Homoerotic

the old adage 'write what ya know' springs to mind

"Write what you know.."

Is Chuck Gay?

Duh, and its only erotic if you find it so.

[QUOTE=morey]Duh, and its only erotic if you find it so.[/QUOTE]

I do find it so... Didn't know he was Gay though; now a lot seems to make sense. Either way, I still love the dude.

[QUOTE=sevenblu]I've read Chuck's novels (all but diary) and as many shorts as I can get my hands on - and I'm always wondering... are all these references to the asshole (literally) homoerotic...

Sticking things in the ass; getting fucked in the ass... etc... The newest short story, Guts, provides great examples...

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Also, Fight Club seems a bit male on male oriented; and Survivor with a protaganist who collects flowers.

Not that I have anything against this; I love Chuck, and I love his books. Only I wonder if these things I see are just me... or if others see them as well? Perhaps Chuck does it on purpose, to give his stories even more edge... I wouldn't doubt it - he does seem to THINK everything through.

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I wonder. Is ass homoerotic? I never thought of ass as homoerotic before. Who would have thought that everytime i fuck a girl's ass I am a homo. Learn somethin' new everyday I guess...

But what about this: [URL=http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=1365]Chuck and the Ladies[/URL]

Ug, I guess I'll have to be a more active member to find out any truth.

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Gay or straight, he's my here.

[QUOTE=sevenblu]But what about this: [URL=http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/community/showthread.php?t=1365]Chuck and the Ladies[/URL]

Ug, I guess I'll have to be a more active member to find out any truth.

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Gay or straight, he's my here.[/QUOTE]

I would love to help, but I still don't know myself. Even though I'm an active 'member' nobody will divulge to me whether he pitches or catches. That's my only concern, I mean, his writing is great regardless of whether he pitches or catches. I just have a morbid fascination with chuck palahniuk's ass...

I've noticed it too, often enough, perhaps Fight Club most of all, his descriptions of the male body can seem a bit... extensive if you will. It goes without saying this has no effect on his awsomenicity.

[QUOTE=Brock Landers]I would love to help, but I still don't know myself. Even though I'm an active 'member' nobody will divulge to me whether he pitches or catches. That's my only concern, I mean, his writing is great regardless of whether he pitches or catches. I just have a morbid fascination with chuck palahniuk's ass...[/QUOTE]

i guarantee he pitches.

who here is a big enough fan to let themselves 'catch' with him ?

i dont know anything about it, but doesnt it seem silly to ask which one he is, couldnt he easily be both?

[QUOTE=lofivinyl]i guarantee he pitches.[/QUOTE]

Why do you guarantee that? I mean, even the manliest of men, even in the ranks of the gay, like to catch. Usually, the more macho, the more likely to not pitch. Look at Ernest Borgnine! And that Hemingway guy!

[QUOTE=Brock Landers]Why do you guarantee that? I mean, even the manliest of men, even in the ranks of the gay, like to catch. Usually, the more macho, the more likely to not pitch. Look at Ernest Borgnine! And that Hemingway guy![/QUOTE]
OMG, borgnine was gay? NO wonder he was in that navy show.

-K

*screams*

I can't take it anymore! Why are these newbies so damn [i]stupid![/i]

Yes, everyone, Chuck has a boyfriend. He likes OMG t3h c0ck!!1111\. No, we don't know whether or not he also likes girls, and he probably won't ever tell us.

Can't we just put this in a FAQ or something? This is like the [i]fourth[/i] active topic about Chuck's sexuality.

[QUOTE=Solle]*screams*

I can't take it anymore! Why are these newbies so damn [i]stupid![/i]

Yes, everyone, Chuck has a boyfriend. He likes OMG t3h c0ck!!1111\. No, we don't know whether or not he also likes girls, and he probably won't ever tell us.

Can't we just put this in a FAQ or something? This is like the [i]fourth[/i] active topic about Chuck's sexuality.[/QUOTE]

As an addition to the above post:
[I]Why[/I] are there so many active posts about his sexuality? I realize that when people come to enjoy something created by someone, an author, a musician, actors/actresses, they want to learn more about that person, details that make them so interesting or entertaining, but why is it that everyone is focusing on the fact that chuck is homosexual? I realize that this paticular thread wasen't started to call attention to that fact, well not specifically, it's just that this is such old news, you'd think that there would be something else interesting to talk about.
And unless you noticed any sort of homoerotic innuendo in any Chuck novels before you realized he was gay, then why bother looking for anything like that now? Is it going to add anything meaningful to the story? I doubt it.

[QUOTE=Manic Oppressive]As an addition to the above post:
[I]Why[/I] are there so many active posts about his sexuality? I realize that when people come to enjoy something created by someone, an author, a musician, actors/actresses, they want to learn more about that person, details that make them so interesting or entertaining, but why is it that everyone is focusing on the fact that chuck is homosexual? I realize that this paticular thread wasen't started to call attention to that fact, well not specifically, it's just that this is such old news, you'd think that there would be something else interesting to talk about.
And unless you noticed any sort of homoerotic innuendo in any Chuck novels before you realized he was gay, then why bother looking for anything like that now? Is it going to add anything meaningful to the story? I doubt it.[/QUOTE]

I dunno, but it makes a huge difference to me that Oscar Wilde was a fag. See, that way I look at his work like a smart-ass fag with a true talent with humor. It makes the social commentary and sexual satire in his work that much more enjoyable. Same with that duded, what's his name, David Sedaris. David Sedaris wouldn't be David Sedaris if he didn't smoke the cumpipe. Not that being gay makes the work any better persay, but it does... make it better, I mean. Same with Chuck. I like reading Fight Club and thinking it's all homoerotic and stuff. Otherwise it's just a bunch of angsty unsexual dudes with anger management issues. Otherwise Tyler Durden is just another god of gaybashing homophobia. It kinda makes me wonder. That story that Chuck tells about the genesis of Fight Club, getting his ass kicked while camping, like for loud music or something, I mean it all makes sense now, and even if he wsn't fagbashed by those pacific northwest homopummeling, um, pygmalion pacifiers, then it still makes a great what if, and if that's the case, which I think it is, then fight club and survivor and choke and all the rest boil down to chuck being gay and being a writer and how he tells his stories without being overtly homosexual. It's like subtrafuge. Like James Whale with Bride of Frankenstein. Like Cat People with no cat monsters, just shadows. It's all a big FUCK YOU to the people who just don't get it... and that's why I like to know, in short...

Solle, newbies are not stupid. I mean yeah, some are some ain't, but it doesn't depend on their newness. And I don't really get your problem, like, you're offended by the many threads or bored or what? Stop complaining about the wee shit.

Manic Oppressive, I think a person's writing can be interpreted much better if you have background knowledge about the person. Especially when sexuality and gender definitions are a main theme in a work. A huge part of Fight Club is about masculinity and the supression thereof nowadays. "I don't think another woman is the answer" - remember?

[QUOTE=Solle]*screams*

I can't take it anymore! Why are these newbies so damn [i]stupid![/i]

Yes, everyone, Chuck has a boyfriend. He likes OMG t3h c0ck!!1111\. No, we don't know whether or not he also likes girls, and he probably won't ever tell us.

Can't we just put this in a FAQ or something? This is like the [i]fourth[/i] active topic about Chuck's sexuality.[/QUOTE]

He said in that one particular Audio Blog that he's been with men and been with women, but spent the last 11 years with a man. Either way, he rules.

[QUOTE=amishbreakfast]He said in that one particular Audio Blog that he's been with men and been with women, but spent the last 11 years with a man. Either way, he rules.[/QUOTE]

I would bet that a majority of gay men have had their penises in pussy before. It's like penises were meant for pussy, and through deviance they become accustomer to ass. It's like how breasts are chestbutts in the evolutionary order of things. Although that would be assumming that someone or something created penises and vaginas for the sole purpose of fitting together during copulation and that would be ludicrous, I mean, masturbation wouldn't be possible otherwise and what about thumbs? I always felt it was silly that Chuck should worry what anyone thinks, although the pacific northwest, especially portland is known for it's gay bashings, so maybe it was a "living thing" as electric light orchestra might say. i think for sure if I was an author, let alone a writer, I'd have to fuck some man ass, because it's much more earthy and depraved and would keep me in touch with my manliness, youknw like John Wayne and Napolean and the whole roman empire thing with Abraham Lincoln and such, like history repeating itself or something...

[QUOTE=wayfaringstranger]i dont know anything about it, but doesnt it seem silly to ask which one he is, couldnt he easily be both?[/QUOTE]

wait a second here... so he pitches AND catches? A veritable one-man cornucopia of copiously capacious cumliciousness? I'd definite buy some Chuck P. gay porn for sure. Somebody should make that. They already made a straight version...

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Aaaand a sequel.

My god. I need to own this.

[QUOTE=Brock Landers]I wonder. Is ass homoerotic? I never thought of ass as homoerotic before. Who would have thought that everytime i fuck a girl's ass I am a homo. Learn somethin' new everyday I guess...[/QUOTE]

ive never been fucked up the ass but guys have played with my ass. that doesnt make them gay, right? i mean when i "play" with a dudes ass- that doesnt make him gay, right? ive heard that chuck was gay. its true? very nice.

[QUOTE=TheUnaffected]ive never been fucked up the ass but guys have played with my ass. that doesnt make them gay, right? i mean when i "play" with a dudes ass- that doesnt make him gay, right? ive heard that chuck was gay. its true? very nice.[/QUOTE]
Playing with a guy's asshole is not gay if you are a female... but if you are a male, then yes, it is gay.

The asshole itself is not gay, but sticking a carrot in it; or being sodimized while being "punished" in the stockades might be considered a bit homoerotic...

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Personally I love it when chick's finger my ass, especially when recieveing oral, but I've never considered that gay because it was always a chick who had her finger in my ass. Although once, I had a girlfriend who wanted to fuck me with a strap-on and I declined... not because I thought it was "gay" but because I'm just not into that...

Although, now that I think about it... getting fucked by a chick with a strap-on penis seems a little gay. Perhaps that's why I declined... or perhaps it was because of the fear of pain... who knows?

[QUOTE=Tuffy the Dump Truck]Aaaand a sequel.

My god. I need to own this.[/QUOTE]

I paid five bucks for it on the porn dvd exchange at my local shop, and I gotta tell ya, it ain't that good as faras porn goes, plus it's got all the same old faces, aurora snow being like the youngest of the bunch and she's already burnt out at 18 or however old she is, she's done like 1,000 movies in one year and frankly I tire of her face and sexual technique. Hell, I only bought it as a fight club fan who HAD to buy it JUST BECAUSE... Fuck it, dude... have you been looking for a dimly-lit batch of 180 minutes or so worth of filth? Sure you are. It's even better if you're epeleptic because you'll have a fit with your dick in your hand when you watch some of these rave-esque scenes. Leather, whips, strap-ons, leashes, voyeurs, hot wax on twats, piercings, christ, there's nothing here you wish you had that you don't already have. It's just plain ass tired porn. It ain't sexy, not sexy like it should be. I still don't know what the fuck it has to do with Fight Club except for the DVD case design... youwould think they would at least have lines like "I want you to fuck me as hard as you can..." or "You life is ending one double-headed 2-foot black rubber dong at a time..." or SOMETHING... there's nothing so burly here that you'll be scared of. Well, maybe SOMETHING, but it's not as hardcore as some fetish movies are. It's worth checking out if you want dirty beatings and fuckings and pissing, but you can have a good porn instead so save your cash unlesss you want the prestige of owning a dvd cover like that.. .maybe get chuck to sign it.. that'd be sorta cool... oh yeah, and beware the fat man with the anal beads...

[QUOTE=sevenblu]Playing with a guy's asshole is not gay if you are a female... but if you are a male, then yes, it is gay.

The asshole itself is not gay, but sticking a carrot in it; or being sodimized while being "punished" in the stockades might be considered a bit homoerotic...

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Personally I love it when chick's finger my ass, especially when recieveing oral, but I've never considered that gay because it was always a chick who had her finger in my ass. Although once, I had a girlfriend who wanted to fuck me with a strap-on and I declined... not because I thought it was "gay" but because I'm just not into that...

Although, now that I think about it... getting fucked by a chick with a strap-on penis seems a little gay. Perhaps that's why I declined... or perhaps it was because of the fear of pain... who knows?[/QUOTE]

I stick my finger up my own ass. I must be gay...

Naah, you are autoerotic... self pleasing. Unless you are performing sex acts with another man, I wouldn't think you are gay.

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By the way... this post was not to discuss Chuck homosexuality. Personally, I could care less. Originally I was wondering whether the homosexual undertones in his works were intentional, but now that I know a bit more about the man - it doesn't seem to matter. Of course there would be homoeroticisms in his work if he is gay... whether they are intentional or not means nothing to me now.

[QUOTE=sevenblu]Naah, you are autoerotic... self pleasing. Unless you are performing sex acts with another man, I wouldn't think you are gay.

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By the way... this post was not to discuss Chuck homosexuality. Personally, I could care less. Originally I was wondering whether the homosexual undertones in his works were intentional, but now that I know a bit more about the man - it doesn't seem to matter. Of course there would be homoeroticisms in his work if he is gay... whether they are intentional or not means nothing to me now.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, well.. the thread IS titled "Homoerotic" and this IS the AUTHOR forum, so one plus one equals butt pirate, if you ask me. Really it's kind of wierd thinking about Chuck Palahniuk in a steam bath or maybe in a Turkish Prison all sweaty and muscled and nude and surrounded by other sweaty nude oiled men with throbbing club-like dongs seeping and creeping to and fro. Same way it's wierd to think of Oscar Wilde fucking or Woody Allen fucking or Nabakov fucking od Doestoevsky fucking. It's like it should be some event, like a real throwdown shindig, a fucking of monumental proportions, but in reality, probably it involves lots of out-of-breathedness and pain and premature ejeculation and stinging cumshot in eyes...

^^ you have a way with words. you are funny. thank you.

Holy shit that's funny... how 'bout the second one?

[QUOTE=amishbreakfast]He said in that one particular Audio Blog that he's been with men and been with women, but spent the last 11 years with a man. Either way, he rules.[/QUOTE]

A link to the blog in question?

It's no longer there per his request, but I will vouch that he did, in fact, say exactly that.

[QUOTE=Brock Landers]Yeah, well.. the thread IS titled "Homoerotic" and this IS the AUTHOR forum, so one plus one equals butt pirate, if you ask me. Really it's kind of wierd thinking about Chuck Palahniuk in a steam bath or maybe in a Turkish Prison all sweaty and muscled and nude and surrounded by other sweaty nude oiled men with throbbing club-like dongs seeping and creeping to and fro. Same way it's wierd to think of Oscar Wilde fucking or Woody Allen fucking or Nabakov fucking od Doestoevsky fucking. It's like it should be some event, like a real throwdown shindig, a fucking of monumental proportions, but in reality, probably it involves lots of out-of-breathedness and pain and premature ejeculation and stinging cumshot in eyes...[/QUOTE]

Let me set the stage if I might..

Nabakov is scribbling notes furiously in the corner of this literatti orgy. Woody is all dissapointment as he can't find an underage asian girl to stick it in, he's doing his nervous nebbishy routine on Amy Tan trying to get her to put her hair into pig tails and bend over. She's having none of it but is watching Virginia Woolfe play with herself.

Meanwhile, Doestoevsky and Wilde are drinking themselves into oblivion with F. Scott, while Fyodor takes bets on which one of the "populist cricle jerk" will come first, Dean Koontz wins but only because he gets really motivated when Michael Crichton points out how he tools his knob just like Stephen King.

Michel Foucault is running the BDSM and Philosphy corner where you have to defend yourself as a social creature, if you can't, you get a giant dildo in the shape of a French baguette as designed by HR Gieger shoved up your ass. I imagine Chuck is probably somewhere here abouts, taking notes, until they strap him onto the wheel of shame and read the "Story of O" to him while old Michel tries to squat out a turd on our noble author.

"The first rule of BDSM is there is no note taking about BDSM!" screams Michel.

Jean Paul-Sartre look up from Simone Debovoirs lap briefly, then plunges back in. Nietzche continues to be abovce it all, but secretly wishes he was still whipping a horse and hadn't contracted syphyllis all those years ago.

Will Shakespeare is bent over, spread cheeked, screaming about how he needs to be violated like the daft twat he is. He's crying, because here his tranny tendencies can be lived out in full. no more dressing young boys in hose and wigs and slipping them the tongue on stage, now Will is free!

Dr. Kinsey has long forgone his detached professionialism and is all leather madman with a riding crop going at a befuddled if not unfettered George Plimpton who is perusing the Paris Review whilst being buggered.

Upon viewing the scene poor Spalding Gray tries to kill himself again in protest, but alas, here, no one can die, and everyone must come.

His eyes are all screams of help as the arms of our frenzied author libido orgy reach out and pull him into the fold....

parkaboy> At last. I can see I can see.

[QUOTE=Brock Landers]I wonder. Is ass homoerotic? I never thought of ass as homoerotic before. Who would have thought that everytime i fuck a girl's ass I am a homo. Learn somethin' new everyday I guess...[/QUOTE]Actually your an ape! Thas how they do it.

[QUOTE=morey]Actually your an ape! Thas how they do it.[/QUOTE]

What kind of ape? Like a panda or a koala or something like one of those kind that Anthony Hopkins grew up with so he was all savage and stuff and growled at Cuba Gooding Jr. from behind his Sigourney Weaver beard? Do they have hairless apes with high testosterone and massive muscular mass, like me? You like sushi? I heard it's like some kind of delicacy in japan where the panda apes are... see, the sushi deluxe has the awakura in it, and everyone knows that's just a homoerotic additive from the felt-tipped reproductive organ of a certain bioluminescent crustacean, but fuck it, man, ya know? Like this is about Chucky P, bra, NOT about chasing Iron Man Wang Chung and his posse of hotwired sex freak orangutan ninjas through conveyor belt sushi bars made of steel-toed black latex jockstraps, can you dig it?

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Those are bears dude, I'm talking about the gorillas withe red asses and the oragutanes these people fuck their women from behind. Chucky P wears a bra?

[QUOTE=morey]Those are bears dude, I'm talking about the gorillas withe red asses and the oragutanes these people fuck their women from behind. Chucky P wears a bra?[/QUOTE]

It's bra, bro! I was in a Samaoan fraternity! The only white dude! But I listed Pacific Islander as my nationality because I was a bra! That's like bro in Samaoan, bra! Bears don't wear bras! Neither do those panda apes! Bras don't even wear bras, bra!

[QUOTE=Brock Landers] Like this is about Chucky P, bra, NOT about chasing Iron Man Wang Chung and his posse of hotwired sex freak orangutan ninjas through conveyor belt sushi bars made of steel-toed black latex jockstraps, can you dig it?
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If we can't chase them, what can we really call our own anymore? You're going to take that away from us too? You're heartless, man.

You think Fight Club is gay? Dude, it's not homoeroticism, it's masturbation. The narrator wanted Tyler because he was Tyler.