Something very strange.....take a look.

I was flipping through a copy today. I didn't buy it, mainly because the only thing different from my version, other than the lack of cigarette burns, was the cover. The title page and everything else were the same. You got a lemon; get chuck to sign it and keep it in a safe place. It'll pay for your grand kid's college some day.

...I don't understand :confused:

I'm getting ready to get it exchanged...i think its a defective copy.

I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but...

Go here: [url]http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/books/fightclub/[/url] and scroll down. See the US trade picture? Doesn't look much like your book, does it?

I think what you have is exactly what Amazon is selling right now. Of course, I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone will let me know if I am.

That's just a printing error of some kind that made it past the guys at the printing press, the guys at the book warehouse and the guys at the bookstore to you, the end user.

In short, it's not supposed to look like that, and many, many people didn't notice that little fact.

[QUOTE=Spike]That's just a printing error of some kind that made it past the guys at the printing press, the guys at the book warehouse and the guys at the bookstore to you, the end user.

In short, it's not supposed to look like that, and many, many people didn't notice that little fact.[/QUOTE]

Which edition is it?

Well i dont see any of his books with just CHUCK on the front cover and an evident cut-off of his last name. And a skip from page 1 to 12. And the back cover is cut off too.

How do i check the edition?

Sounds--and sort of looks--like a "miscut" cover, some bindery defect where cover and/or pages are not cut square. Many books I own are this way, but it's usually (for me) on the right-side of the cover & vertical, going about a quarter inch into the cover & first few pages. These are usually found in library book sales and the like.

But maybe I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Well i dont see any of his books with just CHUCK on the front cover and an evident cut-off of his last name. And a skip from page 1 to 12. And the back cover is cut off too.

How do i check the edition?[/QUOTE]

If it were a first edition (which I don't believe it is), it would most likely say it inside the cover. Also, even if it were a first edition, it wouldn't be worth anything unless it were first printing. You can check that by looking at the number line on the publishing page. If it starts with a 1, then it is a first printing.

It's probably worth more because it's a dud.

You mean a defective book might be worth some good money?

In that case....who wants to buy a brand new ''dud'' of fight club?

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Hey guys, i just bought myself ''fight club'' trade paperback edition. And it seems that the front cover is cut off...and pages missing. Here im posting some pics. Even the page where it says....'"a novel by" chuck's name is cut off. Is that how they are all made?

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Also, my book goes from page 1 to page 12....missing pages? I dont mean it only has 12 pages, i mean after page 1 its page 12...and then continues normally[/QUOTE]
you got a bad printing is all. just like whatshisname said, try to get chuck to sign it, then keep it in good condition. you don't know what some boner will pay for it in a bunch of years. the reason being that it's unique and it's signed, as opposed to just being signed.

Hmmm......now you got me thinking. Not sure if i should get it exchanged now.

What about the page skip.....it goes from page 1...and then the written number on the other side of the same page is 12...not 2.

i think it's Jesus.

Lmao

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Hmmm......now you got me thinking. Not sure if i should get it exchanged now.

What about the page skip.....it goes from page 1...and then the written number on the other side of the same page is 12...not 2.[/QUOTE]

You'd be surprised how a misprint can cause something to increase in value. For example, "Pursuit of Happiness", an anthology in which Fight Club first appeared, can be found on Amazon for 30 bucks UNLESS you want the copy that has mistakes in it...then you have to search eBay and it's usually around 250 bucks. Makes a lot of sense, huh?

PS- Here is a picture of the inside cover of my 1/1 of Invisible Monsters. [url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/TheChinClique/DSC08622.jpg[/url] I circled the areas of importance - 1st edition, and then the number line at the bottom which reads 1234567890 means it is a 1st printing. That should help you identify which edition/printing you have.

Thanks for the info. Alright inside it doesnt say ''first edition'' and it doesnt say "1234567890" it skips the 1....and starts off "2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 "

And another page on the inside cut off too, shown here. [url]http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3518/09040622483gk.jpg[/url] Back cover is cut off too.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Thanks for the info. Alright inside it doesnt say ''first edition'' and it doesnt say "1234567890" it skips the 1....and starts off "2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 "

And another page on the inside cut off too, shown here. [url]http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3518/09040622483gk.jpg[/url] Back cover is cut off too.[/QUOTE]

You have a mutated second printing. I seriously think you could make a pretty penny off of that on eBay one day.

haha....mutated second printing. One of the inferior crack babies eh?

Just took another pic....inside front cover...rules of fightclub cut off.

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[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]haha....mutated second printing. One of the inferior crack babies eh?

Just took another pic....inside front cover...rules of fightclub cut off.

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The only difference is, that book is worth more than any inferior crack baby. Plus, selling babies on eBay is illegal.

LOL. Im gonna ask if anyone is interested in it on this site. Fight Club is Chuck's most popular book after all.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]LOL. Im gonna ask if anyone is interested in it on this site. Fight Club is Chuck's most popular book after all.[/QUOTE]

We're not the best crowd to advertise to. I think most of us are much too poor. eBay really is your best shot.

Already made a thread about it in one of the other sections. I'll give it a few days around here see if anyones interested in it. Then i'll give ebay a shot too.

COME AND GET IT WHILE ITS STILL AVAILABLE.....14 days left before the item return policy expires and i bring it back to the store.

lol

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]LOL. Im gonna ask if anyone is interested in it on this site. Fight Club is Chuck's most popular book after all.[/QUOTE]
ill give you $five for it.

[QUOTE=ralphthompsonxxx]Sounds--and sort of looks--like a "miscut" cover, some bindery defect where cover and/or pages are not cut square. Many books I own are this way, but it's usually (for me) on the right-side of the cover & vertical, going about a quarter inch into the cover & first few pages. These are usually found in library book sales and the like.
But maybe I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
No, you're pretty much dead on Jeremiah. That's a manufacturing error.

One of the book dealers I worked for bought a lot of "defective" new copies of books because they have to be discarded and supposedly recycled, but a lot of times publishers sell them to used dealers. Although Most defects are slight and can be worked around if you only care about reading the book. Sometimes a couple of pages are bound out of order, or like yours, cut wrong because the cutting press was misaligned. Anyway that's nothing too unusual, except it sucks that it's missing twelve pages.

[QUOTE=Dr.Jekyll&Mr.Hyde]No, you're pretty much dead on Jeremiah. That's a manufacturing error.
One of the book dealers I worked for bought a lot of "defective" new copies of books because they have to be discarded and supposedly recycled, but a lot of times publishers sell them to used dealers. Although Most defects are slight and can be worked around if you only care about reading the book. Sometimes a couple of pages are bound out of order, or like yours, cut wrong because the cutting press was misaligned. Anyway that's nothing too unusual, except it sucks that it's missing twelve pages.[/QUOTE]

Yep, and after I read this I wondered, wasn't that copy of [B]Visions of Gerard[/B] I gave you a miscut cover? I do believe it was. But yes, your days in the book dealer business makes it a given you've seen plenty of those bastards. And you're right: I never care if I get a miscut book, as they only affect (for the most part) the cover and a few pages into the thing. Collecting, of course, is a different thing, but still, I'll take a miscut-book over no-book any day... I had a million of those Kerouac books (I've only about 250 left).

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]LOL. Im gonna ask if anyone is interested in it on this site. Fight Club is Chuck's most popular book after all.[/QUOTE]

I'll make you an offer: I'll trade for it a signed first edition hardback of [B]Lullaby[/B] with its original dust jacket (with none of that "starts-with-a-two"-shit, this one is straight; some numbers inside a book when it's a First Edition start with 1 and others start with 10, as this one does--"10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1"--with "October 2002" and "First Edition" above the numbers.) It's an "Autographed Copy", signed by Palahniuk, and I've no idea any details of it other than it is what it is. I have as much proof as Ebay: I have my word. An even trade, & you pay for shipping.

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And, if not... I've got a Pee-Wee Herman Bobble Head I'll deal with. But not for a goddam cheap-o miscut book.

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Hey....thanks for the VERY interesting offer, but I just exchanged the book.
Wow i really didn't think anyone would be interested. I also just bought Invisible Monsters and Survivor, along with Fight Club that i got exchanged.
Trying to decide which one i should read next, I just finished reading Choke.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Hey....thanks for the VERY interesting offer, but I just exchanged the book.
Wow i really didn't think anyone would be interested. I also just bought Invisible Monsters and Survivor, along with Fight Club that i got exchanged.
Trying to decide which one i should read next, I just finished reading Choke.[/QUOTE]

i have the same cell phone as you......that shit went defective too....had any problems w/ yours?

No...not yet. I've had it for close to a year. Good phone for me so far.
Except one thing....the charger. That part that goes into the phone, it has a little plastic shit thing on it that you press to take it out after its done charging, and that broke on me....so i had to get it exchanged, had to fight with the company cuz they wanted me to pay for a new one. But the phone itself is good for me.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Hey....thanks for the VERY interesting offer, but I just exchanged the book.
Wow i really didn't think anyone would be interested. I also just bought Invisible Monsters and Survivor, along with Fight Club that i got exchanged.
Trying to decide which one i should read next, I just finished reading Choke.[/QUOTE]

Cool. Yeah, it wasn't like I was gonna make out like a bandit on that deal (least not with a Palahniuk book, signed or not, but that Bobble Head Herman is worth some serious shit). Just thought I'd make you the offer so's you'd end up with a better copy of a worse book; I mean, [B]Fight Club[/B] was an excellent novel, but I personally could do without [B]Lullaby[/B], and I've got three or four copies of [B]Fight Club[/B] already anyway. I am a collector to a degree, from vinyl albums to books of all kinds & conditions to guns & knives & drugs to goddam seriously obscure bullshit. Some I'd never part with (that bastard UbikRex sent me a personalized signed copy of [B]Less Than Zero[/B] last year and I'm not getting rid of that fucker except due to natural disaster, death, or violent seige... and thanks again, Chris), and some I'd entertain a barter on easily. I've paid many bills with old Stephen King collectibles. I've still two of the original 28,000 (or so) misprinted First Edition Hardbacks of [B]'Salem's Lot[/B], not to mention the Bachman originals... Wenknee sent me an excellent vinyl of William Burroughs & Kurt Cobain collaborating on "[I]The 'Priest' They Called Him[/I]", signed by both and sealed and protected and all, and that went well with the one I got back in '97 which was identical, though it wasn't in the best of possible conditions (the package, not the vinyl itself). I've [I]almost[/I] every Beatles album, some Stones, Floyd, the one Sex Pistols' album, AC/DC, even a shitload of Elvis my great-aunt gave me back in the 80s (including Elvis' first album which one day might pay for a memorial service after my planned suicide). So yeah. If anyone out there ever wants to barter, buy, beg, whatever, let me know. A lot of this shit I have I'll fucking give away, for the most part. Take care, man.

OH. And I'd recommend [B]Survivor[/B]. It's my favorite, I suppose, and though the middle is decidedly slow, stick with it. But [B]Invisible Monsters[/B]... could've been worse. It could've been [B]Lullaby[/B] or [B]Haunted[/B] (good as individual stories but the forced connection ruined it for me). But I'm an oddity, I suppose: I kind of liked [B]Diary[/B]...

Anyone got any good serial killer art...?

Thanks for the info. Wow sounds like you got yourself a pretty big collection of....stuff.
I'll start reading Survivor soon. So you didnt like Invisible Monsters?

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Thanks for the info. Wow sounds like you got yourself a pretty big collection of....stuff.
I'll start reading Survivor soon. So you didnt like Invisible Monsters?[/QUOTE]

Yep, "stuff"; that's right. Nothing but, man.

As far as Palahniuk goes, I'm not the top cheerleader on the pyramid, and I'm not really even in the gym, or on the campus, but several miles away at a campsite in the woods, high on mushrooms & hash. Or opium. And firing illegal guns into the darkness. But for me, [B]Invisible Monsters[/B] was decent. In its own way, it reads faster than [B]Survivor[/B], but it's not... there's... I don't know, something about it left me kind of disappointed, since it was a really interesting idea and story that fell kind of dead by the end. But like I say, I'm not the best critic, either way, for or against Palahniuk. But it's a good book. His first four ([B]FC[/B], [B]Choke[/B], [B]Survivor[/B], & [B]Invisible Monsters[/B]) are not bad at all, just not always as satisfying as I expected. [B]Choke[/B] was hilarious and full of urban legends passed off as if they're true; [B]Survivor[/B] was layered with many more meanings than are handed to the reader on a platter, takes some thinking; [B]Invisible Monsters[/B] was a good idea, and seemingly a good representation of a first book (he wrote it before the others but couldn't get it published, I'm sure you know...); and [B]Fight Club[/B] was, I'd say, an excellent horror novel, and I've always seen it as such (though it was a decent movie--almost better in ways than the book--it's still a better book, and the ending is better, no matter what Palahniuk or Fincher think of the film). [B]Lullaby[/B] & [B]Haunted[/B] aren't worth my time, but oddly, I liked [B]Diary[/B], though it was an obvious attempt to write a "Stephen King-esque" book, something I think Bret E. Ellis did AMAZINGLY well--and [I]much much better[/I]--with [B]Lunar Park[/B].

But all that's only [I]my[/I] opinion.

So its the first 4 books that are part of the better bunch of Chuck's books? Glad to hear that...that's the 4 i own, only got through Choke so far...and yes it was hilarious. Especially how that part about the naked fat man having chestnuts shoved up his ass by a monkey just came out of nowhere, i actually started laughing pretty hard when i read that.

I decided to get into Palahniuk's books because Fight Club has been one of my favourite movies for a while now, so I decided to give the author of it a try. I'm glad i picked Choke as his first book to read because I thought it was a good book, and really funny. So gonna give his next 3 a try...starting with Survivor.

Another book i wanna pick up is American Psycho....I've only seen the movie and im a fan of that. I've heard the book is really good.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]So its the first 4 books that are part of the better bunch of Chuck's books? Glad to hear that...that's the 4 i own, only got through Choke so far...and yes it was hilarious. Especially how that part about the naked fat man having chestnuts shoved up his ass by a monkey just came out of nowhere, i actually started laughing pretty hard when i read that.

I decided to get into Palahniuk's books because Fight Club has been one of my favourite movies for a while now, so I decided to give the author of it a try. I'm glad i picked Choke as his first book to read because I thought it was a good book, and really funny. So gonna give his next 3 a try...starting with Survivor.[/QUOTE]

Good deal. So you've not read [B]Fight Club[/B]...? Glad I didn't give away the end.

[QUOTE=Fallen_Angel]Another book i wanna pick up is American Psycho....I've only seen the movie and im a fan of that. I've heard the book is really good.[/QUOTE]

Ooooh. I'm terribly opinionated on [B]American Psycho[/B], and Ellis. And I do this to everyone: try to read [B]Less Than Zero[/B] and [B]The Rules of Attraction[/B] first. They're both short, they both read fast, and they're both better than their respective movies (though [B]ROA[/B] is a pretty decent adaptation). Ellis wrote [B]LTZ[/B] as a senior in high school, & published it as he was entering college. In college he wrote [B]ROA[/B], & it was published as he graduated. Now, imagine being a young guy that just so happened to break through publishing at such an early age, complete with critical acclaim (especially with [B]LTZ[/B] though [B]ROA[/B] is more of an involved, well-written, multi-POV story). Imagine the celebrity. Imagine the pressure for a third novel. Imagine it's the mid-to-late 80s & you're barely 24 & you're partying in NYC all the time and hanging with Wall Street yuppies and other kids your age with more money than they ever could properly spend, & imagine the cocaine flowing like Cristal and the Cristal being inhaled like cocaine, and then imagine trying to decide [I]how[/I] to write about this scene you're caught up in. That's the seeds of [B]American Psycho[/B]. The books he wrote after--[B]The Informers[/B] (published after but written at the same time as [B]LTZ[/B], short stories) and [B]Glamorama[/B]--are decent in their own way, and every book of Ellis' connects with prior novels. And then you get to [B]Lunar Park[/B], where it is all brought full-circle.

Eh, but yeah, [B]American Psycho[/B] is great and can be read alone. Just know that the leap Ellis made from his first two to that novel is astronomical... and unintentionally amazing. Ellis himself knew not what he was writing, even. And no matter how tedious the book seems, don't skip a line, or [I]something[/I] will pass you by--it's as if Ellis does this to purposely weed-out the people not allowing the narrator their FULL attention. And the tedium IS one of the biggest points: the book is nothing but Patrick Bateman's mind and how it views the world around it. The narrator is unreliable. And it's an accomplishment in itself that Ellis can inhabit a character/narrator's mind so fully.

The movie was, to me, only good because I'd read the book. It did alter the voice in my head as far as Bateman goes; all I can hear now when reading it is Christian Bale's monotone. I think, if fully read, you'd dig it. Most people I've known though wanted to try it, but they could never make it. And I'll admit, it's not really a book for just anyone.

Yeah I'll be sure to pick it up after im done with the Palahniuk books (Survivor, Invisible Monsters, Fight Club)

And no, I've only seen the film version of FC...and i hear the ending in the book is different, and better. So im looking forward to that.

So i'll look into those Ellis books after im done with that. Thanks for giving me the other titles :You_Rock_

"Rock and roll."

[QUOTE=ralphthompsonxxx]Yep, "stuff"; that's right. Nothing but, man.

As far as Palahniuk goes, I'm not the top cheerleader on the pyramid, and I'm not really even in the gym, or on the campus, but several miles away at a campsite in the woods, high on mushrooms & hash. Or opium. And firing illegal guns into the darkness. But for me, [B]Invisible Monsters[/B] was decent. In its own way, it reads faster than [B]Survivor[/B], but it's not... there's... I don't know, something about it left me kind of disappointed, since it was a really interesting idea and story that fell kind of dead by the end. But like I say, I'm not the best critic, either way, for or against Palahniuk. But it's a good book. His first four ([B]FC[/B], [B]Choke[/B], [B]Survivor[/B], & [B]Invisible Monsters[/B]) are not bad at all, just not always as satisfying as I expected. [B]Choke[/B] was hilarious and full of urban legends passed off as if they're true; [B]Survivor[/B] was layered with many more meanings than are handed to the reader on a platter, takes some thinking; [B]Invisible Monsters[/B] was a good idea, and seemingly a good representation of a first book (he wrote it before the others but couldn't get it published, I'm sure you know...); and [B]Fight Club[/B] was, I'd say, an excellent horror novel, and I've always seen it as such (though it was a decent movie--almost better in ways than the book--it's still a better book, and the ending is better, no matter what Palahniuk or Fincher think of the film). [B]Lullaby[/B] & [B]Haunted[/B] aren't worth my time, but oddly, I liked [B]Diary[/B], though it was an obvious attempt to write a "Stephen King-esque" book, something I think Bret E. Ellis did AMAZINGLY well--and [I]much much better[/I]--with [B]Lunar Park[/B].

But all that's only [I]my[/I] opinion.[/QUOTE]
I've only read Lullaby and Survivor from Chuck, and a quarter of Fight club. I found Survivor to be pretty good while I found Lullaby to be lackluster at best.
Fight Club, from what I've gotten to check out, seems quite interesting.

And Lunar Park is an AMAZING novel. I've neevr felt like that at the end of a book before.
I don't know if I enjoy it more than American Psycho, which is still the best novel I've ever read, but I think it could be fairly close.

I'm also trying to find the older editions of The Rules of Attraction - the black and white grainy photo. I only have the lame movie tie-in.

[QUOTE=benjamin_anderson]And Lunar Park is an AMAZING novel. I've neevr felt like that at the end of a book before.
I don't know if I enjoy it more than American Psycho, which is still the best novel I've ever read, but I think it could be fairly close.

I'm also trying to find the older editions of The Rules of Attraction - the black and white grainy photo. I only have the lame movie tie-in.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with the statements on [B]Lunar Park[/B] and [B]American Psycho[/B]. [B]AP[/B] is one of the best books published in that past 20 years.

As far as the copy of [B][URL=http://i2.tinypic.com/vcudmh.jpg]The Rules of Attraction[/B][/URL] you're looking for, is this it...?

I've always found them easy to come by, so if you're interested, we can make a nice cheap deal...

[QUOTE=ralphthompsonxxx]Yep, and after I read this I wondered, wasn't that copy of [B]Visions of Gerard[/B] I gave you a miscut cover? I do believe it was. But yes, your days in the book dealer business makes it a given you've seen plenty of those bastards. And you're right: I never care if I get a miscut book, as they only affect (for the most part) the cover and a few pages into the thing. Collecting, of course, is a different thing, but still, I'll take a miscut-book over no-book any day... I had a million of those Kerouac books (I've only about 250 left). :D[/QUOTE]
Man i lent that to someone two months ago and the first thing i said was, "Don't read it on the toilet!" and "i want it back!" or this guy will come after ya:
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