Password

Dude, for real.

If you have to ask... you'll never know.

It's the same reason pretty much all the regulars here know that my password is NYQUIL.

Sometimes the shit's just super obvious.

To my memory it is bc all the people dont want to forget their password so they think they are clever so they use the word PASSWORD as it. I'm 99% sure that is why, but if im wrong i wouldnt be surprised.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by willtupper [/i]
[B]Sometimes the shit's just super obvious. [/B][/QUOTE]

and that is why i use words like "diptheria"

i figure if someone can figure 8that* out, they deserve something for their work.

(of course, i've not used that one for over two years so i'm not giving anything away. )

Do you know the significance of why Carl would even care about computer passwords? And no, it's not to show that people aren't as clever as they think they are.

Maybe that they're all interchangable? That you can kill one, kill two, kill three or more and it just doesn't matter?

More likely, though: it's a transition device. Something to return to over and over throughout the entire book.

I think probably it would just be because of his extreme attention to detail

when you recieve a new account through a business, bank or whatever requires you a password, your starting password is something stupid like "password". so to me it seems that's just carl's way of showing disgust with the laziness and stupidity that is rampant in the world.

What I think:

People don't just know eachother's passwords and pin numbers, and Chuck doesn't include stuff like that for just the straight-forward meaning. I think it's a hint at something bigger...

Interesting aside: The most common PIN is 1 2 3 4.

For serious.

dang, i should change my pin # then, heh, just kiddin'.
thanks for backin' me up pbohn.

(this is a message to well) Why the fuck do you care? And why are you so stubborn and close-minded? On this forum we are open to other people's ideas. And we don't ask stupid questions.

What, I propose something that is different from the opinion of the majority, you cuss me out, and [B]I'M[/B] the one being narrow-minded? I thought you said you were open to other people's ideas?

[QUOTE]Why the fuck do you care? And why are you so stubborn and close-minded?[/QUOTE]

I thought you said you didn't ask stupid questions.

Chapter 25 page 150:

[i]Reading the monitor, Helen says, "He changed the screen. I need to know his password."

No problem. Big Brother fills us all with the same crap. [b]My guess is he was clever the same way everbody thinks they're clever. I tell her to type in "password."[/b][/i]

*shrug*

seems pretty clear to me...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Odd-Reigh [/i]
[B]Chapter 25 page 150:

[i]Reading the monitor, Helen says, "He changed the screen. I need to know his password."

No problem. Big Brother fills us all with the same crap. [b]My guess is he was clever the same way everbody thinks they're clever. I tell her to type in "password."[/b][/i][/B][/QUOTE]

Ack. I've been trying to find that forever to post it on here. I knew he said why he knew their passwords somewhere in that book.

Oh well

Yea, I wasn't at that point of the book yet when i posted.

I just finished it today, god damn what a great way to hold me to the book. I only got 3 hours of sleep last night because of this book

[B]he said it more than once, i think[/B]

or maybe just that one time,im not sure

so to get away from the flaming for a bit...it's because these people think they're clever, like ppl who have keys under fake rocks. maybe it was clever the first time somebody did it, but once everyone catches on to the idea, it's just stupid.

sort of fitting in with the whole point of the book--when ideas spread like contagion, they can be dangerous.

When I registered for a hotmail account a billion years ago, they said my password had to be eight letters.

So I made my password "eightletters."

And that's pretty clever, if I do say so myself.

um...i don't really know what to say to that.

that's still only as clever as making your password "password", which this whole thread has said isn't clever.

maybe its just me, but this kind of reminds me of when the narrator in fight club says that before he met tyler, he was going to get a dog, and name it "entourage".
all those little things that people think are so clever....
"how's that workin out for you?"
"what?"
"being clever"
"great"
"keep it up then"

Hey. I was 10 at the time! Cut me some slack.

I AM open to other people's opinions, your not letting people express themselves.

What?????

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by XChuck [/i]
[B]I AM open to other people's opinions, your not letting people express themselves. [/B][/QUOTE]

Clearly you aren't. By calling the original question "stupid," you aren't opening up to it at all. By cussing me out like you did, you're the one being an asshole. I am the one here who has an opinion that varies from the majority, and you are the one who is showing intolerance toward it. I don't know what you're even trying to say--how could I possibly be keeping people from expressing themselves?

*sigh* both of y'all cut it out.

Wait... so what the fuck is well's opinion? That it hints at something bigger? ....what? Seriously i wanna know your idea..

BTW my stupid little story to this theme is for fantasy football it said our team names could not be obscene, so i named mine "Obscene" Ah sweet rebellion..

Yes, I'm saying that I think it is just a hint at something else, something bigger that goes on behind the scenes, if you will. I realize that on one level it is just a creative view on the way everyone thinks they are clever, but I think that the narrator of this story knows a lot of things in this novel for a different reason than just to "point things out." Of course I could be wrong, but it's my opinion that Lullaby (like Survivor and Choke) is much more of a subtle conspiracy novel than most people think.

conspiracy novel? how so?

....so your theory that's beyond popular belief on what the significance of "password" is, is that there is a significance to "password" beyond the popular belief?

I think you need a little more substance there before it's actually a theory...

Well obviously there's more to it, but I haven't figured everything out yet. For one thing, I haven't read the book in a long time, and I haven't really thought about it much since then anyway. There might have been a better thread about it on the old message boards. Still, even that didn't come to any solid conclusions. There were just some things that stuck out at me as I read the book that kept me suspicious that there was more to the story than at face value (a lot was about Nash actually). There was a lot more, but I don't even remember most of it. And if I did, I wouldn't say it all now, because for every one person that says, "interesting idea," there are ten people who say "Quit being an idiot. Not all of CP's books are the same thing. They don't all have a twist ending. This is a stupid idea. Quit being narrow-minded. Asshole." I don't feel like taking the time to read it all again just to be criticized when I ask if anyone else has an idea. So to sum up: 1) If you care, check the older message board in case I wrote anything there 2) I don't remember much anyway 3) I don't feel like taking the time to re-figure it out and 4) I didn't have the twist completely figured out, but I felt it was on the right track.

edit: After reading that, it didn't make much sense. The basic premise of the theory was that the book, like Survivor, was more of an excuse, an alibi, than anything else... like really, there was no lullaby, just a murderer. But like I said, I don't have it all worked out, and there are still holes in the idea. But I guess there were enough little things throughout the book that made me think something wasn't right.

it's too bad that the flaming on this board has gotten to the point where you won't even explain your idea. if you feel like talking about it at all, PM me, because i'm really interested to hear more about it.

There had to be a lullaby. He kills people by simply looking at them (think of that amazing scene where he's walking down the street and people are just dropping like flies as he turns to look at them)

I don't think there was a lullaby at all. I think God is angry at all people who think they're so very clever and so he kills all those peo

Is Carl god?

I can't respond. I'm dead. Get it?

Funny monkey! Funky Monkey!

Love honey!

I'm losing it. But I still love everyone. !

What? That was weird. Haha, you almost sounded like kl0pper!

LOL. That's awesome. Typing tourette's is the way of the future!

Woo skiddlie bee bop!

Of course, if it was Kl0pperese, I would have said WhAT YOUUU MEANNE MAN?!?!?~???>??111 IM BVOMB DUG DIGGITYY FORR YOU!

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I think Kl0pper is rewrting our language. He is the way of the future!

I thought Ebonics was our new language. Ever notice how new languages start with e? English, Esperanto, Ebonics.... ok, so English isn't knew, but it helped me show my point.

What about Latin?

It all comes from Latin!

But Latin doesn't start with an E. And my brother speaks Latin, the weirdo that he is. Not because he speaks Latin, but he's related to me, so he has to be weird.

Goes to show how much you know, youngster!

I was talking about next-generation Latin, which is only spoken over the internet.

"E-Latin" starts with an E!

Ex deus Machina! Sig Transit Gloria! E Pluribus Unim!

KLPOOEPR FORR PREZAZ!

Well, I just saw this and thought I'd post it for the hell of it. I know people are going to say "What the hell does that matter?" but I just thought it was interesting.

"The art of the steal" by Frank W. Abagnale, Page 166, Line 19, to quote.

"You wouldn't believe how many people, for simplicity's sake, use 'Password' as their password. Many others unimaginatively use their first name, or actually use none at all but have the 'enter' key be their password."

Man, I read too much.

I've been meaning to read that book. Is it any good?

Just for the hell of it, my mom uses "password" and thinks its really clever....ah mom

I also had a boss that used "password" as their password...

It's interesting as all get out. He goes quite in depth in detailing various cons, in all walks of life, from ATM's, to embezzlement and whatnot. And by detailed, I mean, if you wanted to, you could pull it off with this as an instruction manual.

Only maybe 8% of the stuff, I already know. And it's a pretty easy read, I've been reading for two days and I'm on page 187.

Cool, thanks I'll pick it up this weekend.

How about Mitnick's "Art Of Deception" have you read that by any chance. I have it in the "in" pile but haven't started it....

I think I have that in my "To read" list too... so I couldn't be of any help... yet.

Lets suggest it for book club!

I'll start it this weekend, looks like rain all weekend in these parts so I'll hit the stack. It looks really interesting.

Mitnick's book "Art of Deception" was great. mirkah, did you watch the screen savers when mitnick's parole was up? dude looked rusty, and i swear i heard his say a few "choice" words about pop-up ads. from what i hear he's selling his security services to companies now.