Movie Ending

i thought it should be left as a mystery the way the book was. But I really like your ending of the movie. When I was reading it, I just imagined Tender sitting there crouched as it fades in and out switching to different camera angles (similar to the scene in fight club where tyler leaves), and as he starts doing the testing, it does this but at the last where it cuts off it stays black. The problem with that one was it really seems like he's dead (although you owuldnt hear a crash. And so you wouldnt know anythig about the tape recorder. However in the book, apart from the beginning there was no mention of one either. I just think the mystery should be retained but the tape recorder should be shown on top of the pile of stuff taken, and the moviegoer can decide.

I think when he comes out of the bathroom at the beginning he should be wearing a shirt with a breast pocket and have a little tape recorder shaped lump in it, or something like that. Or maybe fertility could just hand him a handfull of stuff and there would be a recorder in it, just so you notice it.

Also, I think if the movie starts off with him coming out of the bathroom over the company credits you should hear him saying "Testing, Testing, One Two Three" so it would work as him saying that in the bathroom or just as an introduction to the line depending on how you thought it out.

that could be, he came out of the bathroom? i thought he just pissed out of the ariplane, but I'm a little fuzzy on that. But obviously trhe movie could have him do it anyway. I guess I'd just prefer to leave it the way the book is and not have too many hints at the tape recorder.

I just imagine it as him sitting in the cockpit giving his final speach, he slowly turns around, it fades to black as he says "Testing, testing one two."

I think it should how him in the cockput giving his final speech, similer to Leo's idea, and it closes up on him and he says "Testing, testing one tw-" and the screen goes black(it doesn't fade).

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by XChuck [/i]
[B]I think it should how him in the cockput giving his final speech, similer to Leo's idea, and it closes up on him and he says "Testing, testing one tw-" and the screen goes black(it doesn't fade). [/B][/QUOTE]
yea that was the other one, with that echo effect, i love that echo thing...

I always pictured the camera panning across the empty airplane, with all the high class silverware and everything, and half-filled wine glasses still sitting unattended. Maybe some type of sad music as you hear the last chapter of the book, or whatever. But you don't actually see Tender, so it can still have an open ending for whoever thinks about it. But I like theway yours sounds too Alex.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by glamhoth [/i]
[B]yea that was the other one, with that echo effect, i love that echo thing... [/B][/QUOTE]

No. No echo effect.

Yes, I agree; an echo would be....inappropriate. The way I see it, the camera slowly zooms in on Tender's face, where the windows are not visible (so we can't see the plane going down), as he says, "Testing, testing, one, two--" and then screen goes black.

::roll credits::

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SingleServingMe [/i]
[B]Yes, I agree; an echo would be....inappropriate. The way I see it, the camera slowly zooms in on Tender's face, where the windows are not visible (so we can't see the plane going down), as he says, "Testing, testing, one, two--" and then screen goes black.

::roll credits:: [/B][/QUOTE]

Exactly. And to get into the details, I think right before the screen goes black, Tender should look away from the screen(he should be looking a little bit off camera anyway, but I want his attention to change, and have him look somewhere else).

For those of you who think that it should be of Tender in the cock pit, as he says his final words:

Do you really think that as his plane was crashing into the ground he would just stand there and calmly say, Testing Testing One Two--? It would make no sense and it would look terrible.

He was about to crash an airplane! There's no way you could show him saying the last lines of the book as if he's just waiting in the cockpit, staring pensively telling his story. The camera can't be pointing at Tender as the story ends. It might pass in a book, but to see it in a movie would be ridiculous. The movie would have to factor in the tape recorder as well, or else it would be an incredible disappointment.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Urban Devi [/i]
[B]There is no tape recorder... all the stuff gets recorded onto the BLACK BOX equipped in all airplanes. This is how Tender attemted to have his story is preserved. A little tape recorder in his pocket would burn up and be destroyed in a crash and his story would be lost, but the BLACK BOX is almost always found with information recorded on it.

I dont think we should be shown what happens. To me this was a huge point of the book and a huge part of their relationship.

Fertility Hollis was never wrong. Whatever she said would happen always did. She said he was going to make it, and he HAD to believe her because she was ALWAYS right. He had to have FAITH in her even when it seemed his situation was hopeless.

If we are left not being shown what happens, then we as an audience are also asked to have faith in Fertility Hollis and we can only decide that she is right, and that Tender Branson is alive and well despite appearances. [/B][/QUOTE]

They're referring to the tape recorder that Tender recorded his story into then placed in the cockpit while he jumped to saftey.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by XChuck [/i]
[B]No. No echo effect. [/B][/QUOTE]
i think i chose my wording wrong on that, that's not really what i had in mind when i said it.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]They're referring to the tape recorder that Tender recorded his story into then placed in the cockpit while he jumped to saftey. [/B][/QUOTE]

He doesn't bring a tape recorder. When he got on the plane all he had was the gun. All cockpits are equipped with hidden tape recorders that feed into the black box. Are we sure he jumped to safety? That's kind of what I thought since he made one of the pilots leave and it would make sense they have a chute for both pilots.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NinjaGenuis37 [/i]
[B]I didn't think he brought a tape recorder. When he got on the plane all he had was the gun. All cockpits are equipped with hidden tape recorders that feed into the black box I thought that is what he was talking into.

And Are we sure he jumped to safety? That's kind of what I thought since he made one of the pilots leave and it would make sense they have a chute for both pilots. [/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NinjaGenuis37 [/i]
[B]He doesn't bring a tape recorder. When he got on the plane all he had was the gun. All cockpits are equipped with hidden tape recorders that feed into the black box. Are we sure he jumped to safety? That's kind of what I thought since he made one of the pilots leave and it would make sense they have a chute for both pilots. [/B][/QUOTE]

Dude, wtf are you talking about? The passengers left a tape recorder on board when they evacuated. He mentions this on page 8 or 7. He recites the remainder of the story into this tape recorder when he uses the bathroom. He comes back, starts playing the tape recorder in the cockpit, then jumps to safety using the parachute. Pay attention, and note that this is just "theory".

we really dont know if he dies anyway... the book has him die (supposedly)... but chuck says he lives in his "alter-ending"... so we really are clueless... i dont really care how the movie ends as long as it is conterversial, and it gives me chills down my back... i luv that... but anyway, you could always do the "double ending" ie - clue (although that had like 5) hehe...

have him giving his final little soliloquy and have it cut to black mid-sentence, in the middle of his words, kinda like the end of Rules Of Attraction

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Alex [/i]
[B]Alright, assuming a film adaptation of Survivor ever gets done, what do you think should be done with the ending. Would it be better to let him die or show him meeting up with Fertility again?

The image I keep getting in my head to preserve the book's dual ending is that once the fourth engine burns out there should be a barely audible click as it cuts to Tender and Fertility, visibly pregnant, dancing on a streetcorner in Sydney or Melbourne or any other Australian city. Tender gives his final speech over them dancing. When he gets to the "Today is a beautiful day. Testing, Testing, One Two -" the two of them kiss and as their lips meet two cars crash in the intersection behind them. Then fade to black.

That's about the only way I can think of preserving the ending of the book.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Sounds good. some may interpret the ending as what actually happens to Tender, some may interpret it as a fantasy in his or Fertility's head

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Adversary [/i]
[B]Dude, wtf are you talking about? The passengers left a tape recorder on board when they evacuated. He mentions this on page 8 or 7. He recites the remainder of the story into this tape recorder when he uses the bathroom. He comes back, starts playing the tape recorder in the cockpit, then jumps to safety using the parachute. Pay attention, and note that this is just "theory". [/B][/QUOTE]

No offense but, YOU pay attention. He says on the first page (289) that he's speaking to the plane's flight recorder.

never mind. I just read the intended ending by Palahniuk. a thousand apologies for my previous ignorance

hmmmmmm

I think either way there needs to be a plane crash at the end. Maybe just testing, testing then the crash and then black. Or as the plane is crashing a pan of inside the plane and one of the doors is open and then boom crash and we see what happens inside a plane when it crashes.

You could make it real quick like right before impact you get a glimpse of a door being open then destruction.