End of Fight Club
At the end of Fight Club, when "Jack" is in the mental institute or whatever, and he says "I pulled the trigger. Liar."
What the hell is going on?
Why is he saying "Liar"?
Well, that would be the obvious answer, but Tyler's gone at this point, because of the medication he says he's receiving, and he says 'I pull the trigger and blow tyler out of my head'
"Liar" 
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maybe it means Tyler really pulled the trigger
maybe it means he never did pull the trigger and tyler won
maybe it means he's still lying to himself
take your pick, its just like that movie Clue
Waaaaaaa I'm so confused!
Maybe I need to talk to Chuck...
I always think it meant that he never completely rid himself of Tyler, and Tyler is just waiting to come back out. Then again, I could just be full of shit.
The end of the book he's in some sort of medical/mental institution, with several orderlies still recognizing him as Tyler ?
what was so confusing about the book's ending for people not to get that ?
I think I've worked it out now.
I think when he says 'Of course...I died', by 'I' he means 'Tyler', but the narrator isn't dead, so that's lie.
Either that, or he's coming to terms with the fact he is/isn't Tyler
Dunno if that makes sense to anyone?
Narrator isn't dead, he's in 'heaven' i.e a mental institute. 'God' is a psychiatrist which is pretty evident as the first line is "In my Father's house..." and earlier in the novel narrator says "...your father is your model for God. And sometimes you find your father in your career" or in this case in a mental institute and the description of the office of 'God'. It's pretty much an impossibility to know if Tyler is dead but the protagonist most certainly is not. The way he talks though is very similar to things said earlier which were described as "Tyler's words coming out of my mouth". Take what you will from that, I'm still unsure.
You can't teach God anything.
who thinks that the movie shouldve ended more like the book?
I really liked the ending of the movie.
It brought a nice bit of optimism to the end, where the narrator has Marla, his mind and a chance at living the life he wishes for at the start.
[QUOTE=supercanti;870513]who thinks that the movie shouldve ended more like the book?[/QUOTE]
i do.
Who thinks the movie should never have even been made?!
[QUOTE=Vendetta;897597]Who thinks the movie should never have even been made?![/QUOTE]
This site wouldn't have been made if it hadn't. So you might find yourself short on posts saying, "Me!".
I was kidding, King Ding.
[QUOTE=Vendetta;897836]I was kidding, King Ding.[/QUOTE]
I figured you were, but I wanted to say it anyway. Hope you don't mind.
I liked the Fight Club screenplay more than the book and the film more than the screenplay.
the problem is that after watching the movie, book is not so big fun. I've read it because i wanted to get all those differences between book and movie...
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[QUOTE=fluorogoat;906937]I liked the Fight Club screenplay more than the book and the film more than the screenplay.[/QUOTE]
whats the the big difference between the film and the screenplay?
[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;906963]whats the the big difference between the film and the screenplay?[/QUOTE]
One doesn't require reading... which is easier and takes less time, energy and thought.
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[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;906963]whats the the big difference between the film and the screenplay?[/QUOTE]
screenplay is only a text, movie have music, vison, and all that stuff.......
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Durrrrrrrrr
me never wooda guessed that as a difference
never never nevernever !
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[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;907135]Durrrrrrrrr
me never wooda guessed that as a difference
never never nevernever !
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I'm in the same boat, Mr. Shadov. I loved the movie - even the ending - but I'll be starting the book as soon as my better 1/2 is finished with it. (I just finished "Haunted" and am a few pages into "Diary"...)
I loved the scene in the movie where he's walking through his apartment, and you see all the IKEA pop-ups. Brilliant.
[QUOTE=nathaniel parker;906963]whats the the big difference between the film and the screenplay?[/QUOTE]
The biggest difference was Ed Norton and Brad Pitt's improvisation.
I like the book ending more that the one on movie.
But I have always love the line of the movie that says
"you met me in a strange moment of my life"(or something like that)
I was really surprised to find that it is not in the book
Here's a little irony. Because of Fight Club the film i wanted to be a special effects animator. Now, years later i am just that, but now i see that i''m living one of the things what jack is escaping from in the movie. I work in an office 9 to 5, and i have to get out of here soon..
it's not so bad that i'm going to beat myself up in front of my boss even though that would be genius:D
Sure the movie ending wasn't exactly identical to the book but noone should condemn the movie for it. The movie was awesome and was close how I percieved it in my mind's eye when I read the book.
for what its worth, chuck said he likes the film ending more than his ending on the dvd comentary
i'm still in the middle of survivor, might get to reading fight club later.
it took me a while to notice but through out the movie and the book "jack's" real name is never revealed which to me kind of puts him in the position as a space monkey. my theory is at the end you can tell he didnt die because like in the book they say in project mayhem when you die then you have a name however while "jack" is in the institute his true name is still not revealed and in fact people still call him tyler. this leads me to 2 conclusions: the first is more straight forward and that is jack is just in the hospital and people still confuse him for tyler, or the second is while hes getting all this rest and taking all this medication while hes unconscious tyler still has a hold on the world. the second i find more doubtful but in a way its wishful thinking
Movie better than book. Screen play equal with movie. First time I saw movie I fell asleep and hated it. Second time it awoke something in me that had long been dormant. Now everytime I'm having a bad day the one thing that can always get me going is some Fight Club. Definitely makes you look at your job differently though, so does Haunted, which is phenomenal by the way.
Narattor stoped it all when he shot himself. After all, sorry about it, he is mad. He is in a lunatic asylum. He still talks to himself and still being in some kind of hard situation. Marla sends letters to him. After all it doesn't matter because project mayhem still works, Because of him.
The ending in the movie is different- He got out of the whole thing. The movie is suppost to be more "cool", we are suppost to have "fun".
I have a question - unlike the movie, I am assuming that he never succeeds in blowing up the building in the book, right?
I mean, how else would he have gotten down from the roof.
He tells Marla "you have to get out of here, the buildings gonna blow any moment now" (paraphrase), and she replies saying "no it's not".
Which made me think - "how did she know?"
Which led me to wonder - "is she real too? or is she a 'projection', like Tyler?"
But having seen the movie, she is quite tangible and real.
But anyway, am I remembering wrong? Or does the building survive in the book?
Oh, and just a little side-comment - is that last scene in the movie just a wee bit chilling, post 9/11?
[QUOTE=Linden16;911500]I'm in the same boat, Mr. Shadov. I loved the movie - even the ending - but I'll be starting the book as soon as my better 1/2 is finished with it. (I just finished "Haunted" and am a few pages into "Diary"...)
I loved the scene in the movie where he's walking through his apartment, and you see all the IKEA pop-ups. Brilliant.[/QUOTE]
OK, so I finally finished the book - it was a paperback version with a new introduction by Chuck, where he writes about the impact of Fight Club. I liked the book, and am glad I finally got around to reading it. The ending was more satisfying than the movie, but I can understand why the screenplay was different. The big advantage for the movie was the fact that the boss wasn't killed in the movie - by having the main character kill some people in the book, I found it made him less likeable. The movie maybe did a better job of dealing with the split personality - it was a decent surprise in the movie when Tyler's true identity was revealed, while in the book, it's hinted at frequently.
Next stop: probaby Invisible Monsters - I tried starting it before, but I just didn't seem to be excited by the subject matter. Maybe, I'll pick up Choke again - especially now that a movie's being made...
I have to say, while I enjoyed the book's ending a LOT, I feel that the movie's ending was a perfect compromise of provocative and "happy ending".
Fight club the book vs. Fight Club the movie? In my opinion the book was the better of the two. One of the reasons is the lack of the "fat in the freezer" part in the movie. Reading about Marla dropping that bag of her mom's lipo'd fat and then falling in it was hilarious. Can you imagine being in that situation. The ending though was the main thing that made me choose the book over the movie. I've seen my fair share of movie that end in happily ever after. The whole holding hands and watching the buildings go down just didn't seem to fit with everything else. then again thats just my opinion



Maybe it wasn't him that said it. Maybe it was HIM?
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