Writers who reject reading

wow, he even topped my last post.
my day is turing out pretty well.

HAHAAAAAAAA----
Wyre - I'm pissin my fuckin chair over here hahahahaha - - that ROCKS.

Actually how about this:
Walt Whitman was, if you remember, a gay man, so he just may have enjoyed stimulating his anus with a drumstick or phallus-- he was really the proto-GG... maybe his leaves of grass were a metaphor - he could really have meant assbeads or something or a buttplug.

or perhaps he actually had depth to his thinking process, instead of going on halucinogenic thought induced by excessive drug use, and repeated head injuries.

Now I'm picturing Whitman soiling himself and I can't get anything done over here LOL
Thanks for the humor- Note to self - - - Believe Nothing and Get Back to Work! hahahaha

lowlife, as was asked earlier, what corporation do you work for?

i thought he had said somewhere in this thread where he worked. found it for ya' insom, just in case you are still interested...
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bdw - I work for a mortgage company and it's not very pleasant, I'm afraid.[/QUOTE]

and it sucks...

and by sucks I mean it's awful... not sucks as in a Tijuana prostitute....

so why aren't you, like in a poorly lit basement shooting heroin and becoming the next great beat poet then?

Okay, most of my friends are jobless alcoholics who live in thrashed vomit-scented apartments with ten other people. All they do is sit around all day, drink beer, bum cigarettes from each other and watch movies.

See, I [i]like[/i] punk rock. I can empathize with the cheerful brand of nihilism where you reject goals and authority and cram ten other violent alcoholics into a room so they can fuck each others' girlfriends and resent each other for it.

It's just that it gets boring, that's all.

Anyone can do "extreme" - it takes a much more concentrated effort to do something different and give it real, lasting value, poignant social commentary, experiences readers/viewers can relate to, whatever. The reason Fight Club worked is because there's a society full of people dragging themselves to unfulfilling jobs and not really getting what they want out of life, not to mention every other human on the planet that's going through an identity crisis at some level. At least thats how I see it.

If you want to do extreme, you could just make a movie where topless hash-smoking porn stars drive exploding racecars into terrorists that are constructing a huge bomb out of puppies, kittens and small children they've fed through a wood chipper, in an attempt to hold every former US President for enough ransom money to build a time machine to go back and feed Jesus a dozen rounds of Rohypnol-laced margaritas so they can give him a sex change.

Maybe you can get Jerry Bruckheimer to direct the movie, but it still won't be art.

sad thing is, guess how many people would pay to see that movie as a piece of artwork? it would be the big "blockbuster" of next summer.

Insom : well, my apartment is a bit shabby. I work 70 hours a week and I have shit to show for it. Weekdays it's a shit-ass mortgage company, weekends unloading trucks at a hospital warehouse... not very glamorous, I'm afraid. Not very fulfilling, I"m afraid.
Spike : I'm hearing you bro. I think "extreme" can mean alot of things to alot of people, though. 'extreme' doesn't always have to necessarily follow the exact course of the prophet GG. It can be many things- even subtle ones - so long as you are breaking something down somewhere, that's the real measure. And I like your movie idea- although I really don;t like film, I'd see that!
Wyre : We'd have to meet up and go to that movie of Spike's. Maybe we could defecate in our hands and throw it at the screen in tribute to his genius! That would be the highest compliment EVER! Oh yeah- and fuck Walt Whitman because he never took a dump during a poetry reading hahahaha

i didn't mean i would go to it.

I had this thought earlier this morning: when we begin to act in as radical a manner as possible, they always try to marginalize us. They write us off as a 'freak show' and turn our agency into a laughingstock. But we do have agency. And that frightens the establishment. Their derision is the only way they have of dealing with the Revolution.

congratulations on your thought of the day.
you speak in "we" and "they". did it ever occur to you that maybe you're thinking only for yourself there pal?
and what "agency" are you talking about? the people who think that the most "radical" of actions is the only way to resolve anything. you see, it's the opposite, the more reasonable you appear, the more "they" will reason with you.

Man, you are a pain in the ass hahahahahaaa

i'd say i'm sorry, but i'm not.

Man. You're OK in my book but a pain in the ass either way hahahaaaa

Tell that Nolife Crud cunt to shit or get off the pot. Commit suicide or trash a bank or kill somebody or become a sociopathic rocker throwing his shit at fools before ODing.

But fuck this dilettante webshite bullshit.

seriously. next he's going to say he lives "[I]near[/I] the projects."

proto and insomnio - - shut up you TOOLS...

lowlife - - shut up you mislead hypocritical bastard...

I'm led by none bro... remember I'm trying to fight off three decades of authority figures and patterns of obedience....
And I'm not really a hypocrite... since none of it means a damned thing anyways it just doesn't jive, ya dig?

I think people need aN ANAL revolution, a COLONIC apocalypse or even RECTAL chaos. People just need to learn, once again, how to grow up.

My thoughts on this without reading past the third post...

Personally I think its important to read everythning and anything that interests you. Especially if you are developing your own style.

Same as you live yor life and within the personality you have as an individual you carry with you all the influences that make you unique is the way you should take in and absorb not only what you like but whatever is out there to read.

I do it objectively, despite my laziness for reading in the first place. I do it for self endulgence and for inspiration as well as researching what others are writing so that I wont get caught repeating thoughts others may have gotten to first. As unlikely as it seems, many of the ideas I was throwing around years ago, I've seen others make money from.

In a society where millions of people are constantly thinking of things to get them that big deal, there are bound to be people with the same ideas and it comes down to the luck of the draw who gets over the finish line first.

Also, consider your frustration when you drop reading for a year and you finish a project only to find three other writers have published works that are similar in some innocent way to three different parts of your work?

Then what?

You've got this original voice you've honed on a desert island and you're only forced to find a different way to have to say things now because others happened to say them similarly first.

Then you'll feel unoriginal because youre forced to contrive new ways of saying things instead of having had them develop naturally.

If you had endulged open mindedly in that time instead of closing yourself off, you would have developed your own voice while naturally seperating yourself from others simultaniously. Perhaps by doing so even been forced to develop a superior style as a result?

But thats just my thinking. Paranoid and delusional to the point of psychosis.

Well, according to Leslie "I just died" Fiedler, Raymond Carver has replaced Ernest Hemingway in the critical estab for the best writer who "Said how it feels by saying very little" literary coterie. So, saying "Fuck Hemingway" isn't exactly a revolutionary statement anymore. Despite that, anyone who says it reveals a lot about themselves in the process.

Personally, I think it can work both ways — read a lot, don't read a lot. It all comes down to one thing: whether or not you suck. (At writing, I mean)

One more thing: Hemingway gets credit in my book for the fact that he killed himself. You've gotta admire someone who was both a drunk and suicide.