Fight Club Sources

are you a teacher dude?

C Jung Synchonicity

whats that one about? is it by the famous George Jung's daughter??

I'm a professor of english at the university of british columbia. I'm half a decade younger than CP, and am currently teaching FC in a first year class. Jung was a psychiatrist. Tyler Durden is the narrator's "Jungian shadow" and the author's continuous repetition of certain words or images could be described as his attempt to mimick "Jungian synchronicity". I'm an ugly tattooed freak in real life, but what can you do?

hey its all good dude. if your a teacher and down with Fight Club, than your down with me

That was awesome. I've wanted a list like this for a really long time. You are the professor man of professor men, gilligan!

you can tell he's a professor b/c he says "half a decade" instead of "five years."

Kitty is being unfair. And I was going to ask Kitty if there was a good (and I mean really really serious) fiction forum anywhere to post stuff. I'm just finishing a novel and I want to get some readers opinions.

um...well...i'd have to have some shockingly low self-esteem if i said anything other than this one...we are readers...

and kitty was making a joke. little joke. little one?

Well, I followed your id to studio 254 or wherever it is, but the graphics and design were intimidatingly cool. I wasn't dressed appropriately to register or post there. I also figured out that you were probably really into literature, and I wanted to solicit where you thought the best places were to sort of find like-minded people (I'm not using my usual colleagues, publishers or friends--mainly cause I'm kind of unsure about this work).

234 studios? LOL. that's just the little msg board that my friends and i put together. the site, 234 studios, belongs to my friend tim, who's a 3-D graphics geek. that's why it looks the way it does.

LOL. he's going to be so psyched you said that, and i'm flattered you were so impressed, but you should really come post! in fact i have several forums there devoted to literature.

i'd be happy to talk with you about literature (i was an english major, recently graduated, if that helps) in either place. i haven't been able to find any good lit forums online (though there are a number of good resource sites) myself. that's why i made the one over at 234.

don't be shy. go over and post!!

There, I registered. I will be sure to post. If you don't mind me asking, which school did you go to? Did you do a major or honors degree? What was your favorite time period? Theoretical camp?

I did an MFA in god-forsaken Wichita (under Albert Goldbarth), an MA in British Columbia, and a PhD in Glasgow. I'm a paleographer and codicologist, but also do a lot of work on pop culture and medievalisms. When I was little, I did a BFA but the writers were mostly Canadian, so I doubt anyone heard of them. Last year, I taught Yale's first graduate creative writing classes in their 300 year history. Through the Divinity School. I'm not tenured or nothing and could be unemployed in a heart beat. I live in squalor and misery in one of the ugliest cities on the west coast (I know, most people's hearts are bleeding at this point).

my creds:

i got a BA in english literature at the godforsaken University of Massachusetts at Amherst. I graduated with honors, but did not do a thesis, as pleasing the gods of academe became less and less important in my life. i toyed with doing a thesis on either the dystopia in postmodern literature, or representations of new england in literature. but like i said, i did neither.

my favorite literary time period/camp/etc. is the realism of the early 20th century. Hemingway, Faulkner, Fitzgerald, those are my guys.

i too live in misery, being that after surviving UMass, i am still unemployable.

i know i'll get ripped a new one, but hey, hemingway is the only author i'll buy the books of. i'd even go as far as to say i like his stuff more than chuck's. you'll have to chat with me about his stuff sometime kitty.

Hemingway's great (and now his soul rests easier with my praise, I'm sure). I have a first ed. of [i]For Whom the Bell Tolls[/i], but it's practically worthless due to lack of dustjacket and the guy's name who owned it before me stamped every hundred pages. What kind of jerk does that? Then again, I completely ruined a limited print of Hardy's [i]Far From the Madding Crowd[/i] by writing a two page long inscription on the frontispiece to an ex, so I guess I was that kind of jerk.

Dr. Slagathor, it would be cool if you posted a link to your workl, say in pdf format or something, that we could check out. I may be just a poor military slob with ambitions at an english degree, but I'd be happy to give an opinion.

Yep, I'd also love to read some of your writings Slag! 'Synchronicity' was one idea I really liked from Jung, it seemed to coincide with 'morphic relativism' (Rupert Sheldrake), and 'the implicate order' (Bohm).

You said you just finished a novel??? First or are there others?

You can email me for the first few chapters of the novel. I'm a little worried that it doesn't make enough sense. And I'd also be willing to let anyone who wants see at least the lecture versions of some of the fight club papers. I've got two books of poetry published, and have been in about 100 journals or so (mostly poetry). Last year, I taught creative writing at Yale. So whoever would like to read some fight club stuff, just write to me. Or if you want a piece of the novel.

The working title is "necronaut" and it's sort of a collision between quantum leap and dante in a style crossed between standard american minimalism and italian magic realism. The central character is in hell for committing suicide and his punishment is to spend the last few seconds of every other suicide's life.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 'bodhisattva' a generalized buddhist thing as opposed to Japan-specific? Or are you meaning some specific offshoot of 'bodhisattva'?

unbelieverdjak, what branch of the military are you in?

i'll start a hemingway thread.

Navy. I'm accellerating my life (again- did 4 years, got out for two, came back in).

Feel free to call me Djak or Jack. Unbeliever is more of a title.

Hey Doctor, Sir, you seem to have forgotten the importance of two important magazines: Readers Digest (Humor in Uniform, I am Joe's prostate), and Chuck's endless talent at making homoerotic jokes via the mention of "Ellery Queen" mystery magazine.

And who here says I'm not helpful? Ha! Love y'all!

He also mentions National Geographic. We have, at least, through the DVD commentary, isolated exactly which Reader's Digests he was referring to. So we can actually obtain those texts.

It is fascinating how authors take all sorts of stuff from the real world and weave them together, picking this or that in the process. The question is how much is random and how much is meaningful?

HEY SLAG! I thought of something for your book! You should write about the age groups of Chuck fans. We seem to be mostly 16, 26-29, 31-37.

djak are you deployed?

Not yet. I'm transfering to Norfolk on the 1st (finishing up some training in Great Lakes, IL). The ship I'm being attatched to, last time I heard, is on its way back from the Gulf, so it will probably be a while before I go out.