it pretty high), and I love the novel but the movie was better. There were several logical problems in the book (the collagen trust comes to mind) that were ironed out in the screenplay, pace issues (having Tyler and Jack pick seperate fights with their bosses in the book), etc., and Jim Uhls managed to keep the best of the book and ditch its worst defects.

There may be other novel adaptations that only change the story in ways that improve it, but I can't think of one.[/QUOTE]

I don't like watch the movie that is completly the same as the book. But I have a propostion of movie that improve comic. it was Ghost in the shell.

I think Goodfellas is a pretty badass film, but the greatest film of all time? Not by a longshot. The film is great the first time you watch it, and it still holds its charm every other time you watch it, but come on...who does not find themselves hitting fast forward on the DVD player every so often during the movie's three hours?

As for Fight Club, I actually think it deserves fourth place.

:You_Rock_ Those authors really rock - 4th movie, whats next& Best movie of the century - just firget it. Look, I really loved book and movie (which could be MUCH better). That magasine really piece of crap - lets rate FC as a fairy good movie:cool: