IM- How Fagotty is my favorite book?
seriously tho. i've looked and can't seem to find anything on this forum yet just pointing out the political and social commentary on homosexuality/transgenderism/bisexuality that is one of the major themes in IM. (besides good-ole Suzee's [url]http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?s=&postid=16319#post16319[/url])
after FC, i couldn't believe it was the same author.
(i felt like i was reading Margaret Cho on acid and/or tussin.)
the only other major political/social theme explored in the book has to do with conventional beauty, which is relational to the above themes.
i'm gonna get hell for saying this, but chuck is expressing in a very direct way (for a fiction writer) his fagotty-campy side here. and probably having a great time writing it (it was a hilarious book). another thing- it's was his first novel. then he went 180 and pulled Fight Club out of his brain. I think this was great catharsis for him and I'm glad I came along for the ride.
men don't talk about gender-role issues. women do. chuck is the first male author i've read that has really explored this intelligently in fiction. now that's an honest writer. that takes balls.
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Actually, Bret Easton Ellis is straight, and if you've read any of his books (especially Glamorama), you'll realize that he is very open-minded.
i'm generally not in favor of classifying things as "faggoty."
that's gay.
LOL.
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Hey leonardshelby, what's your source for Ellis's alledged heterosexualness? I've met the man (cold, cold hands!), and I've also heard an entirely different (and I believe, reliable) version of his orientation. His marriage ended up in a bitter, biter divorce again why?
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
If you know what I mean. 
And Kitty, that was freakin awesome.
thanks!!
if i was married to a guy, and one day he wrote "american psycho," i'd have some freakin questions, that's for shit sure.
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Yeah. I think you could say the same thing for a lot of the authors people like around here. 
nah, i think chuck's prob. pretty tame at home.
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This post has no point. I just wanted the gay thread to be back on top. 
Again, put the homosexualness on top!
And Kitty, I respect what you think.
This post, like Will's two posts...is just to keep the "gay thread" on top...but I was sick of seeing Will's name on top (no offense Will) so here's a change of pace.
Side note...I've still not managed to get a copy of Invisible Monsters. I'm too poor to pay $15 for my own copy (a pretty large sum for a paperback) and my local library has between two and zero copies.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by insomnomaniac [/i]
[B]nah, i think chuck's prob. pretty tame at home. [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, he [i]is[/i] damn good in bed...
...er, from what I hear, I mean, uh... anyway...
Gay thread back at the top.
LOL nice.
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I think its funny how its been so long since anyone has posted here for a reason other than to
KEEP THE GAY THREAD ON TOP!
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"I was almost Six On Tha Dot. What a mistake that would have been." -- Six On The Dot
yep. gay is the way.
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Dude. I've totally been reading this as - Kitty:"There should be treatment, but cannibalism is wrong."
I'm just [i]so[/i] damaged.
yeah pretty much. gotta cut back on the hard drugs mang.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by insomnomaniac [/i]
[B]yep. gay is the way. [/B][/QUOTE]
then check out the hoomocrush page.
faggoty isn't the right word but it's the first that comes to mind.
strapped down and made to see
That's true, pan! And I'm just replying to your reply in order to do what we all know and love... keep that gay thread right at the top!
Where is the gay?
The gay is here in this thread!
I think this is the funniest gay thread I've ever read.
I'm doing my part to put the gay back on top.
There is hope, but not for us.
Yeay! We salute you Jane, great Goddess of haiku!
We salute you in the ways of gay!
Salute!
Gay! 
lol
Willtupper, I think I am secretly falling in love with you. But it has to be a secret cause this is a gay thread, yo.
There is hope, but not for us.
Jane S.! You make my heart go boom da boom boom boom!
Then my head remixes that sentiment. And it comes out like this:
boom da boom boom boom ba ba wakka
If only I lived in Nebraska! We could listen to "Nebraska," the popular album by popular singer Bruce Springsteen, just MARVEL at the IRONY of it all, and write haiku together while watching the setting sun fall behind the wheat fields of grain.
Wheat fields of grain, jane s.! Wheat fields of grain!
If only I wasn't:
1. In Michigan.
2. In a gay thread.
3. In Michigan in a gay thread!
Our love would be stronger than all others!
Oh well... THIS is one of the struggles of being part of the most oppressed of peoples in America: those who post in gay threads while they're in Michigan.
Fucking Republicans!
I love you though! You're so bombtastic you make my wack!
Heck yeah! 
Oh yeah! How could I forget!
Bumping up the gay thread... right back to the top!
This thread is the "pitcher." All the other threads in the IM section are "catchers." If you know what I mean. And I know you do! 
This thread was getting just a tad bit HETERO what with all the tupper/s. love goings-on (jane s. is MY date for the prom, btw, will, so back off.)
To rectify this, (and the horrible abbreviation of this thread since the server went crashy-crashy) I re-bring you:
STICK-MAN BLOWJOB!!!
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Too bad we all live in different states. We can take comfort in knowing the gay thread is back on top!
There is hope, but not for us.
We can also take comfort in Dec's awesome stick man blowjob!
It's neat (it got me hard), but the blower's got shoddy form. I mean, hello? That hand he's leaning on could be used to do SO much more than just support him.
That's what knees are for!
Did everyone here hear the good word?
GAY!
Back on top!
Sorry dec, I would like to go to prom with you but a) my prom is over and
since this is a gay thread, I'd probably have to go with kitty. Love you though!
Gay back on top!
There is hope, but not for us.
Hrm... The great irony here is that this is [b]exactly[/b] what all the girls said to me at my own prom...
Crap.
I guess that's why I am now trapped in a gay thread.
They told you that prom was over or that they were in a gay thread? Either way it seems like a bad excuse and my heart goes out to you (unless you asked them to go to prom after prom was over, that's more your fault).
There is hope, but not for us.
Details! Details!
Well, if it was the week after prom and you went up to a girl and asked, "Would you like to go to prom?" and you went to the same school and everything, so you had the same prom, maybe she was right to reject you. It's just kinda dumb.
Not saying you're dumb or anything...
Think I'll stop now while I'm ahead.
There is hope, but not for us.
Dear Lord (Holy Buddha, etc), Please forgive Jane S. For she is the gay, and know not what she says.
Gaymen. 
Will, you are being so mean to me lately, not like your usual loving self! What the hell?
There is hope, but not for us.
Jane, I'm sorry! I didn't mean to be mean! I didn't even know I was being mean (sometimes I don't pay that good of attention).
I am really sorry. I am filled with love in my heart for you and Nebraska.
Here. I will write a haiku for you. Will then things be okay?
Please?
Haiku for Jane
By Will Tupper
Jane in Nebraska
Sexy in the tall wheat fields
Wish I could move now
It's not great... but it's the best I could do on such short notice.
Love!
Love!
Love!
me--->:):)<---you
Okay, all is forgiven. You are my Michigan friend again.
I know being gay with you is a big compliment. I'm sure if I saw you dance I would be like, "Wow! He's really pulling off the gay!" cause you are cool like that.
And I like the haiku because it is a special "I'm sorry" haiku that could only be written by a haiku genius such as yourself. Love!
There is hope, but not for us.
Awww... if you're not the sweatest ear of corn on this here farm, I don't know who is!
And yes. We can be gay together. However, I cannot in anyway (in real life - although I seem to do a resoundingly good impression here on the 'net) "pull off the gay" in real life. It's funny, because in some ways I almost wish I could pull it off (the gay), because then I wouldn't get so many dirty looks that I perceive as being about how scuzzy I dress.
It might be because my fly is down or something, but I do have pretty much no fashion sense. And I can't dance to save my life! I am the most hetero of Caucasian Rhythmless White Men. In fact, that is sometimes my native American name (Chief Gay).
So yeay! Everyone is happy with everyone else again. Yeay!
Love! 
All I have to say are these simple words.
Gay thread back on top!
There is hope, but not for us.
Darling Jane, that totally fucked with my head. Because I read what you wrote as, "All I have to say are THREE simple words."
Then I was all, "hold on a minute. 'Gay thread back on top!' is FIVE simple words!"
I was so worried!
Thank goodness for rereading! Love!
I love it when people misread things. LIke the time I said chewing on pens and someone thought I wrote penis. Or the time dec thought kitty's quote said, "There should be treatment, but cannabalism is wrong."
Or my favorite: "And this is why, every high schooler should smoke crack."
You are so sweet to worry that I couldn't count. Always watching out for me. 
There is hope, but not for us.
You know it! I got your back, Jack!
Er... I mean, Jane!
For sure, this is why every high schooler should smoke crack!
(resisting urge to make joke about certain youngster on this here board... resisting... resisting...
)
I love everyone! Woo! High on life and not on crack!
There is hope, but not for us.
YEAY!
jane s. is my hero. Let that be recorded on heaven's unchangeable heart. Yeay!
I am flattered. I love you will! Will, of the cool avatar and the pacifistic Buddhist attitude. Will, you are, in reciprocation, my hero too.
There is hope, but not for us.
Yeay! Mutual hero worship is the yeay! Yeay!
Will, I think this thread is becoming way too hetero: it has degenerated into us saying how much we love each other all the time. Someone else needs to come in here and straighten us out.
There is hope, but not for us.
JANE YOU'RE GAY!
BUT THAT'S OKAY! SO AM I!
OUR GAY IS GOOD!
Okay. I got nothing.
Someone else, help us out!
Okay, no one else is going to come in and rescue us from the hetero, are they?
Oh well. I love you will! Yay!
There is hope, but not for us.
if either of you wants, you can have my homosexually inclined plastic people as your avatar.
i do not need them, for you see, i'm not homosexually inclined.
I'd sure hope not, as then you would have a lot of explaining to do to your wife...
Will is not allowed to change his avatar, and I already have a new one picked out, I just need my bro to photoshop it down for me, cause I'm dumb like that. But I am glad the bear is back, and hope to someday find an avatar as good as the dead bear or the small child being cracked in the noggin.
There is hope, but not for us.


hmm...you're probably right valium....margaret cho on tussin lol.
"Let dat tussin get in there, boy!!"
chris rock rules.
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