Chuck Palahniuk Gay???????
If he were gay
That'd be okay
I mean cus, hey!
I like him anyway.
Because you see
If it were me
I would feel free to say
That I was gay
But I'm not gay
aww, stace. come on, just admit it
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play hard, like it's work to be done.
I could sing to you about my boyfriend who lives in Cananda, who you can't meet because he lives so far away... because, you know, I have one. A boyfriend. He lives in Canada. Did I mention that?
damn. i wish i did.
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play hard, like it's work to be done.
First off this is a thread about Chuck being gay. So where was I in the wrong in making that comment?
...
I'm just a dork trying to explain myself when I should just shut up and move on with my life. =]
Good for you 
This made me smile. You're absolutely right, you just had more energy than I did to type it all out.
Canada is gay.
First off this is a thread about Chuck being gay. So where was I in the wrong in making that comment?
Everyone is making comments on the subject but you single me out. You make it look like that's all I talk about when that's absolutely not the case.
Second if I can't poke fun at myself or just be all out who I am then I don't think I could handle the pain and rejection of normal life. It's hard. I have only recently began embracing myself after twenty long, hard years.
I am at a point where I don't care how people perceive me. I used to, and it hurt a lot to have people say they didn't want to be friends with me anymore because of who I am. I lived in the deep south when this happened and it's not necessarily the most tolerant of areas, seeing as it's the bible belt south.
I've only been saying things about being gay on the appropriate threads that are centered around the subject. Yes I know I've made a thread on the subject but I was a newbie who didn't bother to look any older ones and bump them up.
And yes, it is 2010. So why should you even care if I talk about being gay? I see plenty of people here talking about boobs and other straight things. And as I said I've only mentioned it on the appropriate forums. You just seem to single on them because you are apparently looking and expecting me to say certain things.
Just like when you see tons of normal gay people, at say your favorite coffee shop, you don't really notice them because they aren't acting like the stereotypical homosexual male. But you see one flamer and all of a sudden that's the area gay people hang out at.
It's selective recognition. I'd be lying if I said I didn't do it myself. It's part of our psychology as a society.
I don't parade around the street where I live wearing a rainbow shirt and saying "Hey!" to everyone who passes me by with that God awful inflection that is associated with the people who share my sexual identity.
Even if I did, it's 2010. I'm just another human being expressing myself and am no different than the protesters outside the capital or the guys who paint their bodies certain team colors and show it off at football games.
If you see someone who is out and proud, even in this day in age, there is probably a lot of hurt riding on their shoulders. Going to an extreme is sort of like a defense mechanism where you are sort of pre-weeding out the undesirables in your life by being up front with them.
I will probably get flamed (No pun intended) for this comment but it's how I feel. So there.
*EDIT*
I am not calling anyone out. In fact I think this is the nicest and coolest forum of people I've encountered online in almost five / six years.
I appreciate the honest feedback I get at the workshop and I am in no way discouraging anyone to think a certain way.
To make this shorter, I think you guys are cool. So this post has no malicious intent in it what so ever.
I'm just a dork trying to explain myself when I should just shut up and move on with my life. =]
this dude still posts here?? wow.
Brentinlouis Wrote: What was that rule about being intentionally annoying?
I didn't read it. was it that bad? should I read it? I got a lot of shit too do. It better be worth my time if I read it.
Nate, you NEVER have anything to do.
thanks for sharing.blackhawk tactical pants.
— Spambot
"I could have done worse!" exultantly cried the murderer Lebret, sentenced at Rouen to hard labor for life. — Félix Fénéon
it wasn't bad, it was just like, omg stfu.
Brentinlouis Wrote: What was that rule about being intentionally annoying?
all i HAVE to do is stay black and die!
You feel like you have to comment on someone's post, someone whom you don't even like in the first place, instead of using your energy to say something constructive or just ignoring said person?? wow.
Are you gay or something? I couldn't tell.
Actually I'm asexual. I reproduce by dividing and such.
where's the fun in that.. ? though, less of a headache.
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play hard, like it's work to be done.
What are the ones that have just completely removed themselves from sexuality? I would've sworn that was "asexual" also. Wasn't it Phil that had the one roommate with them doing the tv show about it? It was someone over there in Britainland, i'm sure.
Anyways, I think I've got a case of that, whatever they call it.
Anyways, I think I've got a case of that, whatever they call it.
Yeah, that was me. "Asexual" friend of mine asked Jack to be in a documentary with her about it. Then asexual friend turned out to be a psycho, but hey.
thanks for sharing.blackhawk tactical pants.
— Spambot
"I could have done worse!" exultantly cried the murderer Lebret, sentenced at Rouen to hard labor for life. — Félix Fénéon
Of course she turned out to be psycho. She had no way of getting rid of her pent up emotions!
Of course she turned out to be psycho. She had no way of getting rid of her pent up emotions!
That's what I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE.
thanks for sharing.blackhawk tactical pants.
— Spambot
"I could have done worse!" exultantly cried the murderer Lebret, sentenced at Rouen to hard labor for life. — Félix Fénéon
You feel like you have to comment on someone's post, someone whom you don't even like in the first place, instead of using your energy to say something constructive or just ignoring said person?? wow.
i was just surprised you're still here.
Brentinlouis Wrote: What was that rule about being intentionally annoying?
Anyways, I think I've got a case of that, whatever they call it.
Yeah, that was me. "Asexual" friend of mine asked Jack to be in a documentary with her about it. Then asexual friend turned out to be a psycho, but hey.
hmmm, this doesn't bode well for me...
Well, this was mildly amusing.
Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Wow, lot of heated energy going on in this thread...
...I'm gonna go read some homo books, try and calm down after getting all excited reading this.
...and yet still the early bird gets the worm
Everything about you defines who you are as a writer.
I don't think there are many straight authors out there who'd have a character choke to death on a severed penis...
Everything about you defines who you are as a writer.
I don't think there are many straight authors out there who'd have a character choke to death on a severed penis...
Nope. You're wrong. You seem to be under the impression that the author's personality HAS to be superimposed into the writing itself. Or that the author's sexuality is too influential on their work to hide.
If you're going to make a blanket statement like that, at least ATTEMPT to back up the claim with some supporting evidence.
It's like how gay people shouldn't play straight people like that one guy said in that one magazine I'm too tired to look up. You know the one.
Anyone who's looking to add some good shock value could have a character choke to death on a severed penis.
Everything about you defines who you are as a writer.
I don't think there are many straight authors out there who'd have a character choke to death on a severed penis...
This isn't even remotely true. I never thought Chuck was gay until the whole bruhaha (however you spell it) on the site a few years ago. I never even considered it, really, because it didn't make a difference. When I found out, I was actually kind of disappointed but only because I knew there going to be a zillion people out there going, "Ooooh. I totally knew. It makes sense now. Fight Club is so homoerotic. Etc..." Once people find something out about an author's personal life, they push that miniscule thing into his/her work and try to make it ABOUT that one thing. No one can just be a fucking great writer these days. So instead of just being a great author, he's boiled down to a "Gay Author" and everything that goes along with it.
yeah, but look what happens to the early worm!
Well, he did just write a pretty gay book, sooooo...
I have nothing to add to this.
Footnote: I thought we were friends! You hate me! *runs off to paint nails*
I don't see what admiring or being jealous of a male body would have anything to do with sexual, homo or otherwise. It's a work of art, like, admiring or being envious of Michelangleo's David. Unless you're also wanting to stick your wiener in it, it's not sexual.
Chuck Palahniuk Gay???????
Also, do you think when this guy made this thread he was contemplating how many question marks to put in there? Like, was he thinking 4 ?'s just didn't really convey his shock and awe. but putting 8 or 9 of them would have been way too much? and he finally settled on 7 as the perfect amount of question marks?
Just me mixing jokes from different threads. Where dudes want to stick their weiners is of no concern to me.
i didn't think it was a secret at all, that chuck was gay...
-a beautiful lie
Just me mixing jokes from different threads. Where dudes want to stick their weiners is of no concern to me.
just let the pedophiles do whatever they want, huh? I see how you are now!
Just me mixing jokes from different threads. Where dudes want to consentingly stick their weiners is of no concern to me.
just let the pedophiles do whatever they want, huh? I see how you are now!
Theeerrre we go!
What I'm saying is that everything about you and the person you are influences your writing, acting, art, everything.
The things you went through as a child have just as much of an effect on you artistically as the person who you talked to last night in the bar.
Saying that you can make art without putting yourself into it is just plain stupid. While I'm not saying that you write what you know I am just saying that every experience you've had, every person you've met, and every book, movie, photograph you've seen or read has helped shape you into the person you currently are.
It's the butterfly effect in a sense.
As I said I'm not saying that's a write what you know sort of thing, but your personality and the way you view things or the way you BELIEVE other people view things will be present in your work.
Art is your life filtered through a medium of creativity.
Just like a hand writing analyst can tell you what kind of person you are by looking at your hand writing. You can tell somebody has a troubled mind by looking at their work. Or you can see something beautiful and know that this person must have something special inside them that may not be present when you meet them but you know it's there.
You can't tell me that you can truly and honestly make something valid without first at least knowing what it's like to be in that mind set. Even if you read something to learn about what it is your creating that's still experiencing it in some form.
That being said I'm not saying that you have to be a serial killer to write about one but the information you've gathered and the people you've spoken to on the subject have shaped your view on what it is your depicting.
You are totally your art.
It's a snobby hipster, cooler than thou attitude that tries to say other wise and it's simply not true. People want to take sole credit for their ideas but the fact of the matter is that it takes a village to raise a child.
When I said that no one but a gay man could have written a line about a man choking on a dick I did go too far and I apologize. Anyone who is willing to go to that length to shock someone can do so. But the fact is that Chuck was influenced by something in some way to write the way he does. He's not shy in saying that he draws inspiration from other people and who knows? It could of been one of those weird discussions he says he gets into with strangers that put the seed in his mind.
I'll say it again. You are your art. Deal with it because it's true.
I doubt Kurt Cobain could of emoted such pain without at least feeling some of it.
William S. Burroughs depicts gay sex and drug use with such validity because he's been through it.
Stephen King may be the nicest and most sane person in the room but the fact of the matter is that he has some pretty wicked demons he battles via his writing.
Your sexuality does make a difference in what you do just like your preference of car will somehow make it into your stories. Your work is shaped by who you are.
tl;dr
Bambi Gay???????? (I think 8 is enough)
Well I know karate, Voodoo too; I'm gonna make myself available to you
I don't need no make up; I got real scars
I got hair on my chest; I look good without a shirt
ever damn time.
I can't believe people still think Chuck is gay...
We created that rumor just to see if people would believe that the guy who wrote Fight Club was a homo.
I'm sorry I'm outting us. Somebody had to do it eventually...
We created that rumor just to see if people would believe that the guy who wrote Fight Club was a homo.
I'm sorry I'm outting us. Somebody had to do it eventually...
Dare I say, "project mayhem"? Oh, you guys!
The things you went through as a child have just as much of an effect on you artistically as the person who you talked to last night in the bar.
Saying that you can make art without putting yourself into it is just plain stupid. While I'm not saying that you write what you know I am just saying that every experience you've had, every person you've met, and every book, movie, photograph you've seen or read has helped shape you into the person you currently are.
It's the butterfly effect in a sense.
As I said I'm not saying that's a write what you know sort of thing, but your personality and the way you view things or the way you BELIEVE other people view things will be present in your work.
Art is your life filtered through a medium of creativity.
Just like a hand writing analyst can tell you what kind of person you are by looking at your hand writing. You can tell somebody has a troubled mind by looking at their work. Or you can see something beautiful and know that this person must have something special inside them that may not be present when you meet them but you know it's there.
You can't tell me that you can truly and honestly make something valid without first at least knowing what it's like to be in that mind set. Even if you read something to learn about what it is your creating that's still experiencing it in some form.
That being said I'm not saying that you have to be a serial killer to write about one but the information you've gathered and the people you've spoken to on the subject have shaped your view on what it is your depicting.
You are totally your art.
It's a snobby hipster, cooler than thou attitude that tries to say other wise and it's simply not true. People want to take sole credit for their ideas but the fact of the matter is that it takes a village to raise a child.
When I said that no one but a gay man could have written a line about a man choking on a dick I did go too far and I apologize. Anyone who is willing to go to that length to shock someone can do so. But the fact is that Chuck was influenced by something in some way to write the way he does. He's not shy in saying that he draws inspiration from other people and who knows? It could of been one of those weird discussions he says he gets into with strangers that put the seed in his mind.
I'll say it again. You are your art. Deal with it because it's true.
I doubt Kurt Cobain could of emoted such pain without at least feeling some of it.
William S. Burroughs depicts gay sex and drug use with such validity because he's been through it.
Stephen King may be the nicest and most sane person in the room but the fact of the matter is that he has some pretty wicked demons he battles via his writing.
Your sexuality does make a difference in what you do just like your preference of car will somehow make it into your stories. Your work is shaped by who you are.
this truly made me ill to read.
Brentinlouis Wrote: What was that rule about being intentionally annoying?
*Could HAVE been, not could OF been, damnit.
i was totally gonna point that out but then i figured the whole thing was a train wreck anyway.
Brentinlouis Wrote: What was that rule about being intentionally annoying?
First off this is a thread about Chuck being gay. So where was I in the wrong in making that comment?
Everyone is making comments on the subject but you single me out. You make it look like that's all I talk about when that's absolutely not the case.
Second if I can't poke fun at myself or just be all out who I am then I don't think I could handle the pain and rejection of normal life. It's hard. I have only recently began embracing myself after twenty long, hard years.
I am at a point where I don't care how people perceive me. I used to, and it hurt a lot to have people say they didn't want to be friends with me anymore because of who I am. I lived in the deep south when this happened and it's not necessarily the most tolerant of areas, seeing as it's the bible belt south.
I've only been saying things about being gay on the appropriate threads that are centered around the subject. Yes I know I've made a thread on the subject but I was a newbie who didn't bother to look any older ones and bump them up.
And yes, it is 2010. So why should you even care if I talk about being gay? I see plenty of people here talking about boobs and other straight things. And as I said I've only mentioned it on the appropriate forums. You just seem to single on them because you are apparently looking and expecting me to say certain things.
Just like when you see tons of normal gay people, at say your favorite coffee shop, you don't really notice them because they aren't acting like the stereotypical homosexual male. But you see one flamer and all of a sudden that's the area gay people hang out at.
It's selective recognition. I'd be lying if I said I didn't do it myself. It's part of our psychology as a society.
I don't parade around the street where I live wearing a rainbow shirt and saying "Hey!" to everyone who passes me by with that God awful inflection that is associated with the people who share my sexual identity.
Even if I did, it's 2010. I'm just another human being expressing myself and am no different than the protesters outside the capital or the guys who paint their bodies certain team colors and show it off at football games.
If you see someone who is out and proud, even in this day in age, there is probably a lot of hurt riding on their shoulders. Going to an extreme is sort of like a defense mechanism where you are sort of pre-weeding out the undesirables in your life by being up front with them.
I will probably get flamed (No pun intended) for this comment but it's how I feel. So there.
*EDIT*
I am not calling anyone out. In fact I think this is the nicest and coolest forum of people I've encountered online in almost five / six years.
I appreciate the honest feedback I get at the workshop and I am in no way discouraging anyone to think a certain way.
To make this shorter, I think you guys are cool. So this post has no malicious intent in it what so ever.
I'm just a dork trying to explain myself when I should just shut up and move on with my life.