Who is Tyler for you?
Tyler in the book was Jack's supreme state of being, he was everything Jack wanted to be. I saw this quote in the forum that said "find you inner durden", it got me thinking, who is Tyler for me?
I imagine it's somone involved in music, with lots of freinds living in the music scene of New York or LA. It's something you should really consider, or atleast something I've benn considering. Who do you want to be?
I think thats how Jack created Tyler, like it says in the movie, "people do it everyday, they see themselves, the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it." ~Tyler
BTW, if your response is "I want to be surrounded by chicks/money/fame with rock hard abs/amazing athletic ability/super powers" think deeper.
tyler for me?
funny, i was waiting for someone to post this question
look him up, his account name is Life According to Zen
i procrastinate
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funny, my tyler's account name is Your Puppet, Chad.
My Tyler lives in a VW van by the river.
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This is [B]sheenUGH[/B].
[QUOTE=Jarafrica]At first I thought this was going to be another pathetic "WWTDD?" type post.
My Tyler Durden is someone who can actually decide who his Tyler Durden is. I hope that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
That does make sense, you wanna know who you really wanna be. This was a big part of space monkey training, "what did you wanna do before you die?". it takes responsibility to ask yourself that question because then you have to look at who you are now. I really like that answer of yours.
WWTD posts are awful, although I had my little Tyler facsination for a little bit. It sucks that these forums get covered by things like that though.
[QUOTE=sheenUGH]My Tyler lives in a VW van by the river.[/QUOTE]
no, Matt Foley lives in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
my tyler is the person i wish i was. i don't know who that is yet. but someday i will.
i'm gonna eat your children!
I dunno.
Someone who can make a change on the world, however minor...
And has women. Lots of women...
Or possibly just the one, big woman...
My Tyler is friend of mine i graduated with recently. And i never thought about it until now, but we share the same first name. Damn that's weird. I would say he's imaginary but other people see and talk to him too. It's weird though, i guess aside from the fact that, like the much fictional Tyler, he opened my eyes to the world around me, he helped realize that there's a Tyler Durden in each of us just waiting for the echoing whisper of dissatisfaction or the pop that an impact makes when you get hit just right.
"Hell is other people." No Exit, Sartre
I don't understand how anyone could pick another person as their "Tyler". The entire point of Tyler's being is to be the person YOU want to be, not be someone else. Everybody would love to be as carefree and witty as Tyler Durden, but no matter what you say, there are certain societal restraints that hold us all back.
[QUOTE=Scott~]I don't understand how anyone could pick another person as their "Tyler". The entire point of Tyler's being is to be the person YOU want to be, not be someone else. Everybody would love to be as carefree and witty as Tyler Durden, but no matter what you say, there are certain societal restraints that hold us all back.[/QUOTE]
I guess, that's true. But there always is a person that seems close to Tyler. Maybe not in the exact ways, but you could see how someone would remind you of him.
"What we do in life, echos an eternity."
But the point of this entire thread, unless I have missed it, is who Tyler would be for YOU.
Therefore, who your ideal self would be, without the constraints of society and such. Who you would LIKE to be, but could never really be (at least in your mind) for whatever reason. But it reflects who you ARE, a person. Your inner core.
I s'pose.
But, hey, I'm probably wrong, and it's a thread about spikey haired dudes with an eclectic taste in clothing.
Glad you asked. No, really. This is going to sound so elementary and cheesy, but you can deal with it. After my best friend and I saw the movie, we decided that the two of us together are Tyler Durden. She is exactly me in a different body. We are the same person. On birthday cards or Christmas gifts or anything, we always sign it, "Mr. Durden" or "Tyler". So yeah... Kendra is my Tyler.
-Alicia
I'm my Tyler.
my tyler durden is a character in a novel i'm writing right now, whom i am living vicariously through...
is that pathetic or just a normal writin process?
one time a while ago i was on a massive amount of acid and hanging out with my friend who was on a not as massive amount of acid. he kept disappearing even though we were together the whole time. we were in a store and i had offered to buy him a drink. suddenly when i got to the counter he was gone. then we were walking together and he again disappeared. i started thinking that he wasn't real and i had made him up. i thought he was my tyler but it was probably just some sort of episode brought on by the drug.
if i had to characterize my tyler i would say that he always takes hold of every opportunity. he comes when he is called. he is right minded because he doesn't regret anything. his mind does not stop on anything so he can consider all things at once.
he had switched the dice
and that wasn't nice only he didn't know i knew.
-Lightnin' Rod
I notice everyone talks about "their Tyler", not themselves. everyone's Tyler seems to be made up of spontaneous individual, who is courageous without fear, and whom they can only seem to contact under the influences of drugs. Well, damn I read a story about that once, and it was called Fight Club, and in this story the guy allows "his Tyler", to take over. So, the question should be, if you were "your Tyler", what would you do?
You gotta get behind the mule in the morning and plow.
really, its just me without my character defects. the ideal version of me. a figment of my imagination. the person i strive to be.
by the way, nice avatar
[QUOTE=joeyjojojrshabadoo]I notice everyone talks about "their Tyler", not themselves. everyone's Tyler seems to be made up of spontaneous individual, who is courageous without fear, and whom they can only seem to contact under the influences of drugs. Well, damn I read a story about that once, and it was called Fight Club, and in this story the guy allows "his Tyler", to take over. So, the question should be, if you were "your Tyler", what would you do?[/QUOTE]
good point joeyjojo. i think if i were my tyler i would just call everyone on their bullshit (not just on forums but in real life too) and also call myself on my bullshit as well rather than just thinking "why are/am they/i saying this? its obviously a meaningless lie like the ones i always invent to convince myself that i'm doing exactly what i want and getting exactly what i need." its kind of hard to face how fucked my life really is (and how most of it is my fault) rather than just pretending it isn't. furthermore, i think that people can only tap into 'their tyler' while on drugs is because the drug numbs the pain of facing their faults and accepting them (temporarily).
he had switched the dice
and that wasn't nice only he didn't know i knew.
-Lightnin' Rod
"People do it everyday; they see themselves the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it." -Tyler
I think the question is: If you had the courage to run with it, what would you be?
I would be exactly the same person I am now, only there would be a change of scenery. A few months ago I was going to steal my brother's car (as a 16 year old, without any sort of liscense), get some Pixies tunes going, and just drive as far south as possible. Then I realized that I'd rather just stay here at my parent's house with my hot chocolate and twinkies and high school and wait until at least college to fuck up my life and the lives of the people who care about me.
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[QUOTE=sick girl]"People do it everyday; they see themselves the way they want to be. You just had the courage to run with it." -Tyler
I think the question is: If you had the courage to run with it, what would you be?
I would be exactly the same person I am now, only there would be a change of scenery. A few months ago I was going to steal my brother's car (as a 16 year old, without any sort of liscense), get some Pixies tunes going, and just drive as far south as possible. Then I realized that I'd rather just stay here at my parent's house with my hot chocolate and twinkies and high school and wait until at least college to fuck up my life and the lives of the people who care about me.[/QUOTE]
i see the first part. you lost me on the second. having the courage to run with it doesn't mean stealing cars and abandoning everything that you care about. that sounds like an extreme reaction to fear. of course you shouldn't make all of your decisions (especially the big ones) based on how it will affect other people. however, doing things that you know will hurt others will not prove that you have the courage to 'run with it'. especially if that is your intention (to prove it). actually in a perverse sort of way that proves that you are still acting based on your predicted reaction from others (only in this case you are doing what people don't want you to do rather than what they do want you to do). there is just as much emptiness that way. the difference is that you will get into a different kind of trouble that way. a much more tangible kind.
he had switched the dice
and that wasn't nice only he didn't know i knew.
-Lightnin' Rod
Hello,
I'm new here. Its great there is a forum just for Fight Night! I hope this is the right thread to start.
I saw the film a few years ago and and now half way though reading the book I bought on Amazon a couple of days ago.
I do not buy into the terrorisum aspects, though I have been eating beans and farting in departments store revolving doors and lifts for many years - long before fight club!
I am seriousy pissed off in life and have many questions! To be honest, if there was a fight club I would go right now. Anyone know that feeling?
For starters - are there or have there ever been any fight clubs for real?
Are there others here who find this book has an appeal because of a mean streek/dual personality type thing?
Thanks
Saul
I had a dream about Tyler very early this morning. I was in my workshop berating myself for having been sloppy and lost track of most of my tools. Then Tyler walks in with a tool caddy and says, "Thanks for the tools, man." Then I said, "No wonder I couldn't find my tools." I felt relieved rather than pissed. It's like I thought I was going crazy for losing track of all this stuff, and then I found out that Tyler had them, so there was a logical explanation for why I couldn't find them. I wonder what the heck Tyler was doing with all those tools. Then the dog woke me up with her whining, so I didn't get to find out what else was going to happen.
This is a really good idea.
what a shitty thread to bump
[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;923141]what a shitty thread to bump[/QUOTE]
Let's go find Saul van Soest and kick his ass!
This is a really good idea.
he'll learn
How nice to get a reaction! Is meathinker also me a pissied off fighter by any chance?! I hope so.
I'm cutting back on thinking myself. I've decided to split my personality down the middle and feel more. The fault line was always there anyway.
Off to work now. The usual Sunday late shift for me - keeping violent inmates appart and coping with agression without resorting to it myself - as per protocol.
Tyler for me is myself loaded with alcohol and Coke but without the slurring and repetitiveness.
[QUOTE=Saul van Soest;923234]How nice to get a reaction! Is meathinker also me a pissied off fighter by any chance?! I hope so.
I'm cutting back on thinking myself. I've decided to split my personality down the middle and feel more. The fault line was always there anyway.
Off to work now. The usual Sunday late shift for me - keeping violent inmates appart and coping with agression without resorting to it myself - as per protocol.[/QUOTE]
Sounds to me like you're [I]going native[/I] maybe you need a vacation or something before you end up in divorce. Mostly I'm just [I]really annoyed and jaded[/I] and not so much pissed off lately.
This is a really good idea.
I need more than a holiday. I am seriously looking for other work. This is the main frustration at present. My realtionship with my partner is fine.
I am busy getting in touch with my Tyler side. (Shound that be we?) I am just so f******* nice it really is sickening. (Can you use swear words here?) See what I mean. Too considerate by far. I tend to have a volcanic personality. A mountain with flowers and bunnies that blows its top every now and again with dramatic fallout.
I'd like to have more frequent eruptions directed in ways which reduce fustration.
I'd like to have a bloody good fist fight just for the sake of it and live for once.
What is it for you that is so attractive about Fight Night?
Well it's a long story, but my bones are kind of fragile at the moment. So, Fight Night is out of the question for me since I don't want to go on disability indefinitely. PS being nice comes from worrying too much about what other people think and wanting to be liked / get approval. Maybe you have inherited some unrealistic standards from one of your parents, but you think that they are your standards. At least, that was my problem.
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This is a really good idea.
In some ways a real fight club is unrealistic, yes. If health and responsibility are considered then one would not go ahead with a fight club fight! But the idea of being irisponsible and aggressive has an attraction for people like me that are otherwise conformist, kind, strong, wise, secure, educated and all those other things that are so safe and so very deadining. Its just the fight club part of the fiction that facinates me. The terrorist aspects do nothing for me at all - there is so much of that these days on the news for one thing!
[QUOTE=Saul van Soest;923691]irisponsible...educated...deadining[/QUOTE]
I think your problem is that you're a closet case! That's what Fight Club is about in case you don't know.
my tyler punched me in a face several times, stupid fuck
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I wonder what the fuck tyler is doing with my tools at night. I hope he's disassembling the loud fucking speaker system those fuckers have in their car next door, or maybe cut the brake line. I wonder if it's possible to crank the volume all the way to the max with the car turned off or if it's a digitial unit.
This is a really good idea.
[QUOTE=Saul van Soest;923691]In some ways a real fight club is unrealistic, yes. If health and responsibility are considered then one would not go ahead with a fight club fight! But the idea of being irisponsible and aggressive has an attraction for people like me that are otherwise conformist, kind, strong, wise, secure, educated and all those other things that are so safe and so very deadining. Its just the fight club part of the fiction that facinates me. The terrorist aspects do nothing for me at all - there is so much of that these days on the news for one thing![/QUOTE]
either start painting or get a 200# heavy bag to punch
Someone once asked me if I could be anyone would I be. Most people said certain actors like Tom Hanks or Bruce Willis whoever. I said Tyler Durden and everyone was like but he's not real, and I was like he's the single being that you want to be, what you try to reach to become your whole life. My Durden would not worry about possesions, money, women, anything stupid as valueables would hold dear. I would do the things I was, I'd be Chef Tyler, not the dirty one probably that pisses in the soup, but clean food
). Wouldn't worry about my money situation or stupid valuables but more my reading, writing, gardening, cooking, finding the inner person inside of me. Explore, travel be the boyscout that he is and that would be amazing, all of these seem like stupid little hobbies but hey Tyler made soap, he cooked, he spliced reels, he was a salesman, he blew shit up, he did whatever the fuck he wanted to do, not worry about any consequence and just let himself give up, scum of the earth "so be it". That's Tyler to me but we are all stuck in Jack mode, can't understand, we may try but never become nothing, we always have to hold onto to some or someone. :headbang:
I wouldn't call everyone with a job as being in "Jack Mode"
giving up everything and becoming Tyler Durden is fine and all till you start getting hungry and want to wipe your ass with something a little softer than scratchy newspapers
Well actually I am comming out! By being a dual personality that works together I/we have got much further over the last few days.
you saying you're gay?
huh?
No. Just comming out as a dual personality!
my tyler is a friend of mine.
he succeeds where i fail in almost everything
This is my Tyler talking right now... :eek:
"Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there are only individuals." --Oscar Wilde
My "Inner Durden" is something that I am trying to achieve.
He's pissy and ready to fight. No affected by human attachments. Hostile to all but his closest contact, and at that he can still be taken as an ass hole.
As far as where i am on this?
only 1 point.
oh...and i don't think he buys anything...
I've had Helter Skelter (what you could call my inner Durden) for as long as I could remember.
At first she was just an imaginary friend I played with (we moved a lot when I was a kid, so I never had the time to make real friends).
She's much stronger and braver than I am, so after a while I came up with the brilliant strategy of just pretending to be her whenever I'm scared or nervous. I still do this.
Tyler Durden To Me is a realization that even if we won't ever admit it he's like the alter ego thats hidden in all of us. That there's a little Tyler Durden in everyone. There's a part of everyone that's the total opposite of the person. It's the side of the person that is hidden yet seems to come alive at times of complete utter stress and frustration. In your smirking way you think, you act, and you do as you've always wanted to but nothing thought you'd do. Tyler Durden is my hero. He's changed my beliefs on life and now I see everything in a much different perspective.
[QUOTE=Schism;343126]Tyler in the book was Jack's supreme state of being, he was everything Jack wanted to be. I saw this quote in the forum that said "find you inner durden", it got me thinking, who is Tyler for me?
And for me Tyler Durden is my favourite alter- ego..:notworthy
"I could tell by the tone of his voice that he was trying to make me see his point, but really...all I could see was the big fucking knife."
Someone more talented, better at music.
Someone who isn't afraid to be more assertive and can be taken seriously.
My Tyler Durden is some hot bitch living in a low rent Brooklyn apartment typing up an article for Spin Magazine while drinking Heineken from a wine glass.
Unfortunately I might find myself, ten years from now, as a cold bitch still in Manila and gritting my teeth to write obituaries.


At first I thought this was going to be another pathetic "WWTDD?" type post.
My Tyler Durden is someone who can actually decide who his Tyler Durden is. I hope that makes sense.
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