Maybe this is jumping the gun a bit, but...

daniel, not to be rude, but you shouldn't start this post. it doesn't matter who his man is, that's just more personal information that i'm sure Chuck doesn't want anybody to konw.
i think you'll get the same reply from everybody else in here.

oh please. the man loves his fans, I personally watched him correct someone from telling fans they could only get one book signed and despite his own admition to the oppressive task of signing books, he took the time to sign everyones books and still made the dedictaions people were told they couldnt get.

those kinds of displays of generosity on his part are commonplace I'm sure, and it goes without saying that in time, when he feels comfortable (hence the title "this may be jumping the gun a bit..."), and the acceptance of his lifestyle from his fans filters through, he'll be more at ease and feel better about sharing his personal views on life and love...

or not?

and thats fine too.

my sentiments are merely expressing an interest.

If you were someone associated with Chuck personally, or the site directly, perhaps your telling me what I should or should not say could hold more water, but as for you feigning the knowledge of what Chuck wants and doesnt want everyone to know... as well as you speaking for the rest of the site (almighty vessel of knowledge that you are) it does come off rude and condescending in the most false and patronizing way possible. (maybe youre just pissed you didnt say it first)

FYI, when you care about someone, be it personally or from a respectable distance as is the case with an author you admire, IT DOES matter who they love, who that person is, and I'M SURE, it would make Chuck feel good that a fan would show interest whether he ever intends to share anything personal or not.

Save the "I must protect Chuck" speil for your personal imaginings, you miss the point of what I was saying entirely because of that "all knowing" attitude.

I don't understand the obsession. I like his writing. I like hearing about his writing. I like hearing about interaction with fans and readings and such.

Who cares what he does on his personal time?

i agree with you completely alene. the only interest i have in the new news is the new dynamic that could be read into his books. i think that, like dreams, all the characters in a book are different aspects of the author. don't get me wrong, i'm not going to seek out some "gay theme" in his books, but inerpersonal relationships (ie. the most blatent- tyler/jack relationship) among the characters might have some influence or additional meaning.

DanielDamien...why do you care? It doesn't affect you AT ALL. He doesn't want to talk about his personal life. Period. Get off the subject. Why don't you just wait for his next book and love it. Period. His friends and who he hangs out with obviously affect his writing, but it doesn't matter to you. Geez...just leave the guy alone.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didnt know this thread directly connected to the electrodes attached to his (and apparently your) nipples.. my sincerest apologies and I am eternally grateful to PSU for the redirection he or she has provided to my life!

Fuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuu.

Hmm, let me see now... If the man DIDNT want to talk abotu his personal life, my my my, how unfortunate was it that he tripped, fell down the stairs, his cell phone flipped open as he tumbled and dialed the line to the audio blogs.. then how unfortunate that he, in his descent down the stairs, tumbling and tumbling downward, he happened to tell all the listeners how he has been with a man for 11 years?!?@!#?@$#@

Man! what an unfortunate happenstance isnt it!?

But of course, PSU, youre right, I shouldnt care that a favorite author is happy with someone in his life.

Youre absolutely right, I shouldnt care the man sounded so distressed in the initial message and maybe knowing people who admire his work just care about him being happy, being more important wouldnt matter to the guy...

yeah, youre right.

Youre a dick.

But youre right.

NOT.

daniel, relax.
chuck alluded to the fact that he didn't necessarily [i]want[/i] to tell his fans, but actually felt it was necessary more than anything else. for that reason, and for the reason that chuck has said he doesn't want his life to be the center of attention, he wants his work to be the center of attention.
let me just ask you this...
how many other writers do you check up on to see if their personal lives are making them happy?

buddy, the cat's out of the bag, when he said he was married, whenever that was, I thought, cool, good for him, did I do any checking up on him then? No. Now that we find out (via Chuck's own voice) that its not the case, but there was so much tension in this whole revelation, I thought again, good, but since its been such a big freakin secret, I would love to hear more about it. Since its something I personally didnt foresee, again, would love to know more.

Thats it.

I commented, and responded to one, two, and now three people who incessantly need to correct me in feeling how I damn well please. Even if I dissagree with people, at least I have the decency to NEVER tell them how they should feel. I express my own feelings, and leave others be. I'm suprised at that kind of response from people who have the same interest (yes, you do) as I do.

But I guess idiots come in all shapes and sizes.

I think the one who needs to relax is you, and them.

Think about it.

And think about how youre expressing yourself and how its impeding on my right to say and feel how I again, damn well please to.

Its amazing to me that even here there are idiots who can take the words right before their eyes and twist them into what they need to see in order to make assenine comments like... How many other authors do I check up on their personal lives?

I didnt ask for an audio blog, I didnt ask him anything when he came to NY and signed a million books. I thanked him and commented on how admirable his generous nature was to deal with all that attention, thats it. I saw many other people chewing his ear off in lots more time than it took to sign a book. As for myself, two sig's and a shake, and I'm out.

So please people, get off my back.

If you were SOOOOOO uninterested yourselves, how was it you ended up way deep inside the caverns of this truly sickeningly obsessive site and woah there, you must have an account like I do because you need one to be able to make a comment dont you?

Hey, lets go to the post counts and see who is more obsessed?

Ha haa!

I get another e mail about a message on here, I hope it has nothing to do with me, but more so with a comment on the subject.

Stand down, all ye defenders of the Chuck. The gates are not being stormed, the battle front is quiet and calm, and the empire on this eve of upheaval, is still holding strong.

Chill obsessed ones, chill.

impeding your rights? telling you what to think?
no, i was suggesting that you might not ask questions since chuck himself has said that he doesn't want his personal life to be a matter of public scrutiny, that the only think he's presenting for public scrutiny is his work. sure he posted it in an audio blog, does that mean you had to listen? as i've said, he alluded to the fact that it was done out of necessity, not personal want. read all over this site, the man is very private with his personal life, and if you care about the man as a writer or even as just another person, respect his wishes. that is what we've been commenting on. if you feel the need to get upset about it, your choice, but if you were a true fan, you would let the man to his own life, and worry only about his works.

please, again, spare me the direction you need to place on my point of view.

"If I were a true fan" etc etc, no, youre not dictating how one should behave with that, are you?

Check this out, it may seem unfamiliar to you, so pay attention:

You think what you like, and I'll think what I like, ok?

Dont let that shock you, all of you, too much now.

I dont think that by saying I would be interested in learning more I am invading the man's privacy. I do think, that the alarm you people are exhibiting is ridiculously fanatic and hilariously uncalled for.

I'm just upset that I keep on being called back to this site by my e mail to find people telling me what I should or shouldnt do or feel instead of basing their comments on their own feelings.

And it doesnt instill too much faith in those with higher post counts too much either, when they cant feel good enough about themselves to respect others opinions, but instead need to dictate behavioral rules to others in order to feel good about themselves at all.

Guess what? In the end, none of this matters. What you want, what I want, even what Chuck wants. According to you he wished for one thing, but did another. And theres nothing you can say to erase that like they erased the audio blog.

Oh, and by the way, it was titled "An important messgae from Chuck", so I tuned in for that supposedly important message. If it was so private, hmm, how'd that happen I wonder? You know what? come to think of it, how elementary is your "you didnt have to listen" arguement in the first place? How old are you I wonder? Impressionable? Means more to you to "respect Chuck's feelings" than to hold an original thought in your head is it?

Typed, get over it. Your words are simply holding no water with me. I'm basing my agruement in fact, and youre basing yours on telling me how You think I should behave.

Oh, wow, I just remembered why I dont bother posting in these threads!

Its the realm of the likes of you.

You can have it.

Its been fun, but next e mail I get with your name in it, Sorry, not bothering withit.

K?

See ya.

apart from PSU no one was really being that rude, they were voicing their opinion too, which you did ask for, it seems like this got angry quickly, which is probably why izen posted in the first place, to avoid that (despite it not working in that way). I'd buy an autobiography of chuck in a heartbeat but I don't think it will ever happen, and I'll just be contented with his works, but I wouldn't decline info if chuck gave it.

jebus christ.
i can't begin to comprehend what is making you so angry, DamienDaniel. this is a forum, where people post their opinion's. i stated that i didn't think Chuck wanted the information about his partner let out. you stated that you thought he didn't mind it coming out. somehow i am a childish jerk for stating my opinion, while you are not.
my suggestion that you not start this post was not in any way meant to be construed as a demand or an order. i have been heavily involved in this topic since it began, i even heard the audioblog about five minutes after it was posted; of course this does not mean that i'm entitled to more of any opinion's, i'm just saying that i spent a lot of the day involved in the discussion's. shortly before you posted this Dennis came on and advised us to wait patiently for more info, and Chuck sent out an audioblog saying that he hoped everybody could relax and back off for a bit. so when i saw your post, i imagined the topic of discussing Chuck's lover becoming another big thread that was deleted.
in response to this you im'ed me via AIM a rude message, and when i found you online some time later you refused to speak about it anymore.
to the other people in here you've been even more rude, say "fuuuuuuck you!", calling someone a dickhead, being patronizing, condescending and rude. the amount of post's has nothing to do with any of this. for example, in one single topic you've managed to sling an infinite amount of insults more than me, because i have never insulted anybody on the board. i could post a thousand topics a day and not gain the respect that you have lost in under ten paragraphs. many who read any of this will not only no longer have any respect for you, they will also never have any desire to listen to what you say or respond to future posts of yours for fear of being insulted and/or caught up in a firey argument they had no intention of being in.
i'm not trying to start an argument, or win a war against you, nor will i ever allude to this situation in the future in an attempt to use it against you, i just felt an explanation of how i'm feeling would be in order, because to tell the truth you're the first person in The Cult forum's to anger me; i've left many other Forum's i enjoyed because of people coming in and starting arguments when there was no need for one. i have no intention of leaving this forum, because the WW is here and that's my main interest.
anyway's..... i know this is probably not going to help, and you'll most likely respond by calling me all sort's of nasty names, although i should let you know that i will not respond to anything else you say in this particular thread.
hopefully we don't ever argue again, though. i don't enjoy making enemies, especially not on my favorite website.

p.s.- i never would've posted a word about this if you hadn't come onto AIM and accused me of being 13 years old and whatever else you said. that was uncalled for.

I wasn't being rude! I was just stating that Chuck never wanted it to come out. He doesn't want us focusing on his "life" he wants us focusing on his writing. His "partner" never wanted to be made a public figure and now it's like he doesn't have a choice...like the audio blog said, we should just back off for a bit. Daniel is the only one here that has attacked anyone and everyone for voicing thier thoughts. That's all I have to say.

Angry is a label people use too freely and without concern to its true meaning to try and discredit whats being said by someone else who happens to speak his or her mind honestly and unabashedly.

Not the first time the word's been thrown in my direction when I write freely and honestly. I speak as passionately and guess what? If youre of the sensitive ilk, duck and cover, duck and cover.

As for the rest of your predictions on who will want to read what and why... I'm sure its as acurate as your assessment of my level of ANGERRRRR, RRRRRAAAAUGHHH, OOH AHHH, I'm so angry, so so angryyyyy, AAAAHHHHHHH!!!! look, I'm foaming at the mouth, see? see?

c'mon. I said I wouldnt come back but jeBus as someone else said up there, You people sure are sensitive.

I didnt post my thoughts to argue with anyone, but I'm not going to keep my mouth shut when peopel take the supposed self rightious moral high ground and they condescend to me what I should do and how I should feel.

Plain and simple, something so private, shoudl have been left so. Now that its out, I'll take more when its available if ever.

Can I move on now?

Love you all.

Take two chill pills and call me in the morning.

You may now move on.

Hugs and Kisses,

J

Because everything upto now is just a story, and everything after now is a story.
p. 75 FC.

Now I seriously think this is enough. This is the limit to everything. We better come to terms with the fact that as far as his personal life doesnt affect his books, we should be having no problems with it. And I bet Chuck hates seeing this being discussed like it were a 'jihad' topic. I was one of the ones who was shocked by the news. I also left a very shocking post, but I eventually calmed down and began to see sense. Let things be. Chuck is a great guy. He's been giving us fantastic works. Now we shouldnt be having a problem until and unless tomorrow he comes up with the news that he is writing a Romance novel like Mills and Boons. Do we all agree to this?

See Chuck trusted and loved us, his fans and finally the cult members of Cp.net. That is the whole reason why, he left an audioblog was put up on Cp.net. He sort of confided in us. He thought we would understand. He didnt want us shocked if someone from the outside would come up and tell us this. The sort of feeling one has in a family. You would be shocked if someone from outside came and told you that your dad is a criminal, that would HURT. Rather than imagine the thing if your dad himself would confront you with the truth. Chuck did something similar. Else maybe like any other person he could have first called a press conference rather than talkin to us abt this first. Dont you think so that if he respects us, we should be respecting him as well. In the case that I put forth as an example, would you respect your dad any further if he tells you that?

Um...yeah. I just heard about all of this like five minutes ago. But anyway.

I can understand the desire to know more about someone like Chuck. While I absolutely love his books, I also want to know more about the person that wrote those books. I'm like this with authors, actors, etc.

This doesn't mean I think I have that thing papparazzi call "A right to know" Of course not. But if he ever decided he wanted to share anything of his personal life to his fans, I'd be only one of many who would be interested.

Maybe I'm in the middle of those who've posted on here, but I can't really decipher what was said it came down to insults and defensiveness way too fast.

Anyway. I'd love to know more about him because I'm interested in who he is personally...but not unless he wanted me to know.

thank you.

Jugal,
I just want to say cheers for coming here and posting that. After reading your post the other night I was kind of like well... I dunno about that Jugal guy...

So anyway. Good on ya.

That's all I had to say.

and typd... pick up the dictionary and look up the word "pry"

then when you realize your own hyper sensitivity in this matter, because yeah, I am SO PRYING by stating exactly what the person above said in simpler, less creative terms arent I???
Then when you blush with embarrassment, realizing how you twisted my words into your need to be the defender of your idol, take that tact you think I should learn so much about, and stick it up your ass. Its gonna be a tight fit judging by your enthusiasm here, but its nothing some lube wont fix. Just Imagine its your hero thanking you for your vehement defense of his virtue. That should loosen you right up.

thanks for wasting time and space on this thread.

Jug, if my dad came out and told me, "son, I didnt want to have to make this public knowledge, but I'm gay/bi (whatever) and I have been with a man I love for 11 yrs"

Guess what, yeah, I would respect his privacy, but I would certainly, definitely, absolutely, positively want to know more!

Guess its a bad example on your part to use Dad as the subject, because if youre going to play it that close to home (which is a little wierd if referring to an author whose work you admire) then youre definitely muddling up the intended response. If its family, OF COURSE you'll want to know more. Yes, respecting their feelings of course, but when they feel comfortable enough, as well they should, if they care to share anything, I'd welcome it.

I said nothing different in my openning statement and I say nothing different now.

For the "defenders of Chucks virtue" to come in here and act as if I had demanded anything, just displays their bullshit need to be someones advocate and their lonely out of whack worship of someone theyve obviously gotten a little too close to themselves.

the words "space monkees" comes to mind.

I think everyone needs to wipe their eyes, take the blinders off and have the balls to think independently here instead fo being so damned preoccupied with the politically correct mandates they think will have them fall in favor with their precious idolized author. I like the mans work too, but I at least can say, I can be true to myself and my own feelings in this matter without losing myself to an attempt at placating him.

The defense rests on the fact that youre all so vehement about defending your imaginary attacks on Chucks privacy, but youre all here looking for juicy tidbits of information too. A veritable feeding frenzy amongst you all. At least I took it to the next level, to a point in time when this is all in the past, its common knowledge and the guy can feel comfortable about sharing more of himself with his fans.

IF he ever cares to, it'd be nice.

Otherwise, whatever.

Got it all? No reason to panic.

It's "Space Monkeys".

Reference to an animal, not a crappy 60's ripoff band.

And don't make assumptions about why people come to "The Cult" boards. I check the Author section of the boards like once a month, past that I [I]live[/I] in the movies and music/general discussion section.

Am I searching desperately for tidbits of information about an author I'm obsessed with?

Fuck no. He's an excellent author, but I don't give a damn. If he doesn't want to say, more power to him. If I was in the same position, I wouldn't want to say. So that's that.

I come here for the bad jokes, that's it. And it'd be foolish to think that I'm an anomaly in that respect.

I stand corrected

Good for you on all the rest.

Caring less and less.

WTF is wrong with you people?????

where and when did I DEMAND TO know more???

dont any of you know how to read?

And just because I feel like f*cking with you now alene, guess what? Yes, because I frivolously feel like knowing more YES, I have the right to know more. OK?

no no, let me not go there, let me just point to the phrases:

"IF he ever cares to, it'd be nice. Otherwise, whatever."

and:

"Plain and simple, something so private, shoudl have been left so. Now that its out, I'll take more when its available if ever."

little things that I said like that, which you were obviously too much in a fever to recognize as contrary to what YOU NEEDED to say. Again, another little lonely defender fo the faith so in need of a battle they take sword to anyone coming down the road, no matter how peacefully they may present themselves.

And please, dont get on me about the word peacefully, I know I express myself in a volatile way sometimes, butthat doesnt excuse those so willing to see what they need to instead of whats being said.

Why is it that when others disagree with you they don't think for themselves?
I know you were attacked, and I don't condone that but again I would say it's been blown out of proportion.

Bada Bing!

Note the low post count, the plain simple straight forward way the individual laid it on the line for you to all TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!

lol.

Theres nothing wrong with curiosity. We make no demands, we only stand here, open arms, ready whenever he is, if ever.

eh?

wha?

meaning... muddled... cannot... understand?

is this like... a bug crawled up your behind or something?

well, just dotn catch a cramp trying to reach up in there to get it, sometimes its better to just squeeze your cheeks together real hard and crush the offending article with your will power.

Swallow.

i thought you said you used fact in your arguments... low or high post count has nothing to do with anything.

yes, you win your arguement. you have single handedly through your disection of my expression changed my life for now and always till the day I die and am turned back into the dust of which I came.

I thank you.

I would repay you by killing you and making your ascent to the next world an easier one, but alas, I know not where you are.

I must live with this debt to you. I must learn how.

ooo wonderful, sarcasm. yes i see now your posts were filled with facts and reasons. ooo look i can do sarcasm too.

I really don't see what the argument is here. It's like nobody is really reading the posts they're responding to. Or reading and responding too fast.

You know that tone in your voice that lets people know what you mean behind your words. (The biggest example is sarcasm...but this isn't about those last 2 posts) See, that doesn't come off right in message boards.

I think you just misunderstood/misread the "demanding" tone of the first post, Alene. I didn't see it as that at all, i can't think of a better way to word it, but it was just a "list" (? bleh, that sounds dumb, but leaving it in) of things he'd like to know. Nothing indicated he [U]had[/U] to know these things.

It's weird when there's an argument on message boards, and when you really look at it, everyone's really on the same side.

*fires bullet into ceiling to quiet crowd*

Daniel. I read. I've read everything that has gone on in this kangaroo motive trial, and all I want to say is this:

you've misspelled "people" in an earlier post.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PsychoKeety [/i]
[B]I really don't see what the argument is here. It's like nobody is really reading the posts they're responding to. Or reading and responding too fast.

You know that tone in your voice that lets people know what you mean behind your words. (The biggest example is sarcasm...but this isn't about those last 2 posts) See, that doesn't come off right in message boards.

I think you just misunderstood/misread the "demanding" tone of the first post, Alene. I didn't see it as that at all, i can't think of a better way to word it, but it was just a "list" (? bleh, that sounds dumb, but leaving it in) of things he'd like to know. Nothing indicated he [U]had[/U] to know these things.

It's weird when there's an argument on message boards, and when you really look at it, everyone's really on the same side. [/B][/QUOTE]
i do agree with this.

true est.

I misspellallotandIalsoreverselettersattheendofsomewords.

This hastodowithsomemisfiringneuronsIsuppose, alongwithaslightglitchinmyhandeyecoordination.

Sometimes Icactchit, sometimesIdont. Oh, andIalsodontadheretoalltheneededapostrophesforsomerebeliousreason?

These aremyquirks.

Space.