Narrator's Name

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So, I'm having an argument with a buddy about the Narrotor's name.

He thinks it is Jack.

I think he doens't have one.

He thinks IMDB is right.

I think the only way to know is to get the answer from Chuck. 

 

Is there a way to find any real documentation regarding the Narrator's possible name.

 

Thanks!

/sorry if this was posted before.  i'm at work and gotta make this quick!



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Ted.



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Theodore, actually.

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Wasn't Theodore the man who owned the pub? Theodore's Pub? That sounds right.



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In the movie he doesn't have a name. In the book his name is Joe.



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NO! His name is Joe in the engloish musical adaptation, but in the book he has no name. IMDB lists him as Jack, but only because Ed Norton insisted on a name other than "narrator" for the credits. Make some research.



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Chloe? I thought of the narrator as Jack but is Tyler who is Chloe. It makes sense to me that Chloe is Tyler Durden. Isn't that who Tyler Durden was based off of, Chloe? So, actually I thought it was Chloe who is Tyler speaking through Jack.



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double-post.

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Ugh.  It almost seems like even asking here is a mistake.

In the movie, he reads stuff like "I am Jack's..." from the articles and then narrates them, to himself, and you hear him narrate it times later in the moive.  In the credits it is listed as Narrator.  It doesn't say Jack anywhere in the credits I've seen.  Sorry, guy who told someone to "[do] some research", but you should also.

In the book, he reads stuff like "I am Joe's..." from the articles and then narrates them, to himself, and you read what he is narrating to himself later in the book. When he confronts Marla about who he is he narrates things like "My parents know my real name". The Narrator never actually SAYS anything in the book as you would traditionally SAY anything in books (i.e., with quotes [" "]).

There is no way on God's green Earth that Chloe is anything more than a skeleton Meryl Streep. Tyler isn't anything involving that cancer victim. How is a man with all that muscle, brain, and charisma based off a dying woman? That is insane. Tyler is kinda like the "Id" of the narrator, the subconscious.



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The narrator doesn't have a name in the book OR movie. They just switched it from Joe to Jack for the film because they couldn't get Reader's Digest to give them the rights to use the articles he reads from so they just changed the name.



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Thank you!



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Nate, you've answered this question before, haven't you?



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many, many times.



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The narrator doesn't have a name in the book OR movie.

I don't think it is to unreasonable to assume he has a name.  He was probably given a name at birth or while being raised.  I'm sure his boss wouldn't hire him without a name. Also, in the book he says that his parents know his name.

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." <Gin Rummy>

So just because his name was never flat out told to the reader as his name, nor told or shown (possibly on his driver's license or business card would have been a neat spot) to the viewer in the movie, does not mean that his name was not supposed to be Joe/Jack.

Maybe we as the readers and viewers are supposed to be clever enough to realize his name is Joe/Jack without indiscriminate proof of this fact. 

 

They just switched it from Joe to Jack for the film because they couldn't get Reader's Digest to give them the rights to use the articles he reads from so they just changed the name.

Am I understanding you correctly that they got around the rights by changing the name because the name (Joe) was part of a quote out of the article?  If so, wow that's really all you have to change for it not to be copywright infringement?  Wish I knew that in high school... :^Þ

 



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HunterNIU wrote:

The narrator doesn't have a name in the book OR movie.

I don't think it is to unreasonable to assume he has a name.  He was probably given a name at birth or while being raised.  I'm sure his boss wouldn't hire him without a name. Also, in the book he says that his parents know his name.

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." <Gin Rummy>

So just because his name was never flat out told to the reader as his name, nor told or shown (possibly on his driver's license or business card would have been a neat spot) to the viewer in the movie, does not mean that his name was not supposed to be Joe/Jack.

Maybe we as the readers and viewers are supposed to be clever enough to realize his name is Joe/Jack without indiscriminate proof of this fact.

The narrator doesn't have a name ~~> IN<~~ the book or movie.

in the world of the book or movie, he is never given an actual name. Of course, it can be figured he does HAVE one, but it's never given.

 

They just switched it from Joe to Jack for the film because they couldn't get Reader's Digest to give them the rights to use the articles he reads from so they just changed the name.

Am I understanding you correctly that they got around the rights by changing the name because the name (Joe) was part of a quote out of the article?  If so, wow that's really all you have to change for it not to be copywright infringement?  Wish I knew that in high school... :^Þ

 

For the small amount they used the articles in the film, yeah, that's all they really needed to do. If they were going to use the entire article word for word, and use it over and over, they'd need to do a lot more than just change the name. If they were just going to use the line once and that was it they probably could get away with using the entire thing. But for the amount the did use it, (maybe 10 times throughout the film/book?) and just using the first line from it and not the entire article. Just changing the name does a lot to take away from them having to worry about a lawsuit later on.  They also did the same thing with the dynamite recipe.



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nathaniel parker wrote:

HunterNIU wrote:

The narrator doesn't have a name in the book OR movie.

I don't think it is to unreasonable to assume he has a name.  He was probably given a name at birth or while being raised.  I'm sure his boss wouldn't hire him without a name. Also, in the book he says that his parents know his name.

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." <Gin Rummy>

So just because his name was never flat out told to the reader as his name, nor told or shown (possibly on his driver's license or business card would have been a neat spot) to the viewer in the movie, does not mean that his name was not supposed to be Joe/Jack.

Maybe we as the readers and viewers are supposed to be clever enough to realize his name is Joe/Jack without indiscriminate proof of this fact.

The narrator doesn't have a name ~~> IN<~~ the book or movie.

in the world of the book or movie, he is never given an actual name. Of course, it can be figured he does HAVE one, but it's never given.

 

They just switched it from Joe to Jack for the film because they couldn't get Reader's Digest to give them the rights to use the articles he reads from so they just changed the name.

Quote:
Am I understanding you correctly that they got around the rights by changing the name because the name (Joe) was part of a quote out of the article?  If so, wow that's really all you have to change for it not to be copywright infringement?  Wish I knew that in high school... :^Þ

 

For the small amount they used the articles in the film, yeah, that's all they really needed to do. If they were going to use the entire article word for word, and use it over and over, they'd need to do a lot more than just change the name. If they were just going to use the line once and that was it they probably could get away with using the entire thing. But for the amount the did use it, (maybe 10 times throughout the film/book?) and just using the first line from it and not the entire article. Just changing the name does a lot to take away from them having to worry about a lawsuit later on.  They also did the same thing with the dynamite recipe.



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I think I know a little more about this than any of you. Make some research!

 
I'm so happy someone on this thread took my post seriously. Mayhem!



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I think I know a little more about this than any of you. Make some research!

 

What the hell does "make some research" mean?  Like make up research and pretend its real?



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What kinds of question his these? You are not from the Cult for very long! Make some rreserch or the he-she will come for you!



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I like this thread, reminds me of the good old days.

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