no twist or did I just miss it?
After reading Survivor, I didn't feel the same way after I've read other of CP books. There was no cool twist in the story that his other books are known for...
I was wondering... Did i just miss the twist, or is there not that big of a one to make much importance?
yeah i heard about the secret ending... but that doesn't count... and yes I did get the soft cover book... if there really is a secret ending why hasn't anyone posted what it says? and i don't mean a summary... i mean the actual secret ending...
mine was a hardcover, and ripped it open once I read about it. Mine didn't have it! I was pissed. It was only in like, the first printing or something.
Why does everything have to have a "twist" ending to make it good?
No, guys, you're all retarded. What you have to do is set the book spine on fire, and the fumes form into the words of the secret ending. Totally.
it's written in lemon juice and the heat makes the words visible.
Well, I don't know about you, but it sure put my shorts in a twist, and that was good enough for me!
You can't hide what you intend, it glows in the dark. Once you start the path of revenge, there's no way to stop.
[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;982638]Why does everything have to have a "twist" ending to make it good?[/QUOTE]
Because that's what I know CP's work for. All his books i've read (Fight Club, Choke, Lullaby, and Rant) had some sort of twist. This book just had an empty feeling to it because it lacked one of the things I liked reading CP's books, a twist about the end that made you look at the story from a whole new perspective because the twist always fits with the way the book is written, and when you go back through the book a second time, you can see how he worked his twist throughout the book.... I guess I just missed that with Survivor...
I hate the anticipation of a twist, though - like in Shymalan movies, you know he's going to do a twist. Because the twist fits the plot? No! Because he likes twists! That just ruins endings for me, and without an ending then a book so often becomes a piece of garbage.
true... i wouldn't want a twist for the sake of a twist... but i do enjoy twists that fit the plot
well in survivors case you kind of knew the ending already...
I thought the Super Bowl was sort of a plot twist. It really got things rolling. And also, once you know the ending, the real ending, isn't that a twist as well?
When Tender meets Chubby Checker in the porno graveyard...
"To fail to embrace my dreams now would be a disgrace so great that sin itself would not be able to find a name for it." - Werner Herzog
Adam also being a hallucination was a bit of a twist.
ru sure that theory is a fact? Cause I still think that Adam and Tender are two separate people... otherwise why would Fertility talk about him?
Fertility was insane. She thought she was an alien sent to Earth to become impregnated.
No one has the right to teach us stuff we don't want to learn. That's what our Bill of Constitution's all about.
I prefer Pepsi to Coke... because there´s a Pepsi twist...
[QUOTE=kakunn;982702]I prefer Pepsi to Coke... because there´s a Pepsi twist...[/QUOTE]
Profound...and quoted for truth.
Everyone sort of has their own opinion as to how Survivor ends it seems. However, as some have said, Chuck did actually reveal what happens at the end of the book, which I suppose is the "true" ending of it. I picked up on the whole "tape recorder bitching at the black box" thing, which is a really good ending. But I like to believe that all we know for sure is that Tender is not on the plane anymore, and everything beyond that is left completely up to the imaginations and interpretations of Palahniuk's readers.
Since when did a book need a twist to be any good?!
As it happens though the real ending to Survivor is a twist, and a good one at that. I didnt guess it was a tape and box at least, maybe i missed some clues while i was reading!
[QUOTE=alexander_thorul;982677]I hate the anticipation of a twist, though - like in Shymalan movies, you know he's going to do a twist. Because the twist fits the plot? No! Because he likes twists! That just ruins endings for me, and without an ending then a book so often becomes a piece of garbage.[/QUOTE]
ugh. i hate shymalan BECAUSE OF his twists. its like, i watch two hours of ure crap, and then there is this crazy twist that is supposed to make me feel like what i have just witnessed was, in fact pure genius. fuck that.
when i saw the title of this thread i thought it was going to be about the musician, no twist. but i digress, i don't understand why everything has to twist and turn and fuck with your mind, sometimes the best stories, most original, and most fucked up, are those that just stick with the facts...or the fictional facts as it were
soooo I am too lazy to search for it but a few years ago someone found the "hidden" ending and posted it on here. I believe you had to highlight the selected passage to reveal it...needless to say, there is a twist if you can find it...good hunting!
[url]http://chuckpalahniuk.net/books/survivor/survivorending.php[/url]
here's the link to the needs-to-be-highlighted survivor ending.
actually its pretty obvious you need to smoke the fumes, then when you are high , Tender pops up and tells you the ending.
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What an amateur thread bump.
So then what is the "Secret ending" when you tear at the book?
So then what is the "Secret ending" when you tear at the book?
Do it!
whoa, whoa whoa, explain this whole, knowing-it's-just-a-tape-recorder-on-the-plane mentality. Because, if it's there, I totally whiffed on that one. I thought the book did, however, leave the door open to Tender finding a way to get off the plane or surviving the crash ... a play with the title perhaps.
Tell me again about how much of an asshole I am.
I just finished this last night and loved the shit out of it.
And I thought there were a few twists throughout the whole story. Like Adam being alive after the family suicides and killing off all the other survivors. And Adam being the one who pulled the plug on the whole cult. And of course the geneenius ending/beginning.
Also, I just smelled coffee beans for the first time, great stuff.
^ And that's my lame attempt at being metaphorical.
THIS IS THE HAPPIEST TALE EVER TOLD EVER.
Two blondes walked into a train track. Between the two of them, you'd think they'd--
Fertility was insane. She thought she was an alien sent to Earth to become impregnated.
Your thinking of the girl from Choke
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Fine. Maybe there isn't a traditional Chuck twist, but I have no problem with that. I still consider Survivor to probably be his best book.
"My hopes lay shattered like a mirror on the floor
I see myself and I look really scattered
But I lived my broken dreams"
- Daniel Johnston
Yes, old bean, you did miss the twist. If you bought it in softcover, you are apparently missing the magical ending that Palahniuk added in there - I've been told that if you have a hard cover, tearing at the back of your book will reveal additional pages. This probably sounds ridiculous and as if I'm just trying to be mean and make you feel foolish, but I'm quite serious that this is what I've been told to do. I refused to do it, of course, because secret endings hidden in back covers don't fly with me, and I had the soft cover anyway. Enjoy.