Shane is a homo???

He was gay. That's why he got a sex change. I don't think I'd get a sex change just to freak people out.

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Grade 5 Dropout, I respect your opinion, but I don't think Shane got the sex change because he was gay. That's a horrible misconception about the gay community (all gay men wanna be women, all lesbians wanna be men).

If I'm not mistaken - isn't there a big speech towards the end about how he got a sex change because it was the ONE THING that he wanted the LEAST?

I think he did it to understand himself more. It was the biggest mistake he could make.

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Ohhhh Will, you're right. I remember that speech now.

And about what I said about him getting the change because he was gay - I didn't mean to say ALL gay men want to be women, but it happens.

I believe the whole thing about Shane becoming a woman was that he thought it was the "worst self mutilation" he can think of.

just fyi, if someone actually has Gender identity disorder, which most people who get sex changes have, they don't consider themselves gay. instead they are disgusted with the sex organs they were born with and feel that some horrible mistake was made. so a man with GID considers "himself" a heterosexual woman. it's confusing, don't think about it too much. Shane, was confused about his sexuality as many people with GID would be. however, since he said it was the biggest mistake he could have made, it seems unlikely he actually had this disorder.

That's totally right on. Someone with GID probably wouldn't view gender transition as "the biggest mistake," but instead see it as the complete opposite, I know I did(yes, I know GID first hand). Also, the whole idea of whether or not someone who changes gender is in fact gay, depends largely on who they dig and what gender they see themselves, if they see themselves as any gender at all. Just don't make the assumption that all transsexuals are gay. As far as whether or not Shane is gay, I can't really find any real hard fact to prove one or the other. Just because a guy sucks a couple dicks and becomes a women, doesn't make him gay. If he did indeed dig guys, then he would be gay. That is until he transitioned and became a she, at which point she would be straight. If she likes women, she's in fact a lesbian. Confused? Good.

Oh,don't worry,I won't.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Chester383 [/i]
[B] ...what was his reason for changing himself??
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cos its the thing he/she least wanted to do.

Don't be so suburban!

Sorry, i dont have anything to add to this disscussion. I just have 1 question:

grade 5 dropout
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Is your avatar form Boondock Saints? I could swear it is. I havent seen the movie in more than a year, but I'm pretty certain it is the origin

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Quote Shane:

"I'm not straight, and I'm not gay. I'm not bisexual. I want out of the labels. I don't want my whole life crammed into a single word."

You said it all, Solle.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by syndroid [/i]
[B] I don't think hetero sexual women are disgusted with male organs [/B][/QUOTE] If you were born with an extra ear growing out of your forehead, what are the odds that you would grow-up thinking "Oh, how cool!"? I'm guessing you'd get that removed at your first opportunity. I've done a lot of research about GID, since it's such a big part of my screenplay (now out of option, goddman it) along with apotemnophilia and other body dysmorphia. In spite of all that, I'd still defer to S. Moon on the subject.

 I thought he was gay and got the sex change not because he was gay, but because he wanted self-mutilation. I think his sex change is completely unrelated to his sexual orientation in the novel.

Brandy says, “Don’t you see? Because we’re trained to do life the right way. To not make mistakes.” Brandy says, “I figure, the bigger the mistake looks, the better chance I’ll have to break out and live real life.”

it was the biggest mistake he could think of. aside from losing an arm and a leg

it was never confirmed that he was gay. manus took advantage of him so he could save his parents from the abuse charges, then, ironically they threw him out when they accused him of being gay.

i'm pretty sure he got gonorrhea..?

He did get Gonorrhea.

And he wasn't gay. He said he wasn't gay. He said he didn't want to identify with anything because everybody wants you to identify with something. He was sexually assaulted by Manus, he didn't enjoy it.

He could've been any sexuality really, even bi, but he said he didn't want to identify with anything

Goodness Gracious. Yes, shane was really gay. And he started becoming a woman because he was bored, and he wanted to do what he wanted the least.

You just replied to a nine year old thread. These people are gone. Let it die.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND TUFFY! These things are important! *sob*

Chuck is gay?

I've never seen these pics before. I wasn't even asked to "choose wisely" when I joined

Thanks, Steve!