question about Chuck

i would say neither. i don't think that he pulled the rug from everything that humanity stands for or that some heavenly force was guiding him to write the book. i believe he merely wanted to write a book that commented on the materialistic nature of our society and about people's unsatistaction with their lives. but, only chuck knows why he wrote the book and all we can do is speculate. i don't think that some heavenly force was causing him to write the book because i don't personally believe in fate or the existence of a higher power.in addition, i don't really know what humanity stands for or if we can even generalize as to what that means.

[QUOTE=ally]i would say neither. i don't think that he pulled the rug from everything that humanity stands for or that some heavenly force was guiding him to write the book. i believe he merely wanted to write a book that commented on the materialistic nature of our society and about people's unsatistaction with their lives. but, only chuck knows why he wrote the book and all we can do is speculate. i don't think that some heavenly force was causing him to write the book because i don't personally believe in fate or the existence of a higher power.in addition, i don't really know what humanity stands for or if we can even generalize as to what that means.[/QUOTE]

obviously you are in the same boat that not even “Krishna or any Christian, Moslem or Jewish gods can imagine.”
Other than the same story physics gives us, there is nothing that I have ever read that screams the message of non-duality as does the movie Fight Club.

The casual viewer might understand that Tyler Durden is the hallucination of the Narrator. But the message of the movie that goes beyond any gods and religions is that not only is Durden a hallucination but so is everything else, LIFE.
This is PURE ADVAITA. And the movie does a better job hitting us over the head with this non-duality than anything I have ever read, including all the scriptures, Hindu or otherwise.
To put is simply:
Years ago tears of Joy made me get the Gita’s simple message.
When I saw the movie Fight Club I literally cried with these EXACT same tears of Joy that literally nothing in the universe can touch or fathom.

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]obviously you are in the same boat that not even “Krishna or any Christian, Moslem or Jewish gods can imagine.”
Other than the same story physics gives us, there is nothing that I have ever read that screams the message of non-duality as does the movie Fight Club.

The casual viewer might understand that Tyler Durden is the hallucination of the Narrator. But the message of the movie that goes beyond any gods and religions is that not only is Durden a hallucination but so is everything else, LIFE.
This is PURE ADVAITA. And the movie does a better job hitting us over the head with this non-duality than anything I have ever read, including all the scriptures, Hindu or otherwise.
To put is simply:
Years ago tears of Joy made me get the Gita’s simple message.
When I saw the movie Fight Club I literally cried with these EXACT same tears of Joy that literally nothing in the universe can touch or fathom.[/QUOTE]

physics screams the message of non duality?? all that i've learned so far is that waves act like sine waves and that force equals mass times acceleration. but if you say physics screams the message of non duality, i guess it does.

[QUOTE=ally]physics screams the message of non duality?? all that i've learned so far is that waves act like sine waves and that force equals mass times acceleration. but if you say physics screams the message of non duality, i guess it does.[/QUOTE]

Physics tells us that the observer determines the observations. This can only mean one thing: the observer is hallucinating.

The Supreme Science, which is the "study of thoughts" ( that gave us the monism of Advaita), goes one step further: the observer determines the observations because the observer is the observations -- exactly like a dream, fiction, thoughts.

:umbrella: :sly: :rambo: [QUOTE=Gene Polotas]Physics tells us that the observer determines the observations. This can only mean one thing: the observer is hallucinating.

The Supreme Science, which is the "study of thoughts" ( that gave us the monism of Advaita), goes one step further: the observer determines the observations because the observer is the observations -- exactly like a dream, fiction, thoughts.[/QUOTE]
wow! i did not know that. i should learn that for my midterm on monday
:You_Rock_ i like using all the cute faces

I thought this was going to be a "Is Chuck gay" type of thread.... its not, but its worse.

I always thought that [i]Fight Club[/i] was an update of Katherine Brush's 1927 short story [i]Night Club[/i], where a bored, dissatisfied young woman plagued by severe insomnia opens up a bar featuring live entertainment, which ends up being the home to a bunch of soap-making anarchists.

[QUOTE=ally]physics screams the message of non duality?? all that i've learned so far is that waves act like sine waves and that force equals mass times acceleration. but if you say physics screams the message of non duality, i guess it does.[/QUOTE]
Pick up a copy of 'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot.

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]Question:
When Chuck Palahniuk was writing his Fight Club, was he aware that it would literally pull the proverbial rug out from under all the scriptures, and religions and gods, and all their devils and demons … in fact everything that humanity stands for?

Or did Consciousness, Atman, Heaven itself, just use him as a cosmic coincidence to write a modern Bhagavad Gita, called Fight Club, that goes far beyond anything that even Krishna or any Christian, Moslem or Jewish gods can imagine?[/QUOTE]

yes....he was.

[QUOTE=JKuhlmann]yes....he was.[/QUOTE]

If Krishna and the Christian, Moslem and Jewish gods could not imagine what Chuck was writing with the Fight Club, not even in their wildest dreams, then I assure you Chuck did not know what he was writing, nor will he ever Realize what he was writing, not even in his wildest dreams.
This “beyond our wildest dreams” is the Supreme Comedy called mind and its brain-body, life.

Dude, didn't you already make this thread?

No need to try to reason with that guy, he runs 16 (!) blogs about the same subject.
Just check the link in his profile.

[QUOTE=mikandrewz]Dude, didn't you already make this thread?[/QUOTE]

I cannot teach you to read because there is no “me” let alone a “you.”

BUT one thread is about the movie called Fight Club and the other thread is totally different because it is about the author, Chuck, who thinks he thinks he wrote the Fight Club when there is no thinking, nor writing, because they are just thoughts, words.

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]If Krishna and the Christian, Moslem and Jewish gods could not imagine what Chuck was writing with the Fight Club, not even in their wildest dreams, then I assure you Chuck did not know what he was writing, nor will he ever Realize what he was writing, not even in his wildest dreams.
This “beyond our wildest dreams” is the Supreme Comedy called mind and its brain-body, life.[/QUOTE]

then why'd you ask.......twice apparently?

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]Question:
When Chuck Palahniuk was writing his Fight Club, was he aware that it would literally pull the proverbial rug out from under all the scriptures, and religions and gods, and all their devils and demons … in fact everything that humanity stands for?

Or did Consciousness, Atman, Heaven itself, just use him as a cosmic coincidence to write a modern Bhagavad Gita, called Fight Club, that goes far beyond anything that even Krishna or any Christian, Moslem or Jewish gods can imagine?[/QUOTE]
To answer that question you'd have to ask the man himself. I must admit your thread topics steer into the same vein of thought with no room for grease, meaning most won't buy propaganda here.

"When Chuck Palahniuk was writing his Fight Club, was he aware...."

I assume he was, but that's conjecture. You can do two of two things. Write chuck a letter and wait for THE window (when he accepts fan mail).

Or do some hunting in these threads and read some of chuck's interviews. I think you'll find the bulk of your answers. Chuck has always been open about his intentions on certain works through interviews, essays, and online classes. So please don't create threads that revolve around a soapbox that we can't argue because we are all a bunch of non-thinking bastards who haven't created a thing.
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I thought that was a PS2 in the avatar but really it's some special book. I thought it was odd someone with a Playstation 2 with holy light around it avatar would be pushing this I am nothing religion stuff.

Chuck is Atman and we are all just pigments of his machinations.

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]Question:
When Chuck Palahniuk was writing his Fight Club, was he aware that it would literally pull the proverbial rug out from under all the scriptures, and religions and gods, and all their devils and demons … in fact everything that humanity stands for?

Or did Consciousness, Atman, Heaven itself, just use him as a cosmic coincidence to write a modern Bhagavad Gita, called Fight Club, that goes far beyond anything that even Krishna or any Christian, Moslem or Jewish gods can imagine?[/QUOTE]

Question for you: Why did Chuck write [I]Haunted[/I]?

[QUOTE=mirka]Question for you: Why did Chuck write [I]Haunted[/I]?[/QUOTE]

a penguin told him to.

[QUOTE=JKuhlmann]a penguin told him to.[/QUOTE]
...and the penguin was called Vishnu.

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]I cannot teach you to read because there is no “me” let alone a “you.”

BUT one thread is about the movie called Fight Club and the other thread is totally different because it is about the author, Chuck, who thinks he thinks he wrote the Fight Club when there is no thinking, nor writing, because they are just thoughts, words.[/QUOTE]
What ever this guy is on, I want a ton of.

In my mind this guy's voice has a bit of a deep brother tone.......you know like Morgan Freeman or James Earl Jones.

[QUOTE=MinervaG2]In my mind this guy's voice has a bit of a deep brother tone.......you know like Morgan Freeman or James Earl Jones.[/QUOTE]
That's funny, I was picturing something more like this...
[IMG]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:nIGdvZf2O5yudM:www.picturesoffellowship.com/01ship128.jpg[/IMG]
I am the piece of Heaven Itself!

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]there is no thinking, nor writing, because they are just thoughts, words.[/QUOTE]
this just blew my mind !

[QUOTE=Gene Polotas]I cannot teach you to read because there is no “me” let alone a “you.”

BUT one thread is about the movie called Fight Club and the other thread is totally different because it is about the author, Chuck, who thinks he thinks he wrote the Fight Club when there is no thinking, nor writing, because they are just thoughts, words.[/QUOTE]

No you're just wrong, it's the same basic subject. Everything that you are saying in this thread was covered in the first thread.

[QUOTE=mikandrewz]No you're just wrong, it's the same basic subject. Everything that you are saying in this thread was covered in the first thread.[/QUOTE]

Well then just delete this tread and then KILL ME, ban me, because I think the Fight Club and this whole "cult" is the Supreme Comedy.

I should know because I AM Tyler Durden.

The Fight Club is the Supreme Comedy not because I’m Tyler Durden but because you are The Narrator.
The Fight Club is my hallucination, and so is its author.
The Fight Club is the Supreme Comedy because in this hallucination I beat the living shit out of you, the Narrator, to convince you that you are real because you have the bleeding-body and broken-bones to prove it.

And this Comedy is Supreme because not only does your bleeding-body and broken-bones convince you that you must be real but they also convince you that I, Tyler Durden, must be real when both you and I -- and the movie and its author -- is just my hallucination.

And if my bumps and bruises give me any doubts to my hallucination then I just relax into thoughtless-Silence to be Heaven it-SELF that needs hallucinations about cults like it needs bleeding-bodies and broken-bones.

And the Laughter of this Supreme Comedy makes this hallucination of mine so obvious that it makes all these words into the Supreme Truth because in hallucinations there is no doer, there is no other, not even a Tyler, or his author, that can agree or disagree.

-- Tyler

[COLOR=Red]Tyler![/COLOR] There is no reason to ban, delete or kill you. You've given your opinion, which is what we do here, but it's your opinion again and again with a broken bleeding neck. You have tunnel vision Mister Tyler. I understand, and all the rest that have taking the time to read your posts understand what your saying, so advance the argument with some points of reference or kill it. I happen to like dead horses and I get annoyed and pissed when they're beaten.

I haven't read all of Chuck's interviews or anything, but no, I don't think his message was meant to cover anything beyond humanity. And I'm afraid I don't understand how he could pull the rug out from under a religion or a God, since those things are based on the faith of their followers. Nor do I think he was offering us some breakthrough theory in metaphysics, if that's what you're saying. What are you saying exacty, Gene?

[QUOTE=Hingdai]I haven't read all of Chuck's interviews or anything, but no, I don't think his message was meant to cover anything beyond humanity. And I'm afraid I don't understand how he could pull the rug out from under a religion or a God, since those things are based on the faith of their followers. Nor do I think he was offering us some breakthrough theory in metaphysics, if that's what you're saying. [COLOR=Orange]What are you saying [/COLOR]exacty, Gene?[/QUOTE]
dudududee! DON't get him started! All you have to do is read his posts. if I hear about the supreme comedy once more i'll.....:rocketwho

Heh, my bad. Maybe I should just read this Gita book first.
So, i'm new, "The Cult" isn't meant to be taken literally is it? Just, um. Just a question.

[QUOTE=Hingdai]Heh, my bad. Maybe I should just read this Gita book first.
So, i'm new, "The Cult" isn't meant to be taken literally is it? Just, um. Just a question.[/QUOTE]
Whatcha mean? yeah, it's a cult... Send me your arm and I'll brand one of the following depending on my mood.

The fart has no farter, it is just Farting Itself.

he who smelt it is not he who dealt it
he is only the smeller !

[QUOTE=karbunkle]he who smelt it is not he who dealt it
he is only the smeller ![/QUOTE]
You haven't been paying attention. There isn't a smeller neither. That is the Supreme Comedy!

Dreamt about this thread and this popped into my head.

[SIZE=4][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR=Orange]"There is NO Danna only Zoll."[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

out of all the nonsense in this thread, and something [i][b]I[/b][/i] said gets deleted?

[QUOTE=karbunkle]out of all the nonsense in this thread, and something [i][b]I[/b][/i] said gets deleted?[/QUOTE]
man, chill out, but all you said was "fart jokes are always the funniest," and meat just fed into more farting. I want to keep the discussion, at some level, on track, we have plenty of places to talk about farting and such. And you can't fart if Tyler doesn't imagine you to.